Kids becoming Firefighters and Cops

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Don't think I have ever heard of a kid on here who wants or is a cop or firefighter.

Probably because their parents aren't posting here on the college forum. They know what they want to do and are already taking steps to get there.

They are both important careers; both are physically demanding. Police work requires a high degree of "emotional intelligence" that many do not have. One needs to be the right type of person to do either sort of work, unlike office-drone work, which pretty much anyone can do with the right training and experience.

My son wants to go into (federal) law enforcement. He graduated from a HADES school and is at a T20. Do I think it's a great idea? Not really. Do I think it's a waste of education? No, education is never a waste. Time will tell what he ends up doing.

Good thing he's a trust fund baby, given the pay. Not that he knows that yet.

I know two super smart, very well educated people who left NYC Biglaw firms to become FBI agents. Not sure why it would even cross your mind to consider it a waste of an education. Some people aren’t driven by money.

[Anonymous]

Firefighter pay is pretty variable, but if you live in an area where firefighters are well paid, don't pretend it's not true.

I know some Cal Fire, Orange County, and Ventura County firefighters. Average is about $250k with modest OT. OT is part of the gig. But it's not like OT in other fields where you don't see your family. It's OT within the bracket of your assigned shift, just part of the lifestyle.

The outliers that "take every OT shift" are making near $400k or more. The guys at $250k are the average, responsible family guys.

https://lbpost.com/news/firefighters-400k-salary-overtime-long-beach/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Their salary isn’t 240k. It’s much lower. If you’re very senior and work a ton of overtime it might add up to a higher number.

Much easier, better pay, ans hours in a white collar job.

Some white collar jobs not all. Plus the stifling white collar and being contained in an office is not for everyone. It takes a certain type of person to be able to run into a burning building. It’s not for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:divorce attorney friend told me she'd never allow her daughter to marry a firefighter.

(as far as you can allow anything of course ... just a saying .. lets not go crazy... just indicating rampant cheating in the culture .. of course her daughter can do what she wants .. if she had a daughter ... she doesnt even have a daughter, just making a point)

Firefighters do tend to be a good looking group of men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't think I have ever heard of a kid on here who wants or is a cop or firefighter.

Found out recently that brother in law, a FDNY member of 20 years, brings in 240k a year.

Back then, less went to college but now the academies for both FDNY and NYPD require some college credits.

Why aren't more parents encouraging these careers as well, along with the usual talk on trades given the rise of AI for white collar job risks. Understand it could be a dangerous job but guaranteed employment, excellent benefits and pension, location mobility, and high salary in areas like NYC.

This times 1000. I didn't raise my only child to be killed on injured on the job. Most firefighters and cops aren't making the money you mentioned. Your BIL probably works a lot of overtime for that $$$ and he works in NY.

NP.

+1.


I did not raise my child to murder Black people with their hands up.

[Anonymous]

The beauty of a fire or police job is that you can apply no matter what you received your degree in.

[Anonymous]

NFW!

#BlackLivesMatter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NFW!

#BlackLivesMatter

DEFUND THE POLICE !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM snobs only want other people's kids to be firefighters and cops.

Or they just want their kids to make more and be in safer jobs? Weird that you consider that snobbery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone encourage their child to go into a profession where death is a real risk? Why would a parent encourage a child to go into a profession where smoke inhalation and lung cancer are real risks?

You’re more likely to be injured or killed driving your vehicle. Sitting at a desk all day is unhealthy.

I take mass transit + walk to work, and though I have a desk job, I have a standing desk I use at least half the day standing, plus walk around a decent amount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't think I have ever heard of a kid on here who wants or is a cop or firefighter.

Found out recently that brother in law, a FDNY member of 20 years, brings in 240k a year.

Back then, less went to college but now the academies for both FDNY and NYPD require some college credits.

Why aren't more parents encouraging these careers as well, along with the usual talk on trades given the rise of AI for white collar job risks. Understand it could be a dangerous job but guaranteed employment, excellent benefits and pension, location mobility, and high salary in areas like NYC.

This times 1000. I didn't raise my only child to be killed on injured on the job. Most firefighters and cops aren't making the money you mentioned. Your BIL probably works a lot of overtime for that $$$ and he works in NY.

NP.

+1.


I did not raise my child to murder Black people with their hands up.

You know it's not part of the job description right?

If we don't get better people becoming cops, how do our cops become better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM snobs only want other people's kids to be firefighters and cops.

Or they just want their kids to make more and be in safer jobs? Weird that you consider that snobbery.

Don’t be so sure that your non-firefighter or police child will make more money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone encourage their child to go into a profession where death is a real risk? Why would a parent encourage a child to go into a profession where smoke inhalation and lung cancer are real risks?

You’re more likely to be injured or killed driving your vehicle. Sitting at a desk all day is unhealthy.

I take mass transit + walk to work, and though I have a desk job, I have a standing desk I use at least half the day standing, plus walk around a decent amount.

Are you a kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NFW!

#BlackLivesMatter

DEFUND THE POLICE !

STOP

#Blackpoliceandfiremenlivesmattertoo

the whole DTP movement is crazy. It really means get rid of laws and here comes the purge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NFW!

#BlackLivesMatter

DEFUND THE POLICE !

If a graduating student chooses wisely they will find the exact opposite situation. There is money flowing into law enforcement. Departments are plussing up on the latest gear, buying new vehicles and increasing salaries. Signing bonuses can reach $50,000. The OBBB instituted a $25,000 tax credit for overtime pay. PSLF will pay off your student loans. Some departments subsidize the purchase of a first home. Many offer tuition assistance for additional or advanced degrees. You even get free coffee from the nice young women at the local coffee shop.