Are people who market Jesus worth admiring?

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Anonymous wrote:Christianity isn't a scam. There are however plenty of people who are not real Christians who exploit it.

I have returned to my Catholic roots. At my age, I have really started studying the Bible, gnostic textsc etc. The true message of Christ is beautiful.

If you truly understand the message of Christ, you would not behave like these people.It makes me sad to see them distort the message.

OH BS

It is absolutely a scam.

Indoctrination into a cult.

What message??? That is is ok to rape 9 year olds?? To Protect Pedophiles like the Catholic Church is still doing in it's lawsuits.....

The President of the US claims the US should be a Chrisitian country when he took an oath to the complete opposite do you think that is Christian like???

Ericka Kirk spewing god crap

Joel Osteen spewing god crap

McClean Bible church same.....

Great Christians in Epsteins files and all around this country people like Mike Johnson claimbing to be god fearing Christians??? LIARS

None of what you wrote is about actual Christianity (which was PP's point). You are writing about people doing bad things.

Ericka Kirk, Joel Osteen and MCCLean Bible church people all present themselves as Christians.

Identifying as a good thing to cover an evil thing does not undermine the true good thing. The scandalousness points to the validity of the good thing.

As Chesterton noted, "Monasteries were impugned not for the chastity of monks, but for the unchastity of monks."

Trump passes himself off as a Christian too, when he's obviously an atheist - a bad one - And Christians go along with it.

Trump is not a true atheist. He is just a bad Christian. He talks about heaven. An atheist knows better. Also, he's not intelligent enough to be an atheist. He's just good at duping people who think they're good Christians.

Atheists don't have to be intelligent, they just have to not believe in God. Lots of people don't - some smart and some not so smart. These days, though, it's true that a lot of very smart people are atheists. They may have believed as children, because they were taught to believe (children are very impressionable), but after they learned science and/or thought about religion more, they realized that it was impossible to live on after your body dies. It is a nice thought though.

PP didnt say atheism requires intelligence. They said Trump is not intelligent enough to be one.

Same thing -- pp says you have to have a certain level of intelligence to be an atheist. That is not correct. You can be dumb and still not believe in God. Some people just seem to not be innate believers. And others may never have been indoctrinated by their dumb parents who weren't indoctrinated themselves.

It's all a matter of indoctrination, not intelligence. Just like all kids, both smart and dumb, believe in Santa Claus for a while, then all kids stop believing as they grow up.

You still don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Christianity isn't a scam. There are however plenty of people who are not real Christians who exploit it.

I have returned to my Catholic roots. At my age, I have really started studying the Bible, gnostic textsc etc. The true message of Christ is beautiful.

If you truly understand the message of Christ, you would not behave like these people.It makes me sad to see them distort the message.

OH BS

It is absolutely a scam.

Indoctrination into a cult.

What message??? That is is ok to rape 9 year olds?? To Protect Pedophiles like the Catholic Church is still doing in it's lawsuits.....

The President of the US claims the US should be a Chrisitian country when he took an oath to the complete opposite do you think that is Christian like???

Ericka Kirk spewing god crap

Joel Osteen spewing god crap

McClean Bible church same.....

Great Christians in Epsteins files and all around this country people like Mike Johnson claimbing to be god fearing Christians??? LIARS

None of what you wrote is about actual Christianity (which was PP's point). You are writing about people doing bad things.

Ericka Kirk, Joel Osteen and MCCLean Bible church people all present themselves as Christians.

Identifying as a good thing to cover an evil thing does not undermine the true good thing. The scandalousness points to the validity of the good thing.

As Chesterton noted, "Monasteries were impugned not for the chastity of monks, but for the unchastity of monks."

Trump passes himself off as a Christian too, when he's obviously an atheist - a bad one - And Christians go along with it.

Trump is not a true atheist. He is just a bad Christian. He talks about heaven. An atheist knows better. Also, he's not intelligent enough to be an atheist. He's just good at duping people who think they're good Christians.

Atheists don't have to be intelligent, they just have to not believe in God. Lots of people don't - some smart and some not so smart. These days, though, it's true that a lot of very smart people are atheists. They may have believed as children, because they were taught to believe (children are very impressionable), but after they learned science and/or thought about religion more, they realized that it was impossible to live on after your body dies. It is a nice thought though.

PP didnt say atheism requires intelligence. They said Trump is not intelligent enough to be one.

Same thing -- pp says you have to have a certain level of intelligence to be an atheist. That is not correct. You can be dumb and still not believe in God. Some people just seem to not be innate believers. And others may never have been indoctrinated by their dumb parents who weren't indoctrinated themselves.

It's all a matter of indoctrination, not intelligence. Just like all kids, both smart and dumb, believe in Santa Claus for a while, then all kids stop believing as they grow up.

You still don't get it.

Please be specific.

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Anonymous wrote:The Foundation Beyond Belief (rebranded as Go Humanity) was dissolved in 2022 or 2023. They became financially unable to function.

They were a secular humanist charity but they didn’t raise enough money to stay active and charitable.

Color me shocked. /s

The avowed atheists in my life are the most selfish, self-centered people I know.

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Anonymous wrote:The Foundation Beyond Belief (rebranded as Go Humanity) was dissolved in 2022 or 2023. They became financially unable to function.

They were a secular humanist charity but they didn’t raise enough money to stay active and charitable.

Color me shocked. /s

The avowed atheists in my life are the most selfish, self-centered people I know.

A lot of churches are closing too. The avowed Christians in my life are the most selfish people I know. Anyone can be selfish, irrespective of belief in a deity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

It’s not called “marketing Jesus”, OP. It’s called the Great Commission of Mathew 28:18-20. Read and educate yourself. There’s a wiki on it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

It’s not called “marketing Jesus”, OP. It’s called the Great Commission of Mathew 28:18-20. Read and educate yourself. There’s a wiki on it

Christians may call it the great commission but others call it marketing Jesus - which is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

It’s not called “marketing Jesus”, OP. It’s called the Great Commission of Mathew 28:18-20. Read and educate yourself. There’s a wiki on it

Christians may call it the great commission but others call it marketing Jesus - which is what it is.

Not to the 2.6 billion Christians in the world. You can’t have intelligent conversation about the subject without discussing the great commission, which apparent no one here is educated enough to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

Of course they aren’t.

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Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

It’s not called “marketing Jesus”, OP. It’s called the Great Commission of Mathew 28:18-20. Read and educate yourself. There’s a wiki on it

Christians may call it the great commission but others call it marketing Jesus - which is what it is.

Not to the 2.6 billion Christians in the world. You can’t have intelligent conversation about the subject without discussing the great commission, which apparent no one here is educated enough to understand.

Correct - the Christians of the world think the great commission is a great thing, but the rest of the people call it marketing Jesus. It's not a matter of not being educated enough to understand it. It's a matter of not being indoctrinated to believe it, which pp obviously has difficulty understanding - plus pp is obviously indoctrinated.

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Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

It’s not called “marketing Jesus”, OP. It’s called the Great Commission of Mathew 28:18-20. Read and educate yourself. There’s a wiki on it

Christians may call it the great commission but others call it marketing Jesus - which is what it is.

Not to the 2.6 billion Christians in the world. You can’t have intelligent conversation about the subject without discussing the great commission, which apparent no one here is educated enough to understand.

Correct - the Christians of the world think the great commission is a great thing, but the rest of the people call it marketing Jesus. It's not a matter of not being educated enough to understand it. It's a matter of not being indoctrinated to believe it, which pp obviously has difficulty understanding - plus pp is obviously indoctrinated.

People who I know who aren’t Christians don’t think about Jesus or Christianity They have their own lives with jobs, loved ones, hobbies, family, etc.

[Anonymous]

People can market Jesus to their heart's content; it's their religious freedom. It's a bonus when they are practicing what they are preaching.

What I can't ever be ok with is profiting off of Jesus, or any religion for that matter. There's a difference between the two and the list of people who were described by OP seems to lean more towards profiting. And we know how Jesus felt about the money lenders in the temple...

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Anonymous wrote:The “Friendly Atheist” doesn’t think so.

He says, “Between televangelists, megachurch leaders, Republican politicians, campus evangelists, hate-preachers, lazy apologists, everyone who runs the National Prayer Breakfast, and Franklin Graham, the amount of harm caused by the most fervent Jesus followers can’t be understated.” https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/the-he-gets-us-campaign-has-a-pr?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=187109223&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=bfepb&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

What do you think?

It’s not called “marketing Jesus”, OP. It’s called the Great Commission of Mathew 28:18-20. Read and educate yourself. There’s a wiki on it

Christians may call it the great commission but others call it marketing Jesus - which is what it is.

Not to the 2.6 billion Christians in the world. You can’t have intelligent conversation about the subject without discussing the great commission, which apparent no one here is educated enough to understand.

Correct - the Christians of the world think the great commission is a great thing, but the rest of the people call it marketing Jesus. It's not a matter of not being educated enough to understand it. It's a matter of not being indoctrinated to believe it, which pp obviously has difficulty understanding - plus pp is obviously indoctrinated.

People who I know who aren’t Christians don’t think about Jesus or Christianity They have their own lives with jobs, loved ones, hobbies, family, etc.

I don't think about Christianity either, when Christians aren't screwing around with the world, which is hardly ever, these days.

[Anonymous]

Religion has ruined so much. Killed so many. So much loss and heartache and waste of humanity. If there IS a god, he is either evil or impotent. Think for ONE second if it could be proven untrue. All of this pain for nothing’.
Not to mention the sheer amount of distraction from us truly evolving as humans-no instead people are fighting and killing over a “loving” being. True insanity. Jesus’ marketing team has a lot to answer for in my book