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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a moderate and am baffled by the blind support for Trump. Setting aside Jan 6 riots and all things previous and just focusing on the most recent actions:

1. Clearly trying to slow pedal/stall the release of the Epstein files.

2. Unilateral Iran war that was likely undertaken because of bribes from the Saudi. This will be a huge quagmire that limits our ability to project force elsewhere in the world.

3. Erratic and baffling handling of tarrifs has destabilized the economy and alienated trade partners.

4. Damaging the NATO alliance.

Where does support for him end? When do people in the Republican party stand up and demand better? 
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The fall of the Republican party started half a century ago when the far right wing/racist elements realized that the only chance at power in the future was minority rule through the Senate and the Supreme Court. Since that time the far right wing has worked to make party loyalty a matter of identity through various means - making abortion a religious issue and a substitute for the issue of segregation is one. Another is the rise of right wing media that labels anyone who is not a Republican an enemy. Rush Limbaugh was probably the best example of this (may he rest in the hell he deserves), but you can barely swing a dead cat these days and not hit a right wing podcaster type.

There are people who still think there's a Republican party that might swing back to decency, but that party is long gone. [/quote]

I certainly agree your point on the harms of political bias in media but otherwise, our major party nominees as recently as 2008 and 2012 included McCain, Romney, and Obama. Regardless of one's political leanings, we should all agree that those three were decent and very capable people with good intentions.

The GOP has obviously lost credibility since 2012 but there would be no pathway to a GOP nomination for McCain and Romney if political extremists had a controlling voice for as long as you claim. Money in politics is by far our  most problematic long term issue in our political system and much more so than the small minority of political extremists. [/quote]

Of course the extremists didn't have a controlling voice for all that time - far from it. The point is that they were trounced in '64 with Goldwater and the John Birchers, but they never went away. They went underground, but kept at it for 50 years until they are the controlling voice. [/quote]

All the more reason to bury them for good this time. Tear down the orchards and salt the earth. [/quote]

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