Western High School Renovations/Construction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way logistically the sports thing will work.

Busing kids from Western after school to multiple different high schools and then back again? Here's just one example: the freshman and JV basketball teams leave right after school on a bus to get to away games on time. There is no give in the schedule to wait for a bus from Western to drive over 1 student to the base school to then get on the basketball bus. I can think of a hundred more logistical problems.

The coaches at base schools will just not take "western" kids to avoid the hassle.

HB Woodlawn and Arlington Tech in Arlington don’t have sports teams and the kids can play for Yorktown, W-L, or Wakefield.

That's not relevant to FCPS logistics. In pp's example, freshman basketball games are played at 4:30. They have to be there by 4:00. The game might be 45 minutes away. The bus has to leave the base school at 3:15. There is no time to get 2 randoms from Western to say Oakton or Centreville in time to make that away bus.

And are they transporting back after games and practices? That is a LOT of buses and routes for 1-2 kids. What about sports practices and games that aren't right after school, are they providing transportation for those also?

But Arlington schools also play Fairfax teams, and Herndon is one of the FCPS schools in the same VHSL district as the three Arlington high schools.

So at least in theory an HB Woodlawn kid whose base school is Wakefield could be playing a freshman basketball game in Herndon at 4:30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, the transportation back to the base school is a joke. Also, if you are in a cut sport why would a coach keep a kid in the program if they were going to move to another school to play on their team in a year or two? Those kids will be cut or left on the bench to rot.

Agree, if my kid wants to play football and he’s at the new school no way the freshman football coach will play him over a kid that will remain at the base school. It actually would be bad coaching if the coaches did play those kids. They should be developing kids for their school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way logistically the sports thing will work.

Busing kids from Western after school to multiple different high schools and then back again? Here's just one example: the freshman and JV basketball teams leave right after school on a bus to get to away games on time. There is no give in the schedule to wait for a bus from Western to drive over 1 student to the base school to then get on the basketball bus. I can think of a hundred more logistical problems.

The coaches at base schools will just not take "western" kids to avoid the hassle.

HB Woodlawn and Arlington Tech in Arlington don’t have sports teams and the kids can play for Yorktown, W-L, or Wakefield.

That's not relevant to FCPS logistics. In pp's example, freshman basketball games are played at 4:30. They have to be there by 4:00. The game might be 45 minutes away. The bus has to leave the base school at 3:15. There is no time to get 2 randoms from Western to say Oakton or Centreville in time to make that away bus.

And are they transporting back after games and practices? That is a LOT of buses and routes for 1-2 kids. What about sports practices and games that aren't right after school, are they providing transportation for those also?

But Arlington schools also play Fairfax teams, and Herndon is one of the FCPS schools in the same VHSL district as the three Arlington high schools.

So at least in theory an HB Woodlawn kid whose base school is Wakefield could be playing a freshman basketball game in Herndon at 4:30.

In theory

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, the transportation back to the base school is a joke. Also, if you are in a cut sport why would a coach keep a kid in the program if they were going to move to another school to play on their team in a year or two? Those kids will be cut or left on the bench to rot.

Agree, if my kid wants to play football and he’s at the new school no way the freshman football coach will play him over a kid that will remain at the base school. It actually would be bad coaching if the coaches did play those kids. They should be developing kids for their school.

Parents will not let that happen, there will be lawsuits if that happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, the transportation back to the base school is a joke. Also, if you are in a cut sport why would a coach keep a kid in the program if they were going to move to another school to play on their team in a year or two? Those kids will be cut or left on the bench to rot.

Agree, if my kid wants to play football and he’s at the new school no way the freshman football coach will play him over a kid that will remain at the base school. It actually would be bad coaching if the coaches did play those kids. They should be developing kids for their school.

Parents will not let that happen, there will be lawsuits if that happens.

Yeah.

Let’s not have a Hayfield 3.0 if y’all know what my azz means

[Anonymous]

How can you tell a coach who to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How can you tell a coach who to play.

You don’t.

The coach off a roster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, the transportation back to the base school is a joke. Also, if you are in a cut sport why would a coach keep a kid in the program if they were going to move to another school to play on their team in a year or two? Those kids will be cut or left on the bench to rot.

Agree, if my kid wants to play football and he’s at the new school no way the freshman football coach will play him over a kid that will remain at the base school. It actually would be bad coaching if the coaches did play those kids. They should be developing kids for their school.

Parents will not let that happen, there will be lawsuits if that happens.

Yeah.

Let’s not have a Hayfield 3.0 if y’all know what my azz means

With any luck, that will not happen if FCPS pulls it together and makes this school and surrounding community come together

[Anonymous]

Opening a new school not physically designed for FCPS class sizes, figuring out sports and other extracurricular activities kids need as ECs on college applications, etc., require logistics and planning. Skills not evidenced to date by Reid or the crack team at Gatehouse.

Look for more no bid spending on contractors who don’t have a clue to help out.

Wonder if these schools will have bathroom facilities and locker rooms for those transitioning genders?

[Anonymous]

Reid has f’ed this up beyond repair. This school will struggle for years due to how they’ve started it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Opening a new school not physically designed for FCPS class sizes, figuring out sports and other extracurricular activities kids need as ECs on college applications, etc., require logistics and planning. Skills not evidenced to date by Reid or the crack team at Gatehouse.

Look for more no bid spending on contractors who don’t have a clue to help out.

Wonder if these schools will have bathroom facilities and locker rooms for those transitioning genders?

I’m with you on that completely and have no idea as to how they will do it if they do it at all as these people show no ability to do meaningful things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, the transportation back to the base school is a joke. Also, if you are in a cut sport why would a coach keep a kid in the program if they were going to move to another school to play on their team in a year or two? Those kids will be cut or left on the bench to rot.

Agree, if my kid wants to play football and he’s at the new school no way the freshman football coach will play him over a kid that will remain at the base school. It actually would be bad coaching if the coaches did play those kids. They should be developing kids for their school.

Parents will not let that happen, there will be lawsuits if that happens.

LOL! There is no legal cause of action for a kid not being selected for a team, or not played.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no way logistically the sports thing will work.

Busing kids from Western after school to multiple different high schools and then back again? Here's just one example: the freshman and JV basketball teams leave right after school on a bus to get to away games on time. There is no give in the schedule to wait for a bus from Western to drive over 1 student to the base school to then get on the basketball bus. I can think of a hundred more logistical problems.

The coaches at base schools will just not take "western" kids to avoid the hassle.

HB Woodlawn and Arlington Tech in Arlington don’t have sports teams and the kids can play for Yorktown, W-L, or Wakefield.

That's not relevant to FCPS logistics. In pp's example, freshman basketball games are played at 4:30. They have to be there by 4:00. The game might be 45 minutes away. The bus has to leave the base school at 3:15. There is no time to get 2 randoms from Western to say Oakton or Centreville in time to make that away bus.

And are they transporting back after games and practices? That is a LOT of buses and routes for 1-2 kids. What about sports practices and games that aren't right after school, are they providing transportation for those also?

But Arlington schools also play Fairfax teams, and Herndon is one of the FCPS schools in the same VHSL district as the three Arlington high schools.

So at least in theory an HB Woodlawn kid whose base school is Wakefield could be playing a freshman basketball game in Herndon at 4:30.

I'm honestly stumped as to how, logistically, a kid gets from Woodlawn to Wakefield to make the bus that has to be in Herndon by 4:00. Woodlawn apparently doesn't get out until 3:50 pm. Wakefield is out at 3:10. Does Arlington send one bus to pick up one kid who leaves class early at Woodlawn, and transports him to Wakefield? Then when the freshman bus returns from Herndon at some point, is there a bus waiting just for him to take him back to Woodlawn? It makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They bought a building custom built for small class sizes typical of a high end private school, not a 30 person public school. So internal modifications, possibly extensive will be necessary. Don’t really expect it to be used in the fall of 2026. At least not if someone from FCPS is in charge of the renovation.

Bingo. They might luck out if they retain a good contractor, but retaining good contractors hasn’t exactly been Reid’s strong point. Just look at the incompetent clowns from Thru Consulting.

They can do cobstruction with students in the building, just like they did with WSHS.

It was a little bit inconvenient, but no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard renovations will take place for the first 2-3 years.

Thats going to be hard for the kids.

When will FCPS begin community presentations detailing what will be done and how it will be done.

I’m scared our kids will be in Trailers and that those will tarnish their first impressions of the new high school.

It is not that hard.

They did it with 2500 students present at WSHS.

The construction crews wall off the section they are working on, closing or opening one zone at a time as they start or complete each section.

Other than traffic patterns changing (with plenty of advance notice) it really was not that difficult for students.

This campus is in MUCH better shape than WSHS, with far less extensive updates needed. The process should go very smoothly and quickly, especially if they hire a strong contractor like the one who renovated WSHS.