What does it take to get a little gun control

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Anonymous wrote:After new town I was sure we were going to have at least a little sanity. After Parkland I totally gave up on the possibility of gun control. But since than we have had mass shooting at churches and schools and even the Amish have been victims. What does it take to do even the smallest reforms enacted?

Jesus this is ridiculous.

When it comes to red flag laws, want no due process.

But when it comes to deporting illegal aliens, want due process.

You quite clearly have no idea what is meant by "due process". That should be required to graduate from elementary school.

MAGA don't need no schoolin' Books are for nerds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I say this as a virulent anti-Trumper….

The best way to ensure Republican victory in 2026 and beyond is for Democrats to advocate gun control. It’s the single biggest issue that turns away rural and male voters. “Trans” panic was a one election hit button, but gun control has been a long-term cancer on perceptions of the Democratic Party.

From a purely rational point of view gun control advocates are of course correct- nationwide bans on assault rifles would reduce the incidence of mass shootings. But that’s not a trade that America is willing to make.

We on the left need to stop talking about guns and move to other issues.

Not as an election issue, no. Once the democrats get back into power, though, it should be a top priority.

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Anonymous wrote:We sacrifice 40,000 people to the automobile a year, and driving isn't even mentioned in the Constitution. So probably some multiple of that.

That’s a false equivalency though. Driving has multiple prosocial purposes. Guns have one purpose: killing.

Mass shootings aren’t an accidental byproduct of some other activity, they are the activity.

I wouldn't call driving a prosocial activity though. Not on an individual or social level. The car has led to the destruction of the American landscape, the isolation of people from their communities and a crushing financial burden. The car kills people, cities and nations. Guns only kill people.

I'm an urbanist who's into dense, mixed-use development and public transit - but I recognize that I'm in the minority and we live in a car-centric society. We accept 40,000 automobile deaths because that represents a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of billions of car trips each year that do not result in crashes. The ratio of gun deaths to non-lethal gun uses is orders of magnitude higher, so bringing cars into a discussion about guns is nothing but noise.

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Anonymous wrote:What additional gun control measures would have stopped this?

I know! There's just nothing that can be done... It's just how it is ... but... Thoughts-n-Prayers!

After the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, Australia (a country with a comparatively strong 'gun culture', at least by world standards) said "F**k this."

1) They made it illegal to import, buy, sell, trade or transfer semi-automatic weapons (the mass shooters' favorite!)
2) Btw, ammosexuals, they did NOT seize anyone's semi-automatic weapons. If you have them, and want them, fine, keep them -- just don't sell them or convey them to someone else, or you've committed a crime.
3) Simultaneously, they instituted a nationwide, no-questions-asked VOLUNTARY gun buyback program. If you have a firearm (any firearm, of any kind, operational or not) and would like to turn it in, the govt paid people $1,000 per gun (this was 25+ yrs ago.)

It's totally weird, but the mass shootings thing went way, way down. Imagine that.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-gun-ownership-figures-revealed-25-years-on-from-port-arthur.html

These measures would do nothing in America. Some of them are probably unconstitutional.

Do you have anything else?

What kind of an answer is this? Do YOU have anything else to stop school shootings?

Get the mentally ill some real help, starting with the so called trans.

+1 Just so long as we keep easy access to semi-automatic weapons, we'll be good.

p.s. for fun, Google "buy AR 15" - there's some fantastic End-of-Summer sales out there!

No, thanks, I have a functional penis.

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Anonymous wrote:What additional gun control measures would have stopped this?

I know! There's just nothing that can be done... It's just how it is ... but... Thoughts-n-Prayers!

After the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, Australia (a country with a comparatively strong 'gun culture', at least by world standards) said "F**k this."

1) They made it illegal to import, buy, sell, trade or transfer semi-automatic weapons (the mass shooters' favorite!)
2) Btw, ammosexuals, they did NOT seize anyone's semi-automatic weapons. If you have them, and want them, fine, keep them -- just don't sell them or convey them to someone else, or you've committed a crime.
3) Simultaneously, they instituted a nationwide, no-questions-asked VOLUNTARY gun buyback program. If you have a firearm (any firearm, of any kind, operational or not) and would like to turn it in, the govt paid people $1,000 per gun (this was 25+ yrs ago.)

It's totally weird, but the mass shootings thing went way, way down. Imagine that.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2021/04/28/new-gun-ownership-figures-revealed-25-years-on-from-port-arthur.html

These measures would do nothing in America. Some of them are probably unconstitutional.

Do you have anything else?

What kind of an answer is this? Do YOU have anything else to stop school shootings?

Get the mentally ill some real help, starting with the so called trans.

+1 Just so long as we keep easy access to semi-automatic weapons, we'll be good.

p.s. for fun, Google "buy AR 15" - there's some fantastic End-of-Summer sales out there!

No, thanks, I have a functional penis.

Seriously. We can hand out free Viagra and outlaw these ridiculous weapons. It would be a better solution.

[Anonymous]

NRA should be AR15’d

How the NRA Works To Rearm Criminals: Many are rearrested for crimes that included attempted murder, first-degree sexual assault, kidnapping, child molestation, cocaine trafficking, and other offenses. The history of the guns-for-felons programs proves the NRA's blatant torment and hypocrisy. https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/guns-felons-how-nra-works-rearm-criminals

NRA celebrated their 150th anniversary with this Tweet:
“NRA is the country's foremost defender of our 2A rights, the world leader in firearm training & America's longest-standing civil rights org. Thank you to the NRA members. These patriots are the most powerful political force in America.”

NRA mocks Parkland vigil and student protests in a tweet: "We’ll control our own guns. Thank you.” Overlaid on an AR-15 background photo. The same weapons used to slaughter students.

NRA tweets intimidating image of bullets next to politicians who supported gun control: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nra-tweets-intimidating-image-of-bullets-next-to-politicians-who-supported-gun-control-a6797641.html#

NRA insults American College of Physicians policy statement: "Someone should tell self-important anti-gun doctors to stay in their lane.”

NRA files numerous lawsuits against blue states demanding gun control.


List of congressional candidates receiving millions in NRA campaign money:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_congressional_candidates_who_received_campaign_money_from_the_National_Rifle_Association#:~:text=As%20of%20March%202023%2C%20the,elect%20these%20individuals%20was%20%2427%2C413%2C008.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We sacrifice 40,000 people to the automobile a year, and driving isn't even mentioned in the Constitution. So probably some multiple of that.

Same ignorance, different day. Cars require licenses, registration, insurance, and safety standards to be legally operated on public roads

[Anonymous]

97.4% of mass shooting are committed by straight white males.

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After this administration finally is kicked to the curb, we will see reform.

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Anonymous wrote:We sacrifice 40,000 people to the automobile a year, and driving isn't even mentioned in the Constitution. So probably some multiple of that.

That’s a false equivalency though. Driving has multiple prosocial purposes. Guns have one purpose: killing.

Mass shootings aren’t an accidental byproduct of some other activity, they are the activity.

Guns have many purposes. Defense, hunting, and deterrence.

IOW -- Killing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After new town I was sure we were going to have at least a little sanity. After Parkland I totally gave up on the possibility of gun control. But since than we have had mass shooting at churches and schools and even the Amish have been victims. What does it take to do even the smallest reforms enacted?

Jesus this is ridiculous.

I bet this really causes a drop off in attendance at Mass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:97.4% of mass shooting are committed by straight white males.

100% of mass shootings are committed by a**holes with guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:97.4% of mass shooting are committed by straight white males.

100% of mass shootings are committed by a**holes with guns.

Let's do something about the a**holes and do something about the guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans are ok with children being killed. Their answer is more guns.

Party of life.

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Anonymous wrote:It sadly won’t change until it’s a bunch of private schools and churches and rural white communities (think county fair) Until then folks will believe it can’t happen to them and that they are safe. Also as the calls get louder for the country to split into two.

It happened at a country concert and THAT didn’t change anything. So it’s hopeless. This is how we live in ‘Merica.