Chicago's new Provisional Acceptance program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster (or posters) on there who now call anyone who posts about Chicago admissions practices as a "Chicago hater."

None of us hate Chicago. The simply do a lot of things with admissions that are not done by other top20 schools:

-ED0
-practice of regularly taking middle-of-the-pack kids who apply ED from some private high schools
-new guaranteed transfer program (which has been done for years by Cornell)

Huh? I know many bright students who attend Chicago and they are at the top of their game. Definitely not middle-of-the-pack kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

DP. It appears to me that you don’t know much about game theory, PP! And before you jump all over me, I do have a PhD in economics from a top 3 school (not UChicago) with a specialization in theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

PP isn't entirely wrong. UChicago is just playing the hand it was dealt with; they would lose kids to top Ivys if competing for them without these tactics. They have to use gamesmanship to get as many full pay, smart kids through the door as possible, which they appear to be doing successfully. And none of this detracts from the fact that the school is truly a great research university. If anything, their strategy will likely pay dividend with a robust alumni base in the future. Also, having a school where the admissions outcome for a bright, high stat kid is more predictable than some isn't a bad thing. With so much criticism lobbed at UChicago, perhaps its worth scrutinizing others as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

PP isn't entirely wrong. UChicago is just playing the hand it was dealt with; they would lose kids to top Ivys if competing for them without these tactics. They have to use gamesmanship to get as many full pay, smart kids through the door as possible, which they appear to be doing successfully. And none of this detracts from the fact that the school is truly a great research university. If anything, their strategy will likely pay dividend with a robust alumni base in the future. Also, having a school where the admissions outcome for a bright, high stat kid is more predictable than some isn't a bad thing. With so much criticism lobbed at UChicago, perhaps its worth scrutinizing others as well.

I fully agree with you. Always surprised how the same people who dump on UChicago have no issues with Princeton and Brown accepting athletes with 1200 SAT scores (yes, you can see that on Scoir!).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

DP. It appears to me that you don’t know much about game theory, PP! And before you jump all over me, I do have a PhD in economics from a top 3 school (not UChicago) with a specialization in theory.

DP. I agree Game Theory played well. Even with the close locations of JHU, UPenn, Georgetown, ... Chicago still gets similar percentage despite the distance. DCUM tried to game the system - U Chicago countered; I think the complaint is that the DCUM Game isn't working against U Chicago.

[Anonymous]

I know someone who was shut out of the Ivys with a 1600. Took this option from Chicago and is doing great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who was shut out of the Ivys with a 1600. Took this option from Chicago and is doing great.

But … I thought the purpose of this program was to keep low-stats kids out of the school profile. Why not just admit the 1600 kid as a freshman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who was shut out of the Ivys with a 1600. Took this option from Chicago and is doing great.

But … I thought the purpose of this program was to keep low-stats kids out of the school profile. Why not just admit the 1600 kid as a freshman?

Just because someone on Reddit said that was the purpose of the program doesn’t make it the purpose of the program!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

PP isn't entirely wrong. UChicago is just playing the hand it was dealt with; they would lose kids to top Ivys if competing for them without these tactics. They have to use gamesmanship to get as many full pay, smart kids through the door as possible, which they appear to be doing successfully. And none of this detracts from the fact that the school is truly a great research university. If anything, their strategy will likely pay dividend with a robust alumni base in the future. Also, having a school where the admissions outcome for a bright, high stat kid is more predictable than some isn't a bad thing. With so much criticism lobbed at UChicago, perhaps its worth scrutinizing others as well.

I fully agree with you. Always surprised how the same people who dump on UChicago have no issues with Princeton and Brown accepting athletes with 1200 SAT scores (yes, you can see that on Scoir!).

THIS scores are so low on Scoir for DEI, mid 20s! I was beyond floored but hidden secret...can't talk about it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

PP isn't entirely wrong. UChicago is just playing the hand it was dealt with; they would lose kids to top Ivys if competing for them without these tactics. They have to use gamesmanship to get as many full pay, smart kids through the door as possible, which they appear to be doing successfully. And none of this detracts from the fact that the school is truly a great research university. If anything, their strategy will likely pay dividend with a robust alumni base in the future. Also, having a school where the admissions outcome for a bright, high stat kid is more predictable than some isn't a bad thing. With so much criticism lobbed at UChicago, perhaps its worth scrutinizing others as well.

I fully agree with you. Always surprised how the same people who dump on UChicago have no issues with Princeton and Brown accepting athletes with 1200 SAT scores (yes, you can see that on Scoir!).

How do you know they are the same people?

That’s right. You don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duke has ED and RD.
Princeton has single-choice early action and RD.

Chicago has SSEN or ED0, ED1, EA, ED2, RD and now provisional acceptance. Is it all just a game to them?

Yes, it's game theory, don't hate the players, hate the game (admissions process). For the home of Economics, this is what they do, I admire it, super smart to match university/student. This is an intellectual approach of matching, from one of the most intellectual places. For those that don't know, game theory is the mathematical study of strategic interactions between rational decision-makers. This is what every college should be doing. They are just outsmarting you lol

You don't know what game theory is, do you?

DP. It appears to me that you don’t know much about game theory, PP! And before you jump all over me, I do have a PhD in economics from a top 3 school (not UChicago) with a specialization in theory.

DP. I agree Game Theory played well. Even with the close locations of JHU, UPenn, Georgetown, ... Chicago still gets similar percentage despite the distance. DCUM tried to game the system - U Chicago countered; I think the complaint is that the DCUM Game isn't working against U Chicago.

Odd that you think UChicago is aware that DCUM exists.

[Anonymous]

I've posted on here several times about how Chicago accepts middle-of-the-pack kids (as well as top kids) from some top privates as this was our experience and is pretty helpful for those coming from these schools to know.

I'm also not the only one who has posted this as I've only mentioned this twice and I haven't ever posted anything else negative about the school. I've been accused of being a Chicago hater.

[Anonymous]

I think there is a team of Chicago PR on DCUM. They must be tracking any Chicago related threads. Show up immediately any minute Chicago was discussed, then accusing any one having honest opinions as haters.

If they pay a million to their AOs, I would not be surprised that they are doing PR on several prominent college related forums including DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there is a team of Chicago PR on DCUM. They must be tracking any Chicago related threads. Show up immediately any minute Chicago was discussed, then accusing any one having honest opinions as haters.

If they pay a million to their AOs, I would not be surprised that they are doing PR on several prominent college related forums including DCUM.

This is hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've posted on here several times about how Chicago accepts middle-of-the-pack kids (as well as top kids) from some top privates as this was our experience and is pretty helpful for those coming from these schools to know.

I'm also not the only one who has posted this as I've only mentioned this twice and I haven't ever posted anything else negative about the school. I've been accused of being a Chicago hater.

I have no double that the statement is true for some schools. In fact, at DC’s private school, it is Columbia and Dartmouth that accept middle-of-the-pack kids.