Notre Dame from non-Catholic/ non-feeder school: TO? other advice?

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Anonymous wrote:ND is 80-82% Catholic, which makes me think “why would a non-Catholic want to attend there when there are 3,000+ institutions of higher learning in the U.S.?” But, after reading this story in The Observer, I would never send a non-Catholic there. https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2024/04/a-transfer-students-thoughts-on-notre-dame-students

Sure, a single story from an unhappy transfer (who, quite frankly, sounds immature a slightly unhinged) should definitely weigh more than all OP’s other research. . . .

I read the OP’s kid is coming form a non-Catholic school rather than the kid is non-Catholic.

I didn’t even understand the article. But whatever. The kid was a transfer, meaning he wasn’t happy at his last school either. Clearly he’s the problem.

Same! What was he trying to say? It was such a garbled piece, I didn't understand the point. Sounds like he felt let down by some "two-faced" friends? My (non-Catholic) son also really liked Notre Dame. The 80% Catholic community *does* give him pause but he really liked the kids he met there and academics are top tier.

What I took from the article is that he met people who were imperfect in life (like almost everyone) who then did good things like went to Mass, worked in campus ministry, and did service work. So basically these were sinners who were repenting. The kid was clearly not a good fit for the school because he doesn't understand basic Christian values.

Another response that should give non-Catholics pause about ND.

Did you write this article? The whole think is a mess: "I was seriously disrespected by a close friend last week" without any further detail. "I have seen cheaters and sexual assaulters be accepted and praised in campus ministry for their mere involvement", as if cheaters are on par with sexual assaulters! If this writer has a serious allegation or evidence of sexual assault, that absolutely deserves to be the focus of the article, rather than the immature girl drama the writer focuses on.

If anything, the article is an indictment of ND because it is a poorly written mess.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is 80-82% Catholic, which makes me think “why would a non-Catholic want to attend there when there are 3,000+ institutions of higher learning in the U.S.?” But, after reading this story in The Observer, I would never send a non-Catholic there. https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2024/04/a-transfer-students-thoughts-on-notre-dame-students

Sure, a single story from an unhappy transfer (who, quite frankly, sounds immature a slightly unhinged) should definitely weigh more than all OP’s other research. . . .

I read the OP’s kid is coming form a non-Catholic school rather than the kid is non-Catholic.

I didn’t even understand the article. But whatever. The kid was a transfer, meaning he wasn’t happy at his last school either. Clearly he’s the problem.

Same! What was he trying to say? It was such a garbled piece, I didn't understand the point. Sounds like he felt let down by some "two-faced" friends? My (non-Catholic) son also really liked Notre Dame. The 80% Catholic community *does* give him pause but he really liked the kids he met there and academics are top tier.

What I took from the article is that he met people who were imperfect in life (like almost everyone) who then did good things like went to Mass, worked in campus ministry, and did service work. So basically these were sinners who were repenting. The kid was clearly not a good fit for the school because he doesn't understand basic Christian values.

Another response that should give non-Catholics pause about ND.

Not sure what you found offensive here. Please elaborate. Do you cringe at words like sinner and repent? If so, then yes, Catholic schools are probably not a good fit for you.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is 80-82% Catholic, which makes me think “why would a non-Catholic want to attend there when there are 3,000+ institutions of higher learning in the U.S.?” But, after reading this story in The Observer, I would never send a non-Catholic there. https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2024/04/a-transfer-students-thoughts-on-notre-dame-students

Sure, a single story from an unhappy transfer (who, quite frankly, sounds immature a slightly unhinged) should definitely weigh more than all OP’s other research. . . .

I read the OP’s kid is coming form a non-Catholic school rather than the kid is non-Catholic.

I didn’t even understand the article. But whatever. The kid was a transfer, meaning he wasn’t happy at his last school either. Clearly he’s the problem.

Amazing, actually confirming the perspective of the article. If this response was meant to reassure people that non-Catholics will have a good experience Notre Dame, it failed, and instead indicates the opposite.

Nah. I agree with the PP. Plenty of non Catholics happy at ND but the writer of the article had a gripe and clearly ND (and his prior school) was not a good fit. I hope he found a place where he could feel at home, but my suspicion is that would be tough given two strikes already.

It is interesting. When students highlight issues with other schools like Cal, Ivies, NYU, Johns Hopkins (see the thread here) people who view the school positively engage the criticisms, even admitting that some are true, but there is a defensiveness about ND, so much so that defenders personally attack the critic.

Not helping to reassure people.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is 80-82% Catholic, which makes me think “why would a non-Catholic want to attend there when there are 3,000+ institutions of higher learning in the U.S.?” But, after reading this story in The Observer, I would never send a non-Catholic there. https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2024/04/a-transfer-students-thoughts-on-notre-dame-students

Sure, a single story from an unhappy transfer (who, quite frankly, sounds immature a slightly unhinged) should definitely weigh more than all OP’s other research. . . .

I read the OP’s kid is coming form a non-Catholic school rather than the kid is non-Catholic.

I didn’t even understand the article. But whatever. The kid was a transfer, meaning he wasn’t happy at his last school either. Clearly he’s the problem.

Amazing, actually confirming the perspective of the article. If this response was meant to reassure people that non-Catholics will have a good experience Notre Dame, it failed, and instead indicates the opposite.

Nah. I agree with the PP. Plenty of non Catholics happy at ND but the writer of the article had a gripe and clearly ND (and his prior school) was not a good fit. I hope he found a place where he could feel at home, but my suspicion is that would be tough given two strikes already.

It is interesting. When students highlight issues with other schools like Cal, Ivies, NYU, Johns Hopkins (see the thread here) people who view the school positively engage the criticisms, even admitting that some are true, but there is a defensiveness about ND, so much so that defenders personally attack the critic.

Not helping to reassure people.

This is very different and clearly a personal gripe. Never hear this type of complaint from other students. If you have, by all means share and I’d be more open minded.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is 80-82% Catholic, which makes me think “why would a non-Catholic want to attend there when there are 3,000+ institutions of higher learning in the U.S.?” But, after reading this story in The Observer, I would never send a non-Catholic there. https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2024/04/a-transfer-students-thoughts-on-notre-dame-students

Sure, a single story from an unhappy transfer (who, quite frankly, sounds immature a slightly unhinged) should definitely weigh more than all OP’s other research. . . .

I read the OP’s kid is coming form a non-Catholic school rather than the kid is non-Catholic.

I didn’t even understand the article. But whatever. The kid was a transfer, meaning he wasn’t happy at his last school either. Clearly he’s the problem.

Amazing, actually confirming the perspective of the article. If this response was meant to reassure people that non-Catholics will have a good experience Notre Dame, it failed, and instead indicates the opposite.

Nah. I agree with the PP. Plenty of non Catholics happy at ND but the writer of the article had a gripe and clearly ND (and his prior school) was not a good fit. I hope he found a place where he could feel at home, but my suspicion is that would be tough given two strikes already.

It is interesting. When students highlight issues with other schools like Cal, Ivies, NYU, Johns Hopkins (see the thread here) people who view the school positively engage the criticisms, even admitting that some are true, but there is a defensiveness about ND, so much so that defenders personally attack the critic.

Not helping to reassure people.

DP: I'm sure there are a lot of two-faced people at ND. We certainly know that outwardly religious behaviors these days are no proof of moral rectitude. However, the article posted is not a serious criticism with clear examples and accusations. It is a teenage whine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why ND if not Catholic? You'll be an oddity. More than 80% of the student body is Catholic.

100% false

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Anonymous wrote:Why ND if not Catholic? You'll be an oddity. More than 80% of the student body is Catholic.

100% false

What is 100% false? ND is 82% Catholic.