Low needs ASD - planning for future

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Anonymous wrote:NP here and I have no dog in this fight but I agree that most physicians would sign the disability certification for any autism dx, since it by definition is a disorder that impairs social interaction and communication. I have a ds with CP and he is less impaired in many ways than someone with a level 1 ASD dx. He is 6 yo and can ride a bike, swim, climb in a climbing gym better than his peers, etc. He has a normal range IQ, has age appropriate handwriting, good social skills, can dress himself and uses the toilet independently, etc. There was no question he qualified for a CARES account.

Sorry you have to read the form. Physical disability is different.
https://cdn.unite529.com/jcdn/files/UABLE/pdfs/dc-enrollment.pdf

The NP again - Code 4 is or CP but Code 1 is for autism. You will note it even includes "Aspergers" which is essential the old name for level 1 ASD. They don't have different requirements based on what code you check off.

You don’t just check the box. You ALSO have to meet the enrollment criteria that they disability causes “marked and severe function limitations.”

The diagnosis of autism is the qualifying criteria for this.

It’s not. read the enrollment criteria below.

It is, it literally says that. It is saying the dx, one of which listed above is autism (dx by dr) is the qualifier.

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continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here and I have no dog in this fight but I agree that most physicians would sign the disability certification for any autism dx, since it by definition is a disorder that impairs social interaction and communication. I have a ds with CP and he is less impaired in many ways than someone with a level 1 ASD dx. He is 6 yo and can ride a bike, swim, climb in a climbing gym better than his peers, etc. He has a normal range IQ, has age appropriate handwriting, good social skills, can dress himself and uses the toilet independently, etc. There was no question he qualified for a CARES account.

Sorry you have to read the form. Physical disability is different.
https://cdn.unite529.com/jcdn/files/UABLE/pdfs/dc-enrollment.pdf

The NP again - Code 4 is or CP but Code 1 is for autism. You will note it even includes "Aspergers" which is essential the old name for level 1 ASD. They don't have different requirements based on what code you check off.

You don’t just check the box. You ALSO have to meet the enrollment criteria that they disability causes “marked and severe function limitations.”

The diagnosis of autism is the qualifying criteria for this.

It’s not. read the enrollment criteria below.

It is, it literally says that. It is saying the dx, one of which listed above is autism (dx by dr) is the qualifier.

You have to read the entire form. You don’t just check the box. A doctor has to certify the severity of the diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

Read all of section C

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The statute itself says that a doctor must certify: “the individual has a medically determinable physical or mental impairment, which results in marked and severe functional limitations”. 26 USC 529A

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Anonymous wrote: continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

Read all of section C

I have, and explained it above. You are trying to add in extra of your...opinion?...that is not actually part of the qualification-again, it's clearly listed that the diagnosis of autism is the qualifier.

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Anonymous wrote: continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

Read all of section C

I have, and explained it above. You are trying to add in extra of your...opinion?...that is not actually part of the qualification-again, it's clearly listed that the diagnosis of autism is the qualifier.

1. The statute which I quoted states the requirement.

2. part B and C of the form are *both* required. In B you indicate the type of disability. In C you certify that a doctor has found the disability causes marked and severe functional limitations. Then you also attest to the truthfulness of those representations at the bottom.

If you don’t grasp this you probably shouldn’t be pretending to give legal or tax advice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

Read all of section C

I have, and explained it above. You are trying to add in extra of your...opinion?...that is not actually part of the qualification-again, it's clearly listed that the diagnosis of autism is the qualifier.

1. The statute which I quoted states the requirement.

2. part B and C of the form are *both* required. In B you indicate the type of disability. In C you certify that a doctor has found the disability causes marked and severe functional limitations. Then you also attest to the truthfulness of those representations at the bottom.

If you don’t grasp this you probably shouldn’t be pretending to give legal or tax advice.

THE DIAGNOSIS IS THE DISABILITY THAT CAUSES MARKED AND SEVERE FUNCTIONAL LIMITATIONS, ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE ABLE PLANS.

Nowhere does it say 'you have to have a lot of autism (or cp or epilepsy or whatever dx) to be eligble'. A lot or a little autism isn't even the dx- it's 'autism'.

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Oh, and regardless of whether or not you 'think' any particular level of autism causes disability or not-the ABLE act is clearly written so that the diagnosis is the qualification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote: continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

Read all of section C

I have, and explained it above. You are trying to add in extra of your...opinion?...that is not actually part of the qualification-again, it's clearly listed that the diagnosis of autism is the qualifier.

1. The statute which I quoted states the requirement.

2. part B and C of the form are *both* required. In B you indicate the type of disability. In C you certify that a doctor has found the disability causes marked and severe functional limitations. Then you also attest to the truthfulness of those representations at the bottom.

If you don’t grasp this you probably shouldn’t be pretending to give legal or tax advice.

THE DIAGNOSIS IS THE DISABILITY THAT CAUSES MARKED AND SEVERE FUNCTIONAL LIMITATIONS, ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE ABLE PLANS.

Nowhere does it say 'you have to have a lot of autism (or cp or epilepsy or whatever dx) to be eligble'. A lot or a little autism isn't even the dx- it's 'autism'.

You’re just … totally wrong. There is a list of “per se” diagnosis that don’t require the certification of severe and market limitations (the SSI “compassionate” list). Autism isn’t on that list.

Anyway good luck to you, and everyone else, please consult a tax professional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Oh, and regardless of whether or not you 'think' any particular level of autism causes disability or not-the ABLE act is clearly written so that the diagnosis is the qualification.

lol OK. Please show your work with the statutory analysis

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Oh, and regardless of whether or not you 'think' any particular level of autism causes disability or not-the ABLE act is clearly written so that the diagnosis is the qualification.

lol OK. Please show your work with the statutory analysis

Sure- I read the link YOU posted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Oh, and regardless of whether or not you 'think' any particular level of autism causes disability or not-the ABLE act is clearly written so that the diagnosis is the qualification.

lol OK. Please show your work with the statutory analysis

Sure- I read the link YOU posted.

Show your work.

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It's the text of the link YOU posted. Do you want a picture of me reading it?

As far as taxes - I have not commented on that. It varies by state so you would need to check the plan you wish to enroll in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: continued - Part B on pg 3 lists the Codes for the Disability, autism is under Code one, autism is the disability that qualifies under Section C.

Read all of section C

I have, and explained it above. You are trying to add in extra of your...opinion?...that is not actually part of the qualification-again, it's clearly listed that the diagnosis of autism is the qualifier.

1. The statute which I quoted states the requirement.

2. part B and C of the form are *both* required. In B you indicate the type of disability. In C you certify that a doctor has found the disability causes marked and severe functional limitations. Then you also attest to the truthfulness of those representations at the bottom.

If you don’t grasp this you probably shouldn’t be pretending to give legal or tax advice.

THE DIAGNOSIS IS THE DISABILITY THAT CAUSES MARKED AND SEVERE FUNCTIONAL LIMITATIONS, ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE ABLE PLANS.

Nowhere does it say 'you have to have a lot of autism (or cp or epilepsy or whatever dx) to be eligble'. A lot or a little autism isn't even the dx- it's 'autism'.

You’re just … totally wrong. There is a list of “per se” diagnosis that don’t require the certification of severe and market limitations (the SSI “compassionate” list). Autism isn’t on that list.

Anyway good luck to you, and everyone else, please consult a tax professional.

That's because autism is on the list of qualifying dx! Why is this going over your head?