Anyone familiar with DCPS Math Quest Enrichment Summer Program?

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like they just bulk emailed everyone who met certain metrics. I doubt they care if anyone joins as long as they have enough to operate the program. And they'd probably be delighted if it were less affluent folks.

This. Doesn’t sound well planned. It’s more to target lower SES kids for math and who needs childcare.

No way would I cancel summer travel for this. What for? 4 weeks of math when your child is doing fine. They don’t need it. Let kids be kids for the summer and travel and do fun camps.

The line about “targeting lower SES kids for math and who need childcare” is honestly pretty gross and presumptuous. It assumes a lot about the district, families, and their motivations.

Haven’t been in DC too long? Yes most of their programming in the summer is to help low income kids and prevent summer slide in addition to helping families with childcare.

Above program is the same but at least now they are trying to help kids with potential whose families might not have the math capacity to help at home.

Are you naive enough to think they are targeting UMC families?? Come on, as can be seen here they have travel plans and if not summer camps have been booked since Jan.

I’m actually not new to DCPS. I’ve been connected to the system for nearly 20 years, so I’m very familiar with how many of these programs are structured and the goals behind them. I absolutely support efforts that provide academic support and childcare for families who need it.

That said, I stand by my original statement that the post I responded to felt presumptuous and gross. YMMV.

Yeah, the statement about it being for "lower SES students who need childcare" doesn't sound right. The two kids I know who got the email (my child and his friend) are both scoring 3 grades up in iReady and have parents who are professionally good at math (so they get plenty of math instruction at home). This might be a rare occasion when DCPS is genuinely trying to support advanced kids. Who knows what they will do, but the idea is kind of hopeful.

I also think the idea of late plans being anti-UMC is not quite right. BASIS (almost entirely MC and UMC) often has summer school and it's always announced late (they won't this year because they are doing some building improvements).

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like they just bulk emailed everyone who met certain metrics. I doubt they care if anyone joins as long as they have enough to operate the program. And they'd probably be delighted if it were less affluent folks.

This. Doesn’t sound well planned. It’s more to target lower SES kids for math and who needs childcare.

No way would I cancel summer travel for this. What for? 4 weeks of math when your child is doing fine. They don’t need it. Let kids be kids for the summer and travel and do fun camps.

The line about “targeting lower SES kids for math and who need childcare” is honestly pretty gross and presumptuous. It assumes a lot about the district, families, and their motivations.

Haven’t been in DC too long? Yes most of their programming in the summer is to help low income kids and prevent summer slide in addition to helping families with childcare.

Above program is the same but at least now they are trying to help kids with potential whose families might not have the math capacity to help at home.

Are you naive enough to think they are targeting UMC families?? Come on, as can be seen here they have travel plans and if not summer camps have been booked since Jan.

I’m actually not new to DCPS. I’ve been connected to the system for nearly 20 years, so I’m very familiar with how many of these programs are structured and the goals behind them. I absolutely support efforts that provide academic support and childcare for families who need it.

That said, I stand by my original statement that the post I responded to felt presumptuous and gross. YMMV.

Yeah, the statement about it being for "lower SES students who need childcare" doesn't sound right. The two kids I know who got the email (my child and his friend) are both scoring 3 grades up in iReady and have parents who are professionally good at math (so they get plenty of math instruction at home). This might be a rare occasion when DCPS is genuinely trying to support advanced kids. Who knows what they will do, but the idea is kind of hopeful.

I also think the idea of late plans being anti-UMC is not quite right. BASIS (almost entirely MC and UMC) often has summer school and it's always announced late (they won't this year because they are doing some building improvements).

Sorry but no, they are not targeting you. The mass email is likely sent out to all students who do well on iready or whatever at a certain cutoff. But the program, like all DCPS summer programming, is to help families who need it.

Feel free to send your kid if you want. But lots of families are not going to change their summer plans just to send their kid to a math camp. For what especially if your kid is already doing well.

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Pre-pandemic my middle school twins participated in something similar. We thought it would help them advance in math. Did not -it was a huge waste of their time. But they were already very adept at math.

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Do any of the kids who got this attend a WOTP school? Just curious.

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I agree with the folks who say it's either not targeting UMC folks or is not well considered. BASIS aside -- and parents know about that going in -- springing a brand new program on UMC families quite awhile after many summer program deadlines is never going to result in substantial uptake. Especially for a new program that lasts 6(!) weeks and no one knows anything about. Maybe if you could pick 1 week out of 6 people might rearrange plans as needed.

My kid goes to a non-T1 DCPS, but EOTP. We are not a professional math family, but are two parents with Ivy/equivalent undergrad degrees and grad degrees (which is to say that we aren't DCPS' normal target demographic, but actually have no particular expertise in supporting our child's off-the-iReady-chart math skills).

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of the kids who got this attend a WOTP school? Just curious.

Not from WOTP buy yes from Ross

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of the kids who got this attend a WOTP school? Just curious.

Yes. I know multiple kids who got it at my WOTP school.

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So where are the locations of the camp? That will tell you alot.

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Anonymous wrote:So where are the locations of the camp? That will tell you alot.

They are the same as the normal summer school sites, probably co-located. https://dcpsstrong.com/es-summer-school/

Raymond, Noyes, John Lewis, CW Harris and Boone.

Kids are assigned to locations based on their current school. You can see the list of which schools feed to which summer school location in that link. So Raymond is the site for schools like Ross, Hyde Addison, Janney, Mann, Eaton, also lots of others in "lower NW" like Garrison, Seaton, Marie Reed...

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Anonymous wrote:So where are the locations of the camp? That will tell you alot.

They are the same as the normal summer school sites, probably co-located. https://dcpsstrong.com/es-summer-school/

Raymond, Noyes, John Lewis, CW Harris and Boone.

Kids are assigned to locations based on their current school. You can see the list of which schools feed to which summer school location in that link. So Raymond is the site for schools like Ross, Hyde Addison, Janney, Mann, Eaton, also lots of others in "lower NW" like Garrison, Seaton, Marie Reed...

Well there you go. Same schools as extended summer school and ESL support. Nothing WOTP.

Yea, not targeting UMC families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where are the locations of the camp? That will tell you alot.

They are the same as the normal summer school sites, probably co-located. https://dcpsstrong.com/es-summer-school/

Raymond, Noyes, John Lewis, CW Harris and Boone.

Kids are assigned to locations based on their current school. You can see the list of which schools feed to which summer school location in that link. So Raymond is the site for schools like Ross, Hyde Addison, Janney, Mann, Eaton, also lots of others in "lower NW" like Garrison, Seaton, Marie Reed...

Well there you go. Same schools as extended summer school and ESL support. Nothing WOTP.

Yea, not targeting UMC families

OK! we're UMC and will go if it's possible to opt in for 2 or 3 weeks. I would be more than happy for my child to spend that time with any other student who is able to work 3 grade levels up in math, regardless of their HHI status.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where are the locations of the camp? That will tell you alot.

They are the same as the normal summer school sites, probably co-located. https://dcpsstrong.com/es-summer-school/

Raymond, Noyes, John Lewis, CW Harris and Boone.

Kids are assigned to locations based on their current school. You can see the list of which schools feed to which summer school location in that link. So Raymond is the site for schools like Ross, Hyde Addison, Janney, Mann, Eaton, also lots of others in "lower NW" like Garrison, Seaton, Marie Reed...

Well there you go. Same schools as extended summer school and ESL support. Nothing WOTP.

Yea, not targeting UMC families

OK! we're UMC and will go if it's possible to opt in for 2 or 3 weeks. I would be more than happy for my child to spend that time with any other student who is able to work 3 grade levels up in math, regardless of their HHI status.

They are not going to be able to accommodate specific levels or needs. I suspect it’s going to be Edtech and computer based acceleration but who knows.

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Well, if it’s EdTech than I’m looking forward to writing a long email for why we decline the program. But we also would do a few weeks if it’s not computer based. (Look on elementary school forum EdTech thread)

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if it’s EdTech than I’m looking forward to writing a long email for why we decline the program. But we also would do a few weeks if it’s not computer based. (Look on elementary school forum EdTech thread)

Someone up thread posted this link and if this is it, then it’s screens and gaming.

https://www.98thpercentile.com/blog/how-math-quest-programs-inspire-a-love-for-mathematics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where are the locations of the camp? That will tell you alot.

They are the same as the normal summer school sites, probably co-located. https://dcpsstrong.com/es-summer-school/

Raymond, Noyes, John Lewis, CW Harris and Boone.

Kids are assigned to locations based on their current school. You can see the list of which schools feed to which summer school location in that link. So Raymond is the site for schools like Ross, Hyde Addison, Janney, Mann, Eaton, also lots of others in "lower NW" like Garrison, Seaton, Marie Reed...

Well there you go. Same schools as extended summer school and ESL support. Nothing WOTP.

Yea, not targeting UMC families

OK! we're UMC and will go if it's possible to opt in for 2 or 3 weeks. I would be more than happy for my child to spend that time with any other student who is able to work 3 grade levels up in math, regardless of their HHI status.

They are not going to be able to accommodate specific levels or needs. I suspect it’s going to be Edtech and computer based acceleration but who knows.

I'm going to bet it's neither EdTech nor acceleration (these kids wouldn't not benefit from further acceleration.) I also think they will have all of these advanced math students in a room together, so who cares if there are remedial summer school programs happening on the same campus?

Again, we are getting more information in an email this week. All questions will be answered soon. Our school also doesn't know any of the details yet. But our AP seemed to think it wouldnt be computer based.