Rescues “saving” adoptable dogs
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Anonymous
Oh, lil buddy. You're so lost! Read up on your history, please. If you want to choose "a dog", there are plenty available. If you want a purebred, that's different, for a reason, and it always has been. If you want "a purse" you can go to the thrift store and find one. If you want a Birkin, well, save your pennies! What makes you think any other item should work differently just because you want it to? |
You want a purebred cocker spaniel for cheap? You'll need to put your name in at shelter and wait (you'll get queue advantage if you sign up to foster, volunteer a bit, treat the people there like people...). You want a cheap dog and fast? Go to the shelter. I've never seen one empty; there's a dog there you can take home today. You want a specific kind/sort of dog right now? Be prepared to pay for it.
Anonymous
NO DOG SHOULD BE IN A SHELTER FOR 30 DAYS! Holy crap, what an ignorant thing to say! "Dogs who could be spared the shelter environment entirely should be forced there anyway so some DCUM posters delicate feefees won't be hurt about the "right to adopt a dog of one's choosing" that doesn't exist being withheld from some mythical potential owner strawman." That's insane. Most people who have dogs these days really shouldn't. This forum regularly provides proof of this. We don't need more adopters. We need fewer dogs. |
Anonymous
When it stops working, it'll stop happening. Stop telling everyone they "should" be able to have a dog and the demand for dogs will drop. But your argument is based on unsubstantiated nonsense that says rescue workers are making "a nice salary" and the rescue fees are "exorbitant". They don't, and they're not. Go do that work and then report back on what it costs. You're ignorant (at best), and it shows. |
Anonymous
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It's supply and demand. 50 years ago no one was willing to pay $700 for a cocker spaniel or whatever because puppies were common. In the 70s my aunts cocker spaniel had half poodle puppies and she gave them away for free to coworkers! Now responsible people neuter their dogs and then act shocked when there are fewer puppies. But there are more buyers as our population has grown.
The rescues wouldn't be charging so much if people weren't willing to pay. They presumably charge less for less desirable dogs. Dogs are indeed luxury items and no one wants to admit that. No one actually needs a dog and they are horrendously expensive. I don't have one for that reason. |
Anonymous
"This" was a crap take, and your monosyllabic comment pump strongly suggests sockpuppeting. |
Anonymous
| So, I go to shelters and also foster for a few local rescues and some breed specific rescues. A shelter just wants to move dogs to lower its euthanasia rates and also give dogs any chance at getting out and being adopted. They will not be picky on who leaves. They don’t have the money to provide much in medical care so many of the dogs don’t get what they need and that’s why adoption can be low or fee. Some rescues will pull dogs that have been in there a long time and or may need medical care, some will pull based on breed, and some will pull based on the typical adoptive families that come to that rescue and what they look for. Some may also pull knowing which fosters they have lined up and what dogs that foster can and will handle. The rescues don’t make money. When they pull a dog they will often get it a vet check ($), get it dewormed if needed, possibly do heartworm treatments, schedule a spay or neuter, vaccines for young or unknown vaccine history dogs, oh and provide heartworm and flea preventives (expensive). These are all the things that are usually done at a minimum. So how is a $500 fee making money off that dog? Some rescues go further and pay for food and supplies to the foster. I recommend that anyone that has concerns about a rescue profiting is to volunteer for that rescue, inform yourself. You will see firsthand. I am also not against breeders since I have also owned a full breed dog and that is why I do breed specific rescues as well. But most people don’t do their research in breeders or ever meet the puppy in person before they get it. They aren’t interested in reputable breeders, just convenient breeders with a nice website or picture. A good breeder give you lifelong advice and will always take their dogs back. They also provide medical tests since depending on the breed, they can be prone to genetic flaws. So, no, many rescues don’t pick the most adoptable dogs, they get the dogs based on their experience, their foster availability, and what they can adopt out the most. I also laugh at anyone who claims they make money. Those are the nut jobs that have never volunteered or helped and just spend too much time on google. |
Anonymous
1) nobody is owed a chance to adopt 2) volunteer as a foster. You'll get first dibs (yes, we get first pick of incoming animals, even before the rescues) 3) If you can't afford $500 for a dog, you probably can't afford the dog. Sorry that math hurts your feelings, but it's real. If you can't afford the tires, you can't afford the car. If you can't afford the basic fees for prelim meds/vetting, you can't afford to properly feed, care for, and maintain the animal. |
Anonymous
I love you for talking all this sense, but the people you need to reach aren't going to read this. On the off chance they do: you can run simple, back-of-envelope calculations for spay/neuter, shots, dewormer (keep in mind that many rescued dogs who have spent time living feral come with ALL KINDS of stowaways and will need multiple rounds of this), heartworm preventative, at least one basic grooming, etc. If you can find that full package for less than $500 somewhere, please let me know where! The cheapest route I've ever found was via the local shelter. Some rescues work with volunteer vets, or get bulk discounts on things like the big jar of panacur (if you don't know what that is, you shouldn't be commenting on this thread). All of that requires labor and upfront costs. So many ignorant people on this forum, and this thread in particular! |
Anonymous
Continuing to spout nonsense doesn't make it true. The rescue is putting in labor. That labor has value, both to the dog and to the potential owners. Please educate yourself. Your arguments are ignorant af. |
Anonymous
Well, it’s because the “adopt don’t shop” movement, while well intended, has made it harder and not easier to find an ethical breeder. But then at the same time, people need family pets and most of the strays and unwanted puppies in America, thanks to effective spay/neuter laws in the North, are pit and hound mixes. People want smaller, easier dogs as pets. So you get a lot of rescues that can “poof” sanitize any dog into being an “adopt don’t shop” dog, including the ones they buy from breeders and auctions. Mostly those are people trying to do the right thing but there are probably also some bad actors genuinely masquerading as “rescues” too. I don’t mean the rescue in the OPs post, I mean people selling dogs as being “rescued from a puppy mill” or whatever and they’re just buying them. The problem is that neither the rescue or breed people are willing or able to articulate a sustainable, long term vision for how best to supply the suburbs with healthy, suitable family pets. So the market gets kind of warped. |
Anonymous
I took my mutt puppy to VCA last year for a "new baby" visit after adopting her. Here's the breakdown of the bill: Exam fee, well-patient visit: $149.75 Fecal keyscreen (parasite screening): $147.30 heartworm preventative - Trio (One dose; this is a monthly med): 38.93 vax - Lyme (first of two shots; needed another 3 weeks later): 97.50 vax - Influenza H3N8/H3N2 (first of two shots; needed another 2 weeks later): $113.60 med - Panacur (street puppy came with Giardia) $94.60 $641.68 upfront and another $211.10 a few weeks later (and that was a tech visit; they didn't charge me an additional visit fee): $852.78 I got to skip several shots that had been provided by the rescue (look up the puppy vax schedule and run your own calculations), and they also took care of spay/neuter. <$1000 for a new dog with all that done is perfectly reasonable, even for a random shelter mutt. The only people "making stuff up" are those alleging that somehow this should all be magically free just because they don't want to pay it/can't afford it. |
I'm sure the dog is very sad in its fuzzy bed, with its treats and plush toy, that you don't like the funding model of the organization that placed the dog there.
Anonymous
If you are so upset about the practices of the shelter, OP, I'm sure they would welcome you as a volunteer. Also, you are befuddled by the fact that wealthy people have more options than the less well off? Not sure what to say to that. |
Anonymous
A county shelter adoption fee is between $180 and $250 depending on the county. Is that a "sales transaction"? If not, why not? |
Anonymous
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I’ve rescued all my dogs 2 from shelters and 3 from rescues. Did PG tell you that you couldn’t take the dog because a rescue was taking it? They should have let you assumimg you were approved.
I’ve recently started fostering for a local rescue. Al the dogs are in foster homes with volunteers until adopted. My understanding based on my experience is that they pull dogs like to get euthanized that will get adopted quickly, so the fosters arent left with dogs for months on end. The foster dogs are often living with resident dogs so have to get along with dogs and children and be adoptable. Rescues are not “ selling” dogs. Selling implies someone is making a profit. No one is profiting from any of this. The $300-$500 adoption fee covers all shots, spay/neuter, and helps the rescue provide collars, leashes, crates, meds, etc to the foster. I personally bought all the food and treats for my foster dogs but they provided me with crates and puppy pads. |
Anonymous
This and virtue signaling. |