IS DCI dropping IB

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the original. discussion….

Offering more AP courses to everyone is a good thing.

Offering more rigorous AP courses earlier to kids who can do the work and handle the rigor is also a good thing.

No. DCI is an IB school. The move away from IB to more corporate charter mindset and AP classes is happening WITHOUT the knowledge and buy in of most staff and parents. It's being done stealth, and it is not heading in a successful direction.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

BTW I just asked AI and 8 schools out of 25 in MCPS offers both IB and AP of which RM is one of them. Another one is Bethesda/Chevy Chase

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Different poster. What are you smoking in asking this question, PP? The answer is a no-brainer.

Most IB World Schools in the DMV, and the country, are run as school-within-a-school programs in high schools offering both AP and IBD classes and exams. That's true in IBD programs in Fairfax, Fall's Church City's Meridian, Arlington's Washington-Liberty, MoCo's Bethesda Chevy Chase, Richard Montgomery etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the original. discussion….

Offering more AP courses to everyone is a good thing.

Offering more rigorous AP courses earlier to kids who can do the work and handle the rigor is also a good thing.

No. DCI is an IB school. The move away from IB to more corporate charter mindset and AP classes is happening WITHOUT the knowledge and buy in of most staff and parents. It's being done stealth, and it is not heading in a successful direction.

Strongly disagree. It's a very good thing for an IB World School to offer AP classes and exams to help students build up a portfolio of strong standardized test scores before applying to college. The timing of IBD exams, in June of senior year, is a real problem in this country. In Europe, IBD students get conditional offers of admission to university predicated on their clearing an admissions bar once their standardized tests scores come out in the summer after their final year of secondary school. Not so in the US although kids almost always need decent standardized test scores to crack top colleges. The "predicted" IB scores teachers at IB schools dole out to students in the fall of senior year aren't necessarily going to convince colleges to admit kids. It's best to double up on AP exams in subjects where this is possible, mainly sciences and languages.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

Also Washington liberty in Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

lol. This just goes to show the very low standards we have in DC. Yes the strong suburban schools with IB also have AP.

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Anonymous wrote:DCI boosters need to calm down. We are all truly glad for you that your gamble on an immersion feeder paid off and you have a good option. That's great for the whole city. However that doesn't mean that DCI is the greatest school in the city and the world.

There is not a single post on this entire thread where anyone from DCI even remotely suggests that. There's one poster whose biggest beef appears to be the alleged decline with Walls' SAT scores, but who gives a shit about that.

Our kid is at DCI and applied to Walls. We're not idiots and we recognize that by any objective measure Walls is the best public school in the city. Our kid didn't even get an interview despite having strong numbers and (we think) references. We were disappointed but not surprised, and we've moved on. We're grateful we have DCI. We consider it to be on par with JR and would have happily sent our kid there if we were in zone. Most kids don't need "the best." Good is good enough.

By any objective measure walls is definitely not the best public school in the city. It used to be. But now they don’t even use objective criteria like the CAPE for admission. You’re better off gaming the system at a mediocre dcps, taking the easiest courses to get an interview. And the courses offered are mediocre. Just a few AP classes, nothing exceptional at all. You’re better off trying for a good charter like basis or dci or even Latin to stand out. Honestly we should all move to Maryland.

I mean... by any objective measure Walls is the best public school in the city. Here is the post that people are claiming doesn't exist. The one saying you should send your kid to DCI over Walls. It exists. It's silly.

I wouldn’t send my kid to walls because they just don’t have the sports and courses my kid wants. There is nothing silly about it. If you want to go to the best school- Maryland? Private?

Mediocre course offerings, extra curricular activities, and too many weak students coming unprepared from bad middle schools. I don’t know why you insist it’s the best. Maybe for your kid?

Yea, well, they're kicking every other school's a$$ on college admissions, including DCI, so they must be doing something right.

What Walls “does right” is aggregate kids who would do well anywhere, and exclude kids who would struggle anywhere. It’s not clear that Walls itself adds any value over a school like DCI or JR (though obviously some kids like it, which is nice for them).

When Walls passes over a high performing kid, which they do fairly often these days, it’s Walls’s loss. The kid’s test scores and potential remain sky-high.

You can say this about every single selective school, public or private, in the country.

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DCI is a fine option for students who can self manage their learning.

Current leadership doesn't have previous IB experience. I guess we'll see if they prioritize it for future leadership hires.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

BTW I just asked AI and 8 schools out of 25 in MCPS offers both IB and AP of which RM is one of them. Another one is Bethesda/Chevy Chase

But DCI is a 100% IB school. IB isn't a track that you can choose or opt into/out of.

So of the 8 schools in MCPS that offer both, does that mean students in the IB program are taking AP classes too? Or is it about whether you're in the IB track or not, and only students not in the IB track take AP classes? And if any have IB students doing AP classes, please name the schools. I'd love to do more research into how and why they do it that way, which from my understanding is not aligned with the actual IB standards or model.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

lol. This just goes to show the very low standards we have in DC. Yes the strong suburban schools with IB also have AP.

Please name the strong suburban DMV high schools that are 100% IB, like the entire curriculum is IB, and that also offers AP classes. As opposed to schools with IB tracks and non-IB tracks.

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

BTW I just asked AI and 8 schools out of 25 in MCPS offers both IB and AP of which RM is one of them. Another one is Bethesda/Chevy Chase

But DCI is a 100% IB school. IB isn't a track that you can choose or opt into/out of.

So of the 8 schools in MCPS that offer both, does that mean students in the IB program are taking AP classes too? Or is it about whether you're in the IB track or not, and only students not in the IB track take AP classes? And if any have IB students doing AP classes, please name the schools. I'd love to do more research into how and why they do it that way, which from my understanding is not aligned with the actual IB standards or model.

You could start by studying the RMIB course bulletin.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/26-27-ib-course-handbook.pdf?usp=sharing
Descriptions of the ways AP courses and exams are woven into the IB program appear throughout the handbook. There’s an overview on page 5 showing which AP courses are standard for IB-track students during 9th and 10th grade. The graphic on page 18 shows how AP math courses are integrated into the IB math sequence. Also, many course descriptions note that students in IB courses are prepared for AP exams. Notably, juniors taking IB Lang & Lit take the AP Lang exam (see course description p. 11).

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

BTW I just asked AI and 8 schools out of 25 in MCPS offers both IB and AP of which RM is one of them. Another one is Bethesda/Chevy Chase

But DCI is a 100% IB school. IB isn't a track that you can choose or opt into/out of.

So of the 8 schools in MCPS that offer both, does that mean students in the IB program are taking AP classes too? Or is it about whether you're in the IB track or not, and only students not in the IB track take AP classes? And if any have IB students doing AP classes, please name the schools. I'd love to do more research into how and why they do it that way, which from my understanding is not aligned with the actual IB standards or model.

You could start by studying the RMIB course bulletin.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/26-27-ib-course-handbook.pdf?usp=sharing
Descriptions of the ways AP courses and exams are woven into the IB program appear throughout the handbook. There’s an overview on page 5 showing which AP courses are standard for IB-track students during 9th and 10th grade. The graphic on page 18 shows how AP math courses are integrated into the IB math sequence. Also, many course descriptions note that students in IB courses are prepared for AP exams. Notably, juniors taking IB Lang & Lit take the AP Lang exam (see course description p. 11).

I will look at it when I have time (tomorrow), but one basic question: the schools with "the IB program", is the entire curriculum for all students in the school IB? Or is IB a track and some IB students as you say are taking AP classes in 9th & 10th grade, but are the entire schools IB or it's a track and some of each school is also not IB?

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

BTW I just asked AI and 8 schools out of 25 in MCPS offers both IB and AP of which RM is one of them. Another one is Bethesda/Chevy Chase

But DCI is a 100% IB school. IB isn't a track that you can choose or opt into/out of.

So of the 8 schools in MCPS that offer both, does that mean students in the IB program are taking AP classes too? Or is it about whether you're in the IB track or not, and only students not in the IB track take AP classes? And if any have IB students doing AP classes, please name the schools. I'd love to do more research into how and why they do it that way, which from my understanding is not aligned with the actual IB standards or model.

You could start by studying the RMIB course bulletin.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/26-27-ib-course-handbook.pdf?usp=sharing
Descriptions of the ways AP courses and exams are woven into the IB program appear throughout the handbook. There’s an overview on page 5 showing which AP courses are standard for IB-track students during 9th and 10th grade. The graphic on page 18 shows how AP math courses are integrated into the IB math sequence. Also, many course descriptions note that students in IB courses are prepared for AP exams. Notably, juniors taking IB Lang & Lit take the AP Lang exam (see course description p. 11).

Actually I took a quick look at the site and the Richard Montgomery School's IB Programme, and just as I predicted, IB is a PROGRAM at Richard Montgomery. The entire school is not IB. It's a program that some students are in, which is entirely different from DCI's model, which is 100% of students are IB. Some pursue an IB Diploma, the rest an IB Certificate (which is also a high school diploma but has less strict/hard IB requirements).

So again, I'm asking which specific DMV high schools are 100% IB and also have some IB students doing AP classes? If there are any such schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Many IB schools offer AP courses for the strongest students to take as freshmen/sophomores or those who don’t want to pursue an IB diploma.

What a load of BS - what reputable officially IB high schools offer AP classes? Name some or you're just making this up.

Yes some schools offer both of which one is right in our backyard with Richard Montgomery which is a very good school.

BTW I just asked AI and 8 schools out of 25 in MCPS offers both IB and AP of which RM is one of them. Another one is Bethesda/Chevy Chase

But DCI is a 100% IB school. IB isn't a track that you can choose or opt into/out of.

So of the 8 schools in MCPS that offer both, does that mean students in the IB program are taking AP classes too? Or is it about whether you're in the IB track or not, and only students not in the IB track take AP classes? And if any have IB students doing AP classes, please name the schools. I'd love to do more research into how and why they do it that way, which from my understanding is not aligned with the actual IB standards or model.

You could start by studying the RMIB course bulletin.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/791d9e3ecf514dffa7e5f8b8cffd2a27/26-27-ib-course-handbook.pdf?usp=sharing
Descriptions of the ways AP courses and exams are woven into the IB program appear throughout the handbook. There’s an overview on page 5 showing which AP courses are standard for IB-track students during 9th and 10th grade. The graphic on page 18 shows how AP math courses are integrated into the IB math sequence. Also, many course descriptions note that students in IB courses are prepared for AP exams. Notably, juniors taking IB Lang & Lit take the AP Lang exam (see course description p. 11).

Actually I took a quick look at the site and the Richard Montgomery School's IB Programme, and just as I predicted, IB is a PROGRAM at Richard Montgomery. The entire school is not IB. It's a program that some students are in, which is entirely different from DCI's model, which is 100% of students are IB. Some pursue an IB Diploma, the rest an IB Certificate (which is also a high school diploma but has less strict/hard IB requirements).

So again, I'm asking which specific DMV high schools are 100% IB and also have some IB students doing AP classes? If there are any such schools?

Look, if you want to be a Puritan about IB schools, be my guest. Protest on the lawn in front of the IBO on Wisconsin telling them to shut down heretical programs that sully themselves through contact with AP courses and exams. I look forward to the spectacle. But as a parent, it’s obvious to me that mixed systems like RMIB are tremendously successful at educating students and helping them gain admission to excellent American colleges. I see no reason to sign up for your crusade.