Where is the limit of support for Trump?…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate and am baffled by the blind support for Trump. Setting aside Jan 6 riots and all things previous and just focusing on the most recent actions:

1. Clearly trying to slow pedal/stall the release of the Epstein files.

2. Unilateral Iran war that was likely undertaken because of bribes from the Saudi. This will be a huge quagmire that limits our ability to project force elsewhere in the world.

3. Erratic and baffling handling of tarrifs has destabilized the economy and alienated trade partners.

4. Damaging the NATO alliance.

Where does support for him end? When do people in the Republican party stand up and demand better?

The fall of the Republican party started half a century ago when the far right wing/racist elements realized that the only chance at power in the future was minority rule through the Senate and the Supreme Court. Since that time the far right wing has worked to make party loyalty a matter of identity through various means - making abortion a religious issue and a substitute for the issue of segregation is one. Another is the rise of right wing media that labels anyone who is not a Republican an enemy. Rush Limbaugh was probably the best example of this (may he rest in the hell he deserves), but you can barely swing a dead cat these days and not hit a right wing podcaster type.

There are people who still think there's a Republican party that might swing back to decency, but that party is long gone.

I certainly agree your point on the harms of political bias in media but otherwise, our major party nominees as recently as 2008 and 2012 included McCain, Romney, and Obama. Regardless of one's political leanings, we should all agree that those three were decent and very capable people with good intentions.

The GOP has obviously lost credibility since 2012 but there would be no pathway to a GOP nomination for McCain and Romney if political extremists had a controlling voice for as long as you claim. Money in politics is by far our most problematic long term issue in our political system and much more so than the small minority of political extremists.

Of course the extremists didn't have a controlling voice for all that time - far from it. The point is that they were trounced in '64 with Goldwater and the John Birchers, but they never went away. They went underground, but kept at it for 50 years until they are the controlling voice.

All the more reason to bury them for good this time. Tear down the orchards and salt the earth.

[Anonymous]

Every one who voted for trump fights his war.

[Anonymous]

I don't think there is a limit for current Trump supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think there is a limit for current Trump supporters.

Any amount of liberal BS is totally tolerable at this point .

[Anonymous]

I will be sad when it ends... I have a side hustle that made me $43k already putting MAGA catchphrases and images on t-shirts, bandanas, and hats. When something catches on they spend a lot of money and send their friends/family to buy more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For about 35% of the population, he's their God-King. Nothing he does will cause them to stop backing him.

The 35% know that Trump is the best option. A Democrat would be far worse. It is a choice between Churchill (Trump) or a gutless appeaser like Neville Chamberlain. There will be no peace in our time until the terrorist source in Iran is confronted and defanged.

There was peace about two weeks ago. Then the moron got bored.

Funny how we didn't get nuked while Biden was president, huh?

Churchill=Trump really?

At least Churchill had allies--including the governments in exile who went to the UK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a moderate and am baffled by the blind support for Trump. Setting aside Jan 6 riots and all things previous and just focusing on the most recent actions:

1. Clearly trying to slow pedal/stall the release of the Epstein files.

2. Unilateral Iran war that was likely undertaken because of bribes from the Saudi. This will be a huge quagmire that limits our ability to project force elsewhere in the world.

3. Erratic and baffling handling of tarrifs has destabilized the economy and alienated trade partners.

4. Damaging the NATO alliance.

Where does support for him end? When do people in the Republican party stand up and demand better?

The fall of the Republican party started half a century ago when the far right wing/racist elements realized that the only chance at power in the future was minority rule through the Senate and the Supreme Court. Since that time the far right wing has worked to make party loyalty a matter of identity through various means - making abortion a religious issue and a substitute for the issue of segregation is one. Another is the rise of right wing media that labels anyone who is not a Republican an enemy. Rush Limbaugh was probably the best example of this (may he rest in the hell he deserves), but you can barely swing a dead cat these days and not hit a right wing podcaster type.

There are people who still think there's a Republican party that might swing back to decency, but that party is long gone.

I certainly agree your point on the harms of political bias in media but otherwise, our major party nominees as recently as 2008 and 2012 included McCain, Romney, and Obama. Regardless of one's political leanings, we should all agree that those three were decent and very capable people with good intentions.

The GOP has obviously lost credibility since 2012 but there would be no pathway to a GOP nomination for McCain and Romney if political extremists had a controlling voice for as long as you claim. Money in politics is by far our most problematic long term issue in our political system and much more so than the small minority of political extremists.

Of course the extremists didn't have a controlling voice for all that time - far from it. The point is that they were trounced in '64 with Goldwater and the John Birchers, but they never went away. They went underground, but kept at it for 50 years until they are the controlling voice.

All the more reason to bury them for good this time. Tear down the orchards and salt the earth.

I think it all comes down to the 1876 election. We're still bearing the rotten fruit.

[Anonymous]

It's Foxnews brainwashing. My mother is a devoted viewer. I can hardly talk to her anymore with all the blatantly wrong talking points she spouts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you decide that God sent him, you don’t question anything.

I'm seeing this with my evangelical parents. When I ask my mom how they can still support Trump she says, "I don't like what he says but I like what he's doing." I think they feel he's been sent by God to protect Christians and make the US a Christian nation again. While she hasn't said it, I think they see him hastening the apocalypse/second coming. We don't really discuss politics much these days, as I've realized there is no getting through to them.

I heard this stated outloud on a commercial on a radio station looking for money for an organization called International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. It repeatedly said you can participate in fulfilling biblical prophecy and separately mentioned end times.

[Anonymous]

I guess there is a limit and it has been passed.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the US needs to shift to a parlimentary system. Because this failed presidency has 3 more years as there is no possibility of a 'no confidence" vote and the GOP sits on their hands while our country is dismanlted domestically and internationally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will be sad when it ends... I have a side hustle that made me $43k already putting MAGA catchphrases and images on t-shirts, bandanas, and hats. When something catches on they spend a lot of money and send their friends/family to buy more.

Gross. I wouldn't brag about spreading MAGA propaganda, even if you've always voted blue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess there is a limit and it has been passed.

It is almost funny but it's really not. That idiot and the rest of them like her gave power to this crook and it is destroying the future for our families.

[Anonymous]

Here’s some actual data:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s some actual data:

The problem with this info is that we don’t know whether the group that currently identifies as MAGA is bigger or smaller than a year or two ago. And what percentage of the population does this group represent.

100% of the people in my family virulently oppose the Iran War, but it’s statistically meaningless as a barometer for the United States as a whole.