Yale and Stanford require all AP scores now. Will other colleges follow?

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Anonymous wrote:If you cancel a score, the official AP score report will state that the test score was cancelled by student. So the college will know you took the AP exam but chose to cancel the score.

I don’t think that’s right for the score report the colleges see. Once cancelled, it’s permanently removed from CB records. But if you used the free score report, you need to cancel it before a set date.

CB says: “The Student Datafile and Student Score Report both contain the full AP Exam taking history for a student across multiple exam administrations. If a score is delayed or canceled, the student exam record in these two reports will include any event codes and event descriptions indicating either a delay or cancellation. All other reports only include scores that have been released, that is, not delayed or canceled.”

That’s different than what the colleges see:

From CB: “Your score report includes all your scores from all the AP Exams you took in the past. Your entire score history will be sent to your designated college, university, or scholarship program unless you choose to withhold or cancel any of your scores.”

DP How I interpret the quote above is that your score history will not include the cancelled score. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that your event history will be wiped, right?

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Anonymous wrote:If you cancel a score, the official AP score report will state that the test score was cancelled by student. So the college will know you took the AP exam but chose to cancel the score.

I don’t think that’s right for the score report the colleges see. Once cancelled, it’s permanently removed from CB records. But if you used the free score report, you need to cancel it before a set date.

CB says: “The Student Datafile and Student Score Report both contain the full AP Exam taking history for a student across multiple exam administrations. If a score is delayed or canceled, the student exam record in these two reports will include any event codes and event descriptions indicating either a delay or cancellation. All other reports only include scores that have been released, that is, not delayed or canceled.”

That’s different than what the colleges see:

From CB: “Your score report includes all your scores from all the AP Exams you took in the past. Your entire score history will be sent to your designated college, university, or scholarship program unless you choose to withhold or cancel any of your scores.”

DP How I interpret the quote above is that your score history will not include the cancelled score. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that your event history will be wiped, right?

Yes, but you don’t report the entire event history to schools, you report available scores. Colleges don’t have unlimited access to the entire record.

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Anonymous wrote:If you cancel a score, the official AP score report will state that the test score was cancelled by student. So the college will know you took the AP exam but chose to cancel the score.

I don’t think that’s right for the score report the colleges see. Once cancelled, it’s permanently removed from CB records. But if you used the free score report, you need to cancel it before a set date.

The colleges see the full score report and it will indicate score cancelled by student (without showing the score) whether or not student cancelled the test before or after the score release date. So the college will know the kid took the exam. For Stanford and MIT that require ALL AP test scores, kids should report them all even if they cancelled the score and it no longer appears on their test record.

Do you have a citation? How does your theory square with this statement by the College Board?

“The Student Datafile and Student Score Report both contain the full AP Exam taking history for a student across multiple exam administrations. If a score is delayed or canceled, the student exam record in these two reports will include any event codes and event descriptions indicating either a delay or cancellation. All other reports only include scores that have been released, that is, not delayed or canceled.”

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Anonymous wrote:Do you consider 4s a high score?

No. Not with the implicit curve that equates to a 5. Imagine if colleges gave a 4.0 for a 70% average. Although that's pretty much how hs gpa has become.

4s and 5s are great. 3s are not.

Keep telling yourself that to make above average kids sound smarter. Compare the AP pecentiles (for scores below a 5) with SAT scores. The percentile range for a 4 (i.e., 1-3) starts somewhere btw 50-60%ile.

2025 Score Distribution - %ile that got a 1-4 score
• Lang 87%, Lit 84%
• APush 86%, Euro 87%, Gov 76%
• Micro 81%, Macro 82%
• AB 80%, BC 56%
• Bio 81%, Chem 83%, Phys E&M 77%, Phys M 80%
• Foreign Lang btw 60% and 92%

SAT
• 51% 1020
• 60% 1080
• 70% 1150
• 80% 1230
• 90% 1359
• 95% 1430-1440

It is a normed test not a straight % correct score. They design it this way so a 70% is a 5 or whatever. You sound low IQ.

Also, comparing AP test scores to SAT percentiles makes no sense. The only people taking an AP test are those that have self-selected to take the test, usually after having taken the corresponding AP course. So, we're talking about students who have decided to pay money and register and actually take an expensive and usually difficult 3-hour test being compared to others who have taken that same test.