What is the market like in North Arlington?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

The problem with stretching your budget to get a $2 million house zoned for Kenmore is that your kid will go to Kenmore.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

The problem with stretching your budget to get a $2 million house zoned for Kenmore is that your kid will go to Kenmore.

This. Although isn’t Jefferson pretty bad too? What do the folks in Ashton Heights do for MS? I think their zoned elementary is worse than Ashlawn too based on GS.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

The problem with stretching your budget to get a $2 million house zoned for Kenmore is that your kid will go to Kenmore.

This. Although isn’t Jefferson pretty bad too? What do the folks in Ashton Heights do for MS? I think their zoned elementary is worse than Ashlawn too based on GS.

I live in Ashton Heights and my kids went to Long Branch - Jefferson - now W-L. Jefferson is fine except for the crappy building. I don't know any families from Long Branch who went to private school for middle school. A couple went to HB. Private school families I know started private in elementary.

The GS scores for Long Branch/Jefferson just reflect that there is a significant segment of low income housing zoned for those schools. FARM rate is 33% at Long Branch. Jefferson is reported to be 45% but that includes a Langstone program(?) and seems high for the middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

The problem with stretching your budget to get a $2 million house zoned for Kenmore is that your kid will go to Kenmore.

This. Although isn’t Jefferson pretty bad too? What do the folks in Ashton Heights do for MS? I think their zoned elementary is worse than Ashlawn too based on GS.

I live in Ashton Heights and my kids went to Long Branch - Jefferson - now W-L. Jefferson is fine except for the crappy building. I don't know any families from Long Branch who went to private school for middle school. A couple went to HB. Private school families I know started private in elementary.

The GS scores for Long Branch/Jefferson just reflect that there is a significant segment of low income housing zoned for those schools. FARM rate is 33% at Long Branch. Jefferson is reported to be 45% but that includes a Langstone program(?) and seems high for the middle school.

Sounds similar to Kenmore? Or is there something extra awful about Kenmore that people aren’t sharing? Both Jefferson and Kenmore pull from very low income areas in S Arlington but people are paying $3.5-$4M in Ashton Heights for a new build when you can drive 3 min down Rt 50 and save $1.5M.

Not crapping on Ashton Heights - I think we’ll move there next - just trying to understand the hate for Kenmore and how that impacts property values vs Jefferson and Ashton Heights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

I've lived in Arlington and Bethesda. A lot more go to private in Maryland but I think that's a factor of it being a very Catholic area as well. I personally don't know any very wealthy 22201 people who go to on IB W&L, but plenty who go to Yorktown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

The problem with stretching your budget to get a $2 million house zoned for Kenmore is that your kid will go to Kenmore.

And you'd have to stretch to $2.8 or more in 22207 for the same house.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

And that's literally the most expensive house sold in the Kenmore district in the past year. If it was in 22207 it would have been closer to $3m.

There’s 1 pending for $2.4 and another pending for $2.5 and another coming up soon right on trail for $2.45 - yes it’s cheaper than 22207 for a new build but mid 2s is nothing to scoff at - that’s still something like $15-17K / month with 20% down. All zoned for Kenmore too.

We will see what they sell for. There was a thread on here about the one that's UC listed at $2.495. I hope that area takes off. It's a nice area and walkable to Ballston. Wilson Blvd is a dump, and I'd love to see it revamped with nicer retail and restaurants.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

I've lived in Arlington and Bethesda. A lot more go to private in Maryland but I think that's a factor of it being a very Catholic area as well. I personally don't know any very wealthy 22201 people who go to on IB W&L, but plenty who go to Yorktown.

W-L students don’t have to do the IB program—there are a fair number of wealthy 22201 families (Ashton Heights/ Lyon Park) at W-L (both IB-bound or non-IB). Lyon Village now skews private for high school after Dorothy Hamm for middle school, but there are still some W-L families there as well (in addition to H-B transfers and Yorktown or Wakefield transfers). I do personally know more wealthy families at Yorktown which has a the highest concentration of wealthy and very wealthy families—not sure how many of the wealthiest of the group transfer to W-L for IB.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

The problem with stretching your budget to get a $2 million house zoned for Kenmore is that your kid will go to Kenmore.

This. Although isn’t Jefferson pretty bad too? What do the folks in Ashton Heights do for MS? I think their zoned elementary is worse than Ashlawn too based on GS.

I live in Ashton Heights and my kids went to Long Branch - Jefferson - now W-L. Jefferson is fine except for the crappy building. I don't know any families from Long Branch who went to private school for middle school. A couple went to HB. Private school families I know started private in elementary.

The GS scores for Long Branch/Jefferson just reflect that there is a significant segment of low income housing zoned for those schools. FARM rate is 33% at Long Branch. Jefferson is reported to be 45% but that includes a Langston program(?) and seems high for the middle school.

Sounds similar to Kenmore? Or is there something extra awful about Kenmore that people aren’t sharing? Both Jefferson and Kenmore pull from very low income areas in S Arlington but people are paying $3.5-$4M in Ashton Heights for a new build when you can drive 3 min down Rt 50 and save $1.5M.

Not crapping on Ashton Heights - I think we’ll move there next - just trying to understand the hate for Kenmore and how that impacts property values vs Jefferson and Ashton Heights.

I don't know about the current state but several years ago there was some well publicized bullying/fighting at Kenmore. And, last year, at least according to the VA State school quality profiles, Kenmore reports more "behaviors of a safety concern" (71) than TJ (22). And more behavior issues across all categories. Their Assessment scores are pretty similar.

https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/schools/kenmore-middle#fndtn-desktopTabs-climate
https://schoolquality.virginia.gov/schools/jefferson-middle#fndtn-desktopTabs-climate

Also, people pay more for Ashton Heights in part because it's so walkable to metro + Clarendon & Ballston.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I read wrong. If you are selling at that price point, you will most likely have a bidding war unless you are in a Kenmore or something.

A house in our neighborhood zoned for Kenmore just sold for $2.1 M. The people have three kids and other people in our neighborhood do too. The people who are afraid of exposing their kids to other cultures and economic classes are doing a disservice to them. The Gen Alphas are going to be entering an economy where most of the employers will be second or third generation immigrants -- from construction to tech to even politics, it is not the all American employer profile of even 20 years ago.

Ashlawn is wonderful (we see the kids biking to school on the Bluemont Trail and it’s like a Disney movie). W&L is great too. Kenmore isn’t great but if you’re paying $2M+ for a house and not overextending to do so, you can probably pay for private middle school. The catholics are around $10K / kid / year and you’ve got Congressional 10 min away too.

Not necessarily. I know people who paid $1.5-2.5 million by really stretching their budget. No room left for private school or vacations.

There are many wealthy families in 22207 and 22201 who could afford the cathedral schools or boarding school who stick with public through high school. There are also plenty of wealthy famliles in those neighborhoods that go upper-tier private for middle and/or high school if not earlier. It's probably no different than the Bethesda suburbs or Upper NW DC.

I've lived in Arlington and Bethesda. A lot more go to private in Maryland but I think that's a factor of it being a very Catholic area as well. I personally don't know any very wealthy 22201 people who go to on IB W&L, but plenty who go to Yorktown.

W-L students don’t have to do the IB program—there are a fair number of wealthy 22201 families (Ashton Heights/ Lyon Park) at W-L (both IB-bound or non-IB). Lyon Village now skews private for high school after Dorothy Hamm for middle school, but there are still some W-L families there as well (in addition to H-B transfers and Yorktown or Wakefield transfers). I do personally know more wealthy families at Yorktown which has a the highest concentration of wealthy and very wealthy families—not sure how many of the wealthiest of the group transfer to W-L for IB.

One virtue of being in-bound to W-L is you can pick and choose between IB and AP classes. You can do IB if it's a fit but don't have to go all in if you don't want to.

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Ashton heights is my fave neighborhood because it's walkable to Clarendon and ballston but it's not in the heavy-traffic areas. People buy there because they want to be closer to metro and walkable restaurants and D.C. than if they lived in my neighborhood in 22207 and could get more house for a bit less.

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N. Arlington is very sound. We bought our home is 2022 and it has steadily appreciated in value (quite a bit!). We did an off-market sale which helped us as first time buyers quite a bit.

We are in the tuckahoe-wms-yorktown school zone and have been very happy!

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there's a house sitting on the market on my neighborhood not selling. 22207.