$25 min wage in DC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sound economic policy, which this is not, is simply beyond the grasp of the average or below average person.

Why don’t you explain it to us sweetheart?

This will just drive prices up for everyone. If people at the very bottom now make a minimum of $25, then everyone else's wages will go up accordingly because everyone will say what about me. If everyone suddenly has a lot more money to spend, then prices for everything will also go up accordingly. A pint of beer will cost $25 and the dishwasher making $25 an hour will not be any better off.

Just as I suspected, a bunch of BS completely made up by you. Got forbid people on the bottom make a living wage. Have to keep those suppressed so you can have cheap beer.

Sweetie, this is how inflation works.

It's really not. you have no idea what you're talking about. Raising minimum wage puts more money in people's pockets, which they pump into the economy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine having to pay some teenager the equivalent of roughly $55k per year just to wash dishes or scrub toilets:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/workers-labor-advocates-call-for-dc-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-25/4025867/

R.I.P. DC economy. No am I going to pay $100/entree for mediocre food or, $900/night for a garbage hotel simply because businesses have to cover out control labor costs.

No teenagers are washing dishes or scrubbing toilets.

And BTW, why shouldn't people who do those jobs earn that much? Those are hard jobs. They certainly have more importance and value than, say, lobbying, consulting, private equity or being a legislative aide.

But, oh, wait, you were TROLLING, weren't you?

What a moronic take. What is the dollar value generated by a high performing employee in private equity vs a high performing toilet scrubber?

I wonder what percentage of posts on this board are done by high school and college students.

I work with lobbyists and value my cleaning lady way more than the lobbyists I work with. She brings way more value than whatever industry cause your precious lobbyists are pushing.

And BTW, I’ve been paying her way more than $25 an hour for a long time.

No she really doesn’t.

I have an idea. Let’s shut down all the large, medium sized, and small companies in the US and re employ the entire workforce as cleaning ladies and men.

We’ll have the greatest economy in history!

Who is talking about companies? I am comparing lobbyists to my cleaning lady. I stand behind what I said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sound economic policy, which this is not, is simply beyond the grasp of the average or below average person.

Why don’t you explain it to us sweetheart?

This will just drive prices up for everyone. If people at the very bottom now make a minimum of $25, then everyone else's wages will go up accordingly because everyone will say what about me. If everyone suddenly has a lot more money to spend, then prices for everything will also go up accordingly. A pint of beer will cost $25 and the dishwasher making $25 an hour will not be any better off.

It's less "what about me" but more "now I can afford more." So, the dishwasher renting a room, now rents an apartment. Suddenly, there's a shortage of apartments because the market is artificially constrained by zoning. Prices of apartments go up. The person renting the room, no longer needs to rent the room to get by. Rooms for rent disappear from the market.

Oh FFS, so we HAVE to make sure a certain percentage of people never make enough money in order for you to keep the housing market going. That is such BS. Why is housing unaffordable to college grads and people making decent money then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sound economic policy, which this is not, is simply beyond the grasp of the average or below average person.

Why don’t you explain it to us sweetheart?

This will just drive prices up for everyone. If people at the very bottom now make a minimum of $25, then everyone else's wages will go up accordingly because everyone will say what about me. If everyone suddenly has a lot more money to spend, then prices for everything will also go up accordingly. A pint of beer will cost $25 and the dishwasher making $25 an hour will not be any better off.

It's less "what about me" but more "now I can afford more." So, the dishwasher renting a room, now rents an apartment. Suddenly, there's a shortage of apartments because the market is artificially constrained by zoning. Prices of apartments go up. The person renting the room, no longer needs to rent the room to get by. Rooms for rent disappear from the market.

Oh FFS, so we HAVE to make sure a certain percentage of people never make enough money in order for you to keep the housing market going. That is such BS. Why is housing unaffordable to college grads and people making decent money then?

No. You need to build enough housing to keep the housing prices from inflating if you dump more money into the housing market.

It's the same reason that giving money, a grant, to new home buyers to help them buy a home fails. It only increases demand on the existing housing market and drives up the low end prices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sound economic policy, which this is not, is simply beyond the grasp of the average or below average person.

Why don’t you explain it to us sweetheart?

This will just drive prices up for everyone. If people at the very bottom now make a minimum of $25, then everyone else's wages will go up accordingly because everyone will say what about me. If everyone suddenly has a lot more money to spend, then prices for everything will also go up accordingly. A pint of beer will cost $25 and the dishwasher making $25 an hour will not be any better off.

Just as I suspected, a bunch of BS completely made up by you. Got forbid people on the bottom make a living wage. Have to keep those suppressed so you can have cheap beer.

Sweetie, this is how inflation works.

It's really not. you have no idea what you're talking about. Raising minimum wage puts more money in people's pockets, which they pump into the economy.

Raising minimum wage puts more people out of a job. The number of jobs isn’t fixed. Only jobs that produce $25 of value per hour will exist after the transition and any laborer who’s labor does not produce value at that rate will be left out

[Anonymous]

Why only $25/hr?

That’s not really a sustainable, living wage. It just puts you at the top of the poverty heap. Too much income to qualify for assistance but not enough to sustain yourself.


Unless the minimum wage is $75+/hr, it’s not even worth discussing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a formula for driving up inflation. If you have to pay the dishwasher $25 an hour, then everyone in DC doing other, more skilled things who currently makes $25 will demand commensurate increased in their wages. And then if they get $40 an hour, then people who currently make $40 an hour will demand $60. It will continue up the chain, and then prices on everything will rise accordingly because of all the money sloshing around. Going out to eat will cost $300 and then the dishwasher making $25 an hour will complain that everything is still unaffordable.

Just because people demand something doesn’t mean they need to get it.

Stop holding the poor hostage in order to placate the middles who need to feel like they’re better than some earning minimum wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine having to pay some teenager the equivalent of roughly $55k per year just to wash dishes or scrub toilets:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/workers-labor-advocates-call-for-dc-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-25/4025867/

R.I.P. DC economy. No am I going to pay $100/entree for mediocre food or, $900/night for a garbage hotel simply because businesses have to cover out control labor costs.

No teenagers are washing dishes or scrubbing toilets.

And BTW, why shouldn't people who do those jobs earn that much? Those are hard jobs. They certainly have more importance and value than, say, lobbying, consulting, private equity or being a legislative aide.

But, oh, wait, you were TROLLING, weren't you?

You know what's hard? Clearing debris out of a field like rolling stones and moving logs. Just because it is hard doesnt mean it is valuable. It requires zero mental aptitude and zero special skills like carpentry or electrical knowledge. Why should we over reward low skill, low knowledge jobs?

Because they’re far more important than carpentry, electrical or clearing debris from a field.

You like clean bathrooms and plates, amrite? You value those more than a mitre cut doorframe? You certainly use them more frequently.

High knowledge jobs aren’t valuable. Someone who does, say, content marketing or is a lawyer or accountant is not nearly as important to society as people who clean toilets and dishes.

What did communists use before candles?

Electricity.

Huh?

Are you drunk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why only $25/hr?

That’s not really a sustainable, living wage. It just puts you at the top of the poverty heap. Too much income to qualify for assistance but not enough to sustain yourself.


Unless the minimum wage is $75+/hr, it’s not even worth discussing.

I will happily go back to my cashier job from high school for that. No stress, no real thinking required, job ends when my shift ends. I’ll take it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine having to pay some teenager the equivalent of roughly $55k per year just to wash dishes or scrub toilets:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/workers-labor-advocates-call-for-dc-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-25/4025867/

R.I.P. DC economy. No am I going to pay $100/entree for mediocre food or, $900/night for a garbage hotel simply because businesses have to cover out control labor costs.

No teenagers are washing dishes or scrubbing toilets.

And BTW, why shouldn't people who do those jobs earn that much? Those are hard jobs. They certainly have more importance and value than, say, lobbying, consulting, private equity or being a legislative aide.

But, oh, wait, you were TROLLING, weren't you?

You know what's hard? Clearing debris out of a field like rolling stones and moving logs. Just because it is hard doesnt mean it is valuable. It requires zero mental aptitude and zero special skills like carpentry or electrical knowledge. Why should we over reward low skill, low knowledge jobs?

Because they’re far more important than carpentry, electrical or clearing debris from a field.

You like clean bathrooms and plates, amrite? You value those more than a mitre cut doorframe? You certainly use them more frequently.

High knowledge jobs aren’t valuable. Someone who does, say, content marketing or is a lawyer or accountant is not nearly as important to society as people who clean toilets and dishes.

What did communists use before candles?

Electricity.

It’s communism for people to make enough money to live near their work. Proper capitalism requires a soul-grinding commute to remind workers of their natural inferiority.

Renting a room is living where you work. It's communism to believe that a dishwasher's salary should be able to support a family of four without additional government assistance.

There are plenty of dishwashers struggling to do just that - raise a family. If “communism” is what will allow them to do that better, then how in good conscience can ANYONE reject a socialist planned economic model?

You literally just made the point (that anyone with an education already knew) that communism is THE ONLY WAY this country survives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why only $25/hr?

That’s not really a sustainable, living wage. It just puts you at the top of the poverty heap. Too much income to qualify for assistance but not enough to sustain yourself.


Unless the minimum wage is $75+/hr, it’s not even worth discussing.

I will happily go back to my cashier job from high school for that. No stress, no real thinking required, job ends when my shift ends. I’ll take it!

You could do that now in your current job, maga dummy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine having to pay some teenager the equivalent of roughly $55k per year just to wash dishes or scrub toilets:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/workers-labor-advocates-call-for-dc-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-25/4025867/

R.I.P. DC economy. No am I going to pay $100/entree for mediocre food or, $900/night for a garbage hotel simply because businesses have to cover out control labor costs.

No teenagers are washing dishes or scrubbing toilets.

And BTW, why shouldn't people who do those jobs earn that much? Those are hard jobs. They certainly have more importance and value than, say, lobbying, consulting, private equity or being a legislative aide.

But, oh, wait, you were TROLLING, weren't you?

You know what's hard? Clearing debris out of a field like rolling stones and moving logs. Just because it is hard doesnt mean it is valuable. It requires zero mental aptitude and zero special skills like carpentry or electrical knowledge. Why should we over reward low skill, low knowledge jobs?

Because they’re far more important than carpentry, electrical or clearing debris from a field.

You like clean bathrooms and plates, amrite? You value those more than a mitre cut doorframe? You certainly use them more frequently.

High knowledge jobs aren’t valuable. Someone who does, say, content marketing or is a lawyer or accountant is not nearly as important to society as people who clean toilets and dishes.

What did communists use before candles?

Electricity.

Huh?

Are you drunk?

And this is a politics forum. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine having to pay some teenager the equivalent of roughly $55k per year just to wash dishes or scrub toilets:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/workers-labor-advocates-call-for-dc-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-25/4025867/

R.I.P. DC economy. No am I going to pay $100/entree for mediocre food or, $900/night for a garbage hotel simply because businesses have to cover out control labor costs.

No teenagers are washing dishes or scrubbing toilets.

And BTW, why shouldn't people who do those jobs earn that much? Those are hard jobs. They certainly have more importance and value than, say, lobbying, consulting, private equity or being a legislative aide.

But, oh, wait, you were TROLLING, weren't you?

You know what's hard? Clearing debris out of a field like rolling stones and moving logs. Just because it is hard doesnt mean it is valuable. It requires zero mental aptitude and zero special skills like carpentry or electrical knowledge. Why should we over reward low skill, low knowledge jobs?

Because they’re far more important than carpentry, electrical or clearing debris from a field.

You like clean bathrooms and plates, amrite? You value those more than a mitre cut doorframe? You certainly use them more frequently.

High knowledge jobs aren’t valuable. Someone who does, say, content marketing or is a lawyer or accountant is not nearly as important to society as people who clean toilets and dishes.

What did communists use before candles?

Electricity.

It’s communism for people to make enough money to live near their work. Proper capitalism requires a soul-grinding commute to remind workers of their natural inferiority.

Renting a room is living where you work. It's communism to believe that a dishwasher's salary should be able to support a family of four without additional government assistance.

There are plenty of dishwashers struggling to do just that - raise a family. If “communism” is what will allow them to do that better, then how in good conscience can ANYONE reject a socialist planned economic model?

You literally just made the point (that anyone with an education already knew) that communism is THE ONLY WAY this country survives.

Get a better job. Dishwasher is not the highest aspiration you should have. We have machines that can wash dishes. Surely a human is more than just a menial machine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a formula for driving up inflation. If you have to pay the dishwasher $25 an hour, then everyone in DC doing other, more skilled things who currently makes $25 will demand commensurate increased in their wages. And then if they get $40 an hour, then people who currently make $40 an hour will demand $60. It will continue up the chain, and then prices on everything will rise accordingly because of all the money sloshing around. Going out to eat will cost $300 and then the dishwasher making $25 an hour will complain that everything is still unaffordable.

Just because people demand something doesn’t mean they need to get it.

Stop holding the poor hostage in order to placate the middles who need to feel like they’re better than some earning minimum wage.

EXACTLY!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sound economic policy, which this is not, is simply beyond the grasp of the average or below average person.

Why don’t you explain it to us sweetheart?

This will just drive prices up for everyone. If people at the very bottom now make a minimum of $25, then everyone else's wages will go up accordingly because everyone will say what about me. If everyone suddenly has a lot more money to spend, then prices for everything will also go up accordingly. A pint of beer will cost $25 and the dishwasher making $25 an hour will not be any better off.

Just as I suspected, a bunch of BS completely made up by you. Got forbid people on the bottom make a living wage. Have to keep those suppressed so you can have cheap beer.

Sweetie, this is how inflation works.

It's really not. you have no idea what you're talking about. Raising minimum wage puts more money in people's pockets, which they pump into the economy.

Raising minimum wage puts more people out of a job. The number of jobs isn’t fixed. Only jobs that produce $25 of value per hour will exist after the transition and any laborer who’s labor does not produce value at that rate will be left out

No, it gives people enough money so I don't have to subsidize them with my taxes. There is a reason so many people working these jobs rely on SNAP and medicaid to get though life. It's people like you who don't want to raise the min wage OR give them benefits that are the problem.