WaPo article on school vaccination rates

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Anonymous wrote:What's up with Bethesda Montessori, with a 40% vaccination rate? I've never heard of the school, but it's the lowest in the area.


I can’t access the article but BMS ends with K and the K program is teeny tiny. Most of the kids who attend are 2-4 years old So maybe it’s an age thing with families spacing out vaccinations for younger kids? Our kids attended awhile back and would say it’s neither “progressive” or “conservative.”
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Our Montessori is 100% and so are the other Montessori schools in our (different) metro. Anti-vax really is not usually a Montessori thing.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what year the measles vaccine came out but I do remember seeing kids on TV (Brady Bunch) and in books (The Great Brain) getting measles and mumps on purpose and it being no bigger deal than chicken pox. Google says 99.7-99.9% recovery rate. Parents have the right to consider cost-benefit analysis on this stuff and some come away with an opinion different than yours.


Chicken pox, yes, measles and mumps, no. We have deafness in an elderly family member from catching one of those at 18 months, before vaccines. To clarify, he has been deaf since 18 months old, and had vaccines existed at that time, he would not be deaf. Children also died.

These parents, and this movement, have no memory of the before times, and are making a huge mistake over vaccines, science that saved lives. A massive step back, and history will reflect this
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Anonymous wrote:As a GDS parent, I'm embarrassed and furious about its low rate. I want to understand from the administration why it's so low.


Isn’t that what you chose? It’s a private school. You didn’t want this and the other rules public has to follow.


Private schools in fact do need to follow vaccine rules. I know the GDS nurse cares about getting the medical forms because when we've been late, she emails us to remind us. So I'm surprised that they are seemingly so lax with exemptions.


Schools don't grant exemptions in DC. Regardless of the school type, families need to go through DC Health/Community Health Administration for a religious exemption:
https://dchealth.dc.gov/service/immunization-forms

(The idea that schools do this themselves got started during Covid because they did need to make their own rules for that vaccine specifically.)
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Anonymous wrote:What's up with Bethesda Montessori, with a 40% vaccination rate? I've never heard of the school, but it's the lowest in the area.


And Capital Hill Day School, at 52%. I didn't think that was either a MAGA or hippie school.


Not connected to CHDS, but I would be willing to bet this is a reporting/paperwork issue and/or DC Health (based on my experiences with them) has old information.
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I haven't checked the VA state site since the pandemic but there are a couple things I noticed

Private schools are just bad at reporting and there just isn't intense follow up. So sometimes the reports are out of date or schools just take a long time send in their updates.

And the state of VA only changed their school vax requirements to align with the CDC schedule in 2020/2021, therefore, prior to that , there was a much longer time frame to obtain vaccines, and also some weren't required.
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Anonymous wrote:What's up with Bethesda Montessori, with a 40% vaccination rate? I've never heard of the school, but it's the lowest in the area.


And Capital Hill Day School, at 52%. I didn't think that was either a MAGA or hippie school.


I find this shocking. They were requiring the covid vaccine in the early days.
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Anonymous wrote:What's up with Bethesda Montessori, with a 40% vaccination rate? I've never heard of the school, but it's the lowest in the area.


And Capital Hill Day School, at 52%. I didn't think that was either a MAGA or hippie school.


I find this shocking. They were requiring the covid vaccine in the early days.


They hold a vaccination clinic on campus for flu and Covid. I do wonder if it’s a paperwork/reporting issue?
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Anonymous wrote:What’s odd is that all the private colleges require vaccinations for basically everything…way more than what private k-12 require.

Maybe there is a way to claim some exemption…our kids are vaccinated, so it wasn’t an issue…but it was surprising as to how exhaustive the requirements.


One brand of anti-vaxxing is to delay vaccinations. Trump has jumped on this bandwagon, that's why he talks about "changing the vaccine schedule." This is a big demand of anti-vaxxers. They want to schedule to allow people to delay vaccines, wait longer between different doses, etc., without repercussions for things like school enrollment.

I also think the schools with the lowest vaccine rates tend to also have UMC or wealthy families who do not want or expect their kids to pursue a standard American career path through the most elite school they can get into. Many of these kids may go to college outside the US or go to schools that are vaccine optional, of which there are many.

For families that are already wealthy, many don't actually dream of sending their kids to Yale or Stanford. Remember, people who disagree with vaccination requirements are, by definition, anti-conformist.


I don’t know what you are talking about…Bill Gates sent his kids to Stanford…Jeff Bezos has one at MIT, Elon Musk at Brown (who knows where the younger brood goes)…they definitely expect their kids to attend top schools.

You have plenty of super wealthy non-Asian Americans paying college counselors $100k+to get their kids into these schools.


You get that not all rich people, right? Those people all vaccinated their kids (except maybe Musk, he's crazy). We're talking about rich people who don't vaccinate their kids.


Yeah…those people care about top schools too. The difference is that their 18 year old kids can go get vaccinated on their own (which many do, and think their own parents are idiots).
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what year the measles vaccine came out but I do remember seeing kids on TV (Brady Bunch) and in books (The Great Brain) getting measles and mumps on purpose and it being no bigger deal than chicken pox. Google says 99.7-99.9% recovery rate. Parents have the right to consider cost-benefit analysis on this stuff and some come away with an opinion different than yours.


Chicken pox, yes, measles and mumps, no. We have deafness in an elderly family member from catching one of those at 18 months, before vaccines. To clarify, he has been deaf since 18 months old, and had vaccines existed at that time, he would not be deaf. Children also died.

These parents, and this movement, have no memory of the before times, and are making a huge mistake over vaccines, science that saved lives. A massive step back, and history will reflect this


Undoubtedly there are people who suffer negative effects from illnesses. The thing to consider is the risk of these versus the risk of vaccine injury. People have the right to do their own research and make this determination for themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what year the measles vaccine came out but I do remember seeing kids on TV (Brady Bunch) and in books (The Great Brain) getting measles and mumps on purpose and it being no bigger deal than chicken pox. Google says 99.7-99.9% recovery rate. Parents have the right to consider cost-benefit analysis on this stuff and some come away with an opinion different than yours.


Chicken pox, yes, measles and mumps, no. We have deafness in an elderly family member from catching one of those at 18 months, before vaccines. To clarify, he has been deaf since 18 months old, and had vaccines existed at that time, he would not be deaf. Children also died.

These parents, and this movement, have no memory of the before times, and are making a huge mistake over vaccines, science that saved lives. A massive step back, and history will reflect this


Undoubtedly there are people who suffer negative effects from illnesses. The thing to consider is the risk of these versus the risk of vaccine injury. People have the right to do their own research and make this determination for themselves.


No they don’t. People who didn’t go to medical school are too dumb to know how to weigh those risks and also too arrogant to admit that. Hence mandates.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a GDS parent, I'm embarrassed and furious about its low rate. I want to understand from the administration why it's so low.


Isn’t that what you chose? It’s a private school. You didn’t want this and the other rules public has to follow.


Private schools in fact do need to follow vaccine rules. I know the GDS nurse cares about getting the medical forms because when we've been late, she emails us to remind us. So I'm surprised that they are seemingly so lax with exemptions.
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Usually the Principal or Head excludes once students are found out of compliance. NOT the school nurse. Exemptions are medical or religious.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what year the measles vaccine came out but I do remember seeing kids on TV (Brady Bunch) and in books (The Great Brain) getting measles and mumps on purpose and it being no bigger deal than chicken pox. Google says 99.7-99.9% recovery rate. Parents have the right to consider cost-benefit analysis on this stuff and some come away with an opinion different than yours.


Chicken pox, yes, measles and mumps, no. We have deafness in an elderly family member from catching one of those at 18 months, before vaccines. To clarify, he has been deaf since 18 months old, and had vaccines existed at that time, he would not be deaf. Children also died.

These parents, and this movement, have no memory of the before times, and are making a huge mistake over vaccines, science that saved lives. A massive step back, and history will reflect this


Undoubtedly there are people who suffer negative effects from illnesses. The thing to consider is the risk of these versus the risk of vaccine injury. People have the right to do their own research and make this determination for themselves.


What if no one got vaccinated?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what year the measles vaccine came out but I do remember seeing kids on TV (Brady Bunch) and in books (The Great Brain) getting measles and mumps on purpose and it being no bigger deal than chicken pox. Google says 99.7-99.9% recovery rate. Parents have the right to consider cost-benefit analysis on this stuff and some come away with an opinion different than yours.


Chicken pox, yes, measles and mumps, no. We have deafness in an elderly family member from catching one of those at 18 months, before vaccines. To clarify, he has been deaf since 18 months old, and had vaccines existed at that time, he would not be deaf. Children also died.

These parents, and this movement, have no memory of the before times, and are making a huge mistake over vaccines, science that saved lives. A massive step back, and history will reflect this


Undoubtedly there are people who suffer negative effects from illnesses. The thing to consider is the risk of these versus the risk of vaccine injury. People have the right to do their own research and make this determination for themselves.


This is always the argument…but then you ask them for their research and are met with blank stares…because they haven’t done any.

What’s bizarre about your statement is that there is tons of research that the risk of these diseases is like 1000x that of the risk of vaccine injury.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know what year the measles vaccine came out but I do remember seeing kids on TV (Brady Bunch) and in books (The Great Brain) getting measles and mumps on purpose and it being no bigger deal than chicken pox. Google says 99.7-99.9% recovery rate. Parents have the right to consider cost-benefit analysis on this stuff and some come away with an opinion different than yours.


Chicken pox, yes, measles and mumps, no. We have deafness in an elderly family member from catching one of those at 18 months, before vaccines. To clarify, he has been deaf since 18 months old, and had vaccines existed at that time, he would not be deaf. Children also died.

These parents, and this movement, have no memory of the before times, and are making a huge mistake over vaccines, science that saved lives. A massive step back, and history will reflect this


Undoubtedly there are people who suffer negative effects from illnesses. The thing to consider is the risk of these versus the risk of vaccine injury. People have the right to do their own research and make this determination for themselves.


What if no one got vaccinated?


Please take a history class. Read up on the Middle Ages. Talk to your grandparents about polio and scarlet fever. Look up pictures of iron lungs. Find a chart on childhood deceases and historic life expectancies.
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