W&L Appears to Remain the Most Selective College or University in Virginia

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do they mention on the tour that Robert E Lee’s corpse is in their chapel? You can see the Lee crypt along what is like a shrine to Lee here at W&L- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2zjyTvoScQ

This is actually W&L ‘s best feature.

Ask yourself folks, is this the type of person you’d want to be associated with?

I’m pretty confident that the person you are quoting is a troll.

You never know. Look up the annual Lee Jackson day parade in Lexington.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:W&M boosters have become as insufferable as UVA boosters. Why must you always try and make every thread about your school?

+1 it’s because they feel inferior and resent being considered nerdy.

+2
It never fails - someone brings up one school in particular, and the usual twits come along to compare it to either UVA or W&M. So insecure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:W&L is a great school with small class sizes and is particularly strong in political science.

The things that would give me pause:

Its extremely expensive for what you get, especially relative to other strong Va publics
It’s still a regional school in name recognition
It being partly named after Robert E Lee is a problem for me, and they had a vote to change it recently and they didn’t.
It has all the challenges of UVA traditionally: too Greek, not diverse

My friend’s daughter goes there but on a full financial need based scholarship. Otherwise, I would not pay $90k/ year to go there

$91,700. William & Mary in-state is only $46,639 for a very similar experience. OOS is $73K.

And that does not include the very high cost of participation in the Greek system, in which about 75-76% of the students at W&L participate in. https://www.wlu.edu/campus-life/student-engagement-and-leadership/student-activities-and-programs/fraternity-and-sorority-life/greek-life-resources/financial-obligations . That was the turn-off for our son when we toured.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

Yes, the Lee name is a negative, but hey: people elected a racist and convicted felon. He's even reinstalling, a statute of guess who?

The school itself is top notch in terms of SLACs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

Yes, the Lee name is a negative, but hey: people elected a racist and convicted felon. He's even reinstalling, a statute of guess who?

The school itself is top notch in terms of SLACs.

You could start by educating yourself and not throwing around stupid MSM phrases. You probably also call him - irresponsibly - a Nazi. Try using actual concrete, sensible adjectives -- and people will take your comments more seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

Yes, the Lee name is a negative, but hey: people elected a racist and convicted felon. He's even reinstalling, a statute of guess who?

The school itself is top notch in terms of SLACs.

You could start by educating yourself and not throwing around stupid MSM phrases. You probably also call him - irresponsibly - a Nazi. Try using actual concrete, sensible adjectives -- and people will take your comments more seriously.

Irrelevant because people don’t take you seriously. DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

Yes, the Lee name is a negative, but hey: people elected a racist and convicted felon. He's even reinstalling, a statute of guess who?

The school itself is top notch in terms of SLACs.

You could start by educating yourself and not throwing around stupid MSM phrases. You probably also call him - irresponsibly - a Nazi. Try using actual concrete, sensible adjectives -- and people will take your comments more seriously.

Irrelevant because people don’t take you seriously. DP

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

Yes, the Lee name is a negative, but hey: people elected a racist and convicted felon. He's even reinstalling, a statute of guess who?

The school itself is top notch in terms of SLACs.

You could start by educating yourself and not throwing around stupid MSM phrases. You probably also call him - irresponsibly - a Nazi. Try using actual concrete, sensible adjectives -- and people will take your comments more seriously.

Trump is a racist.

Trump is a convicted felon.

You can’t handle the truth!

Grow up. Start reading. Turn off MSM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is there now. She is not southern, not elitist wealthy, not conservative, she didn’t join a sorority. She loves it there. She loves the classes, the professors. She has friends from all income levels, races and religions. She gets opportunities to work with professors even as a freshman that aren’t available at larger universities. All her classes are <20 students. When she was ill and missed 2 class days her freshman year, several of her professors checked in with her to make sure she was ok. You definitely don’t get that at a larger university.

This is PP who started there in ‘85. I think it’s a very different place now.

My class was the first that included women, and my freshman dorm hall included only one boy who wasn’t a WASP southerner - an Italian guy from NYC who spent a lot of time sharpening a big hunting knife and talking about hating Puerto Ricans. My first social event on campus — the day I arrived — was an off campus KA keg party/skeet shooting event with lots of drunk boys, guns and confederate flags. I grew up with guns and got lots of training on shooting and gun safety, and seeing a guy staggering around with a beer in his hand and a .45 holstered on his hip (no idea why - you can’t shoot skeet with a pistol) freaked me out.

It's 2025.

Yes, it's much different now.

Thanks for clarifying what year it is.

The point is that people’s negative ideas about W&L don’t come from thin air. And there are plenty of alums who like how it used to be and use their money to resist change. I recently spoke with a 2010 grad who is active in alumni stuff and very frustrated by the old guard. FWIW, the same thing is going on next door at VMI, only a million times worse.

Yes, the Lee name is a negative, but hey: people elected a racist and convicted felon. He's even reinstalling, a statute of guess who?

The school itself is top notch in terms of SLACs.

You could start by educating yourself and not throwing around stupid MSM phrases. You probably also call him - irresponsibly - a Nazi. Try using actual concrete, sensible adjectives -- and people will take your comments more seriously.

Trump is a racist.

Trump is a convicted felon.

You can’t handle the truth!

Grow up. Start reading. Turn off MSM.

Go back to your mom’s basement