Team Taught Classes

[Anonymous]

The wild part is my gen ed high school math classes already average 3-4 IEPs and 5-6 504s per class of 30 kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The wild part is my gen ed high school math classes already average 3-4 IEPs and 5-6 504s per class of 30 kids.

If its a team-taught class then it low-Team taught class have about 8-10 IEP kids and and 504 kids

[Anonymous]

This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

[Anonymous]

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

[Anonymous]

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

Exactly. Didn’t say that at all. One of my own kids has a 504. They do not disrupt other kids’ learning. But the ones who do disrupt others seem to be allowed to do this on the name of inclusion. And the other kids are asked to just deal with it. The disruptive kids are handled with kid gloves while others without IEPs get yelled at for doing much less.

If a kid with an IEP is prone to outbursts and disruptive behavior, their inclusion comes at the expense of other children’s education.

[Anonymous]

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a class kids who constantly talk/interrupt. This is AAP. Nothing is done. I sometimes wish there were cameras in classrooms because many parents would be SHOCKED at how their kids behave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

It's cute that you think that. --a teacher

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

Yes, you all are saying that by disagreeing with this move towards TT classes.

Kids who are disruptors need to be delt with appropriately but it doesn't mean they need to be segregated away. Get over yourselves.

[Anonymous]

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

Yes, you all are saying that by disagreeing with this move towards TT classes.

Kids who are disruptors need to be delt with appropriately but it doesn't mean they need to be segregated away. Get over yourselves.

I teach team taught, and the issue it not usually behavior. It's usually academics. We are supposed to teach reading and writing to a class of 30, with half being at a first grade level and not understanding basic English, and half being at regular level. It's not possible to do that. Either the ESOL kids get left behind or the other kids are bored to death. Inclusion isn't just spec ed - it's everything. Sometimes everything in the same room.

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

Yes, you all are saying that by disagreeing with this move towards TT classes.

Kids who are disruptors need to be delt with appropriately but it doesn't mean they need to be segregated away. Get over yourselves.

So they should be allowed to hinder others' learning? What way would you deal with them? Because right now they are coddled in a lot of schools.

[Anonymous]

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

Exactly. Didn’t say that at all. One of my own kids has a 504. They do not disrupt other kids’ learning. But the ones who do disrupt others seem to be allowed to do this on the name of inclusion. And the other kids are asked to just deal with it. The disruptive kids are handled with kid gloves while others without IEPs get yelled at for doing much less.

If a kid with an IEP is prone to outbursts and disruptive behavior, their inclusion comes at the expense of other children’s education.

+1 I am in TT classrooms all day, and this is exactly the case. Kids who are disruptive should be removed (not just sent to the hallway or referred to admin for a talk). Until there are consequences for the most disruptive kids, the other students’ learning will be adversely impacted. It’s a circus in some of these classrooms, with kids feeding off of each other, and it’s a revolving door of hall passes, kids who get to see their counselor for any or no reason at all, kids who need the aforementioned kid gloves, admin coming in to observe, etc. Not to mention trying to actually TEACH and move forward with the other kids. We need a complete overhaul of our education system!

[Anonymous]

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This is disheartening to hear. My sixth grader is currently in gen Ed and for a couple of their core subjects, the kids with IEPs who need extra supports are in the class. One of them is constantly interrupting my child. The teachers move this kid around to different tables because all the kids complain that they are being interrupted. And when my own child complains to the teacher, they tell my child to just try to ignore the kid. I’m sure my child does not have the full picture, but according to them, the teacher who helps these kids just gives them the answers and then they are done before everyone else. The same kid who interrupts my child all the time then comes and makes fun of them for not being finished already. Was really hoping that honors in middle school would allow my child to get away from this sort of thing. Guess not.

Hate to break it to you and your snowflake but there are kids who interrupt and disrupt in all levels of classes.

Should other kid just have to deal with it because the interrupter has an IEP? The kids who don’t have one are disciplined when they interrupt or talk out of turn.

I have a kid with an IEP who I can guarantee is better behaved than anyone in any advanced class. In addition, they can keep up with the curriculum but do need their IEP for goals specific to their learning disabilities. IEP should not automatically disqualify you from certain courses or environments.

I am very glad that FCPS is taking this direction.

No one is saying that.

Exactly. Didn’t say that at all. One of my own kids has a 504. They do not disrupt other kids’ learning. But the ones who do disrupt others seem to be allowed to do this on the name of inclusion. And the other kids are asked to just deal with it. The disruptive kids are handled with kid gloves while others without IEPs get yelled at for doing much less.

If a kid with an IEP is prone to outbursts and disruptive behavior, their inclusion comes at the expense of other children’s education.

+1 I am in TT classrooms all day, and this is exactly the case. Kids who are disruptive should be removed (not just sent to the hallway or referred to admin for a talk). Until there are consequences for the most disruptive kids, the other students’ learning will be adversely impacted. It’s a circus in some of these classrooms, with kids feeding off of each other, and it’s a revolving door of hall passes, kids who get to see their counselor for any or no reason at all, kids who need the aforementioned kid gloves, admin coming in to observe, etc. Not to mention trying to actually TEACH and move forward with the other kids. We need a complete overhaul of our education system!

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