"AI can do your job but you still need to RTO"

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Anonymous wrote:This was all led by the federal government. Their managers had no way to track people at home or to discipline people who weren't working at home. There weren't many of these people but they ruined it for everyone. Clearly managers could have been given more tools to manage, but they'd rather have butts in seats.


Complete BS that performance had anything to do with federal RTO. Sorry, but they (i.e. Russ Vought) want people to quit and that's all there is to it.


+1. My office has had quantifiable performance output for years. The deal was always meet your goals and we don't care what you do. If not THEN you'd have to come back to work in person. So everyone always made sure to meet their daily goal. Well then got told to RTO anyway last year because I'm lazy? Well guess what? We're demonstrably LESS productive due to decrease in flexibility. Many people used to telework through a minor cold, now they call in sick for a few days. It adds up. And now upper management is making a mistake by becoming even more micromanaging with continuing to limit flexibility in other ways like strict core hours. Well that doesn't work when the internet at work is out. Sorry, I'm not staying late to meet my goal like I would have when teleworking. Really, a bunch of clowns there.


My first company where we had oldtimers mixed in with new people our department had rule NO ONE goes home till EVERYONE finished work. So we were very good at stuff. The old timers who could breeze through work by lunchtime would start helping the kids and elderly or people out of office with their work.

in remote those high skilled people who can get job done in two hours just go play golf or watch netflix or take a nap and do not pass on the info how to do job more productively.

You be suprised the incredible peer pressure when 299 people are working till 8pm cause one guy is slow or stupid. We gang up one by one on the slow people and start coaching them, giving them tips, writing tips for them, showing them how to get it done. Today in remote that does not happend. And we were all off the clock so I am working late for free.

We used to say what do you call a guy with two black eyes? Someone who does not listen the first time. Last nights eposide of Scrubs kinda went over this. There is no tough boss yelling at you, working long hours so people learn very slow.

Mike Tyson said we all have plans till we are punched in the face. These kids need that punch. And their bosses napping on their couch in Bethesda at 3 pm instead of working and training them is hurting the next generations.


J1-2-3, how many first jobs are you going to pretend to have had?

Every time you describe a different (fake) first job that you are nostalgic for, I just think "That job sounds laughably bad, I simply would not have worked there."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was all led by the federal government. Their managers had no way to track people at home or to discipline people who weren't working at home. There weren't many of these people but they ruined it for everyone. Clearly managers could have been given more tools to manage, but they'd rather have butts in seats.


Complete BS that performance had anything to do with federal RTO. Sorry, but they (i.e. Russ Vought) want people to quit and that's all there is to it.


+1. My office has had quantifiable performance output for years. The deal was always meet your goals and we don't care what you do. If not THEN you'd have to come back to work in person. So everyone always made sure to meet their daily goal. Well then got told to RTO anyway last year because I'm lazy? Well guess what? We're demonstrably LESS productive due to decrease in flexibility. Many people used to telework through a minor cold, now they call in sick for a few days. It adds up. And now upper management is making a mistake by becoming even more micromanaging with continuing to limit flexibility in other ways like strict core hours. Well that doesn't work when the internet at work is out. Sorry, I'm not staying late to meet my goal like I would have when teleworking. Really, a bunch of clowns there.


My first company where we had oldtimers mixed in with new people our department had rule NO ONE goes home till EVERYONE finished work. So we were very good at stuff. The old timers who could breeze through work by lunchtime would start helping the kids and elderly or people out of office with their work.

in remote those high skilled people who can get job done in two hours just go play golf or watch netflix or take a nap and do not pass on the info how to do job more productively.

You be suprised the incredible peer pressure when 299 people are working till 8pm cause one guy is slow or stupid. We gang up one by one on the slow people and start coaching them, giving them tips, writing tips for them, showing them how to get it done. Today in remote that does not happend. And we were all off the clock so I am working late for free.

We used to say what do you call a guy with two black eyes? Someone who does not listen the first time. Last nights eposide of Scrubs kinda went over this. There is no tough boss yelling at you, working long hours so people learn very slow.

Mike Tyson said we all have plans till we are punched in the face. These kids need that punch. And their bosses napping on their couch in Bethesda at 3 pm instead of working and training them is hurting the next generations.


I am PP. Thankfully I didn't have to read much past the first sentence to know you are old, outdated, and not with the times. This all can and does happen quite often and effectively over TEAMS. So much so that we use it in office too. Stop fooling yourself about all this wonderful in person collaboration. Everyone commutes to the office to telework from there.
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