True, what I tried to say is do not worry about not having friendship at TJ, even when you coming to TJ not knowing anyone. TJ is quite welcoming for any type of kids. |
Honestly, so what? Even if this is true - and I'm not entirely convinced that it is - you'll find no end of TJ alumni who didn't get into their first choice college who are killing it and credit their TJ experience for what it taught them. A pair of twins I know went to TJ and then a state school and Langley then a high-end Ivy - and the TJ kid is doing way better and no one is surprised. |
Of course I'll find an end of TJ grads who didn't get into their first choice and are still upset and aren't "killing it." The fact that you know a pair of twins who you claim is doing better than a Langley ivy grad doesn't change this fact. To say "so what" completely ignores those who value what a higher ranked college can do versus what a higher ranked HS can do. Do you think: - base high school grads going to top ranked colleges don't do amazingly well in those colleges? - going to a top ranked colleges comes with "extras" like personal connections that result in job offers/internships, benefits to job offers from college being very well respected. etc. We turned TJ down because we valued the longer game and are very happy with our choices even though it was difficult at the time. Sure, TJ has some great opportunities, but we saw that they were outweighed by the opportunities that could be afforded in college. |
Syntactical issues notwithstanding, yes, I know for a fact that many base high school grads who reject TJ: - don't get into top colleges anyway - are significantly less prepared for college when they arrive ... and that those kids who go out for internships: - are less prepared to execute in those internships when they get there - get beaten out by TJ kids who didn't get into the highly rejective schools once they arrive The bottom line is, by rejecting TJ in favor of your base school you're making a bet on a 20% chance of admission (and I'm being generous) rather than a 10% chance and you're looking to join a club (elite schools) whose benefits are significantly less exceptional than they were 15-20 years ago and who are under constant threat from our rogue presidential administration. Literally any human development specialist will tell you that the ages of 14-18 are far more critical for the child's future than 18-22. |
You can’t argue with insanity and with someone who just makes things up. |
Wait, You thought optimizing for college admissions over early academic rigor was playing "the longer game?" We aren't talking about Harvard from base vs GMU from TJ. Unless you are from a title 1 school, we are most likely talking about UVA from base vs something like W&M or VT from TJ. |
I’m talking about turning TJ down for 9th and a a HS class of ‘26 heading to an ivy. We feel pretty confident the ivy would not have happened from TJ. |
Where do you think they would have gone out of TJ? It's not like your kid would have gone to JMU instead of an ivy at TJ. |
You're going to get less from the Ivy compared to the other school they'd have attended than you would have gotten from TJ compared to your base. You made the bet and won, but in the long run you're still going to lose. |
Decades of experience and thousands of student interactions inform my assertions. What informs yours? |
No, I made the bet and won. It is far, far better to go to a highly ranked ivy than it is to be at lower ranked schools if you're driven and successful no matter where you'd go. I know some kooks think saying you went to TJ when you were 16 helps you when you're 42. You're one. |
Still: You can’t argue with insanity and with someone who just makes things up. |
So just to confirm: where you go doesn’t matter… except it’s ‘far, far better’ if it’s an Ivy. Love a take that argues with itself. It’s hilarious you think a school name at 16 is irrelevant at 42, but a school name at 22 is somehow your entire personality forever. |
DP This isn't about bragging rights because frankly at 42 nobody cares where you went to college any more than where you went to high school. If you successfully get through TJ, you will likely be better trained than if you go to your base. It's not always worth it because a lot of people fail to get through TJ successfully and you can learn that discipline later in life but the cost is higher then. If you go to grad school, the value of a name brand undergrad almost evaporates unless you went to HYPSM (and maybe caltech). And if you can get into HYPSM at base school, you would not have struggled at TJ. I cannot think of a single kid from Langley that got into HYPSM that would not have done similarly well at TJ. The kids that shouldn't go to TJ are the ones that can get into UVA from Base but not from TJ. |
I would rather my kids go to a great college (academic fit + good ranking) over TJ (v base). |