Waitlist data August update

[Anonymous]

I dont think the general waitlist spots are waitlist kids. They took the feeder kids first plus a few others.

[Anonymous]

*feeder kids. its different lists like the equity spots.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

I think it’s because of the feeder change. No more JR. It’s now to MA which has not gotten buy in from IB families. It’s title 1, poorly performing, limited in curriculum, EC, and sports.

So more IB families from feeders are not going the Hardy route so more seats for OOB.

No. The people entering 6th now know that
MacArthur will be very different by time they get there *because* there is no longer an option of J-R.

Yes, the people entering 6th now know that and why Hardy is not getting as many IB families going to Hardy for 6th.

Nothing has changed except the feeder and Hardy has gone thru their waitlist a lot deeper than previous years. This tells you that this year, many less IB families enrolling for 6th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

I think it’s because of the feeder change. No more JR. It’s now to MA which has not gotten buy in from IB families. It’s title 1, poorly performing, limited in curriculum, EC, and sports.

So more IB families from feeders are not going the Hardy route so more seats for OOB.

No. The people entering 6th now know that
MacArthur will be very different by time they get there *because* there is no longer an option of J-R.

Yes, the people entering 6th now know that and why Hardy is not getting as many IB families going to Hardy for 6th.

Nothing has changed except the feeder and Hardy has gone thru their waitlist a lot deeper than previous years. This tells you that this year, many less IB families enrolling for 6th.

How has the feeder changed? The kids starting 6th grade at Hardy in the fall of 23 and 24 were also slated for MacArthur.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

I think it’s because of the feeder change. No more JR. It’s now to MA which has not gotten buy in from IB families. It’s title 1, poorly performing, limited in curriculum, EC, and sports.

So more IB families from feeders are not going the Hardy route so more seats for OOB.

No. The people entering 6th now know that
MacArthur will be very different by time they get there *because* there is no longer an option of J-R.

Yes, the people entering 6th now know that and why Hardy is not getting as many IB families going to Hardy for 6th.

Nothing has changed except the feeder and Hardy has gone thru their waitlist a lot deeper than previous years. This tells you that this year, many less IB families enrolling for 6th.

How has the feeder changed? The kids starting 6th grade at Hardy in the fall of 23 and 24 were also slated for MacArthur.

No, only kids starting 6th in the fall of 24.
Those who started in the fall of 23 had a choice between McArthur and Jackson-Reed.

[Anonymous]

It is not clear if IB enrollment at Hardy dropped significantly this year (due to people moving or leaving for private school) or something else like enrollment issues at MacArthur motivated DCPS to increase Hardy’s 6th grade enrollment numbers.

[Anonymous]

This is also the first year of the 6th grade Shaw feed to John Francis and that class looks very full.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

I think it’s because of the feeder change. No more JR. It’s now to MA which has not gotten buy in from IB families. It’s title 1, poorly performing, limited in curriculum, EC, and sports.

So more IB families from feeders are not going the Hardy route so more seats for OOB.

No. The people entering 6th now know that
MacArthur will be very different by time they get there *because* there is no longer an option of J-R.

Yes, the people entering 6th now know that and why Hardy is not getting as many IB families going to Hardy for 6th.

Nothing has changed except the feeder and Hardy has gone thru their waitlist a lot deeper than previous years. This tells you that this year, many less IB families enrolling for 6th.

How has the feeder changed? The kids starting 6th grade at Hardy in the fall of 23 and 24 were also slated for MacArthur.

No, only kids starting 6th in the fall of 24.
Those who started in the fall of 23 had a choice between McArthur and Jackson-Reed.

Regardless. The change isn’t new this year so I don’t see how it can explain enrollment behavior that’s new this year.

[Anonymous]

It is a really weird year with federal employee and contractor layoffs. But it is also an increasingly very wealthy school boundary where people have now had some time to get a sense for MacArthur in its nearly final form.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

It’s a data error.

This 100%

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

It’s a data error.

This 100%

Can you say how you know this? Do you have inside knowledge of some kind? Will the error be corrected.

I have a younger child and I am asking primarily because I need to know what our odds might be next year of getting a spot at Hardy 5th or 6th, as it may dictate where me move this coming year.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not clear if IB enrollment at Hardy dropped significantly this year (due to people moving or leaving for private school) or something else like enrollment issues at MacArthur motivated DCPS to increase Hardy’s 6th grade enrollment numbers.

It’s a data error for Christ’s sake. Hardy had over 200 kids show up to summer bridge. The class will be large.

The school was never planning to accept a bunch of kids and the school didn’t accept a bunch of kids from the lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

It’s a data error.

This 100%

Can you say how you know this? Do you have inside knowledge of some kind? Will the error be corrected.

I have a younger child and I am asking primarily because I need to know what our odds might be next year of getting a spot at Hardy 5th or 6th, as it may dictate where me move this coming year.

Inside knowledge. Literally.

[Anonymous]

maybe its not a data error. it could also be that a decent % of people turned down those lottery spots now that some of the other (closer) options are improving and the commute no longer locks in JR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:maybe its not a data error. it could also be that a decent % of people turned down those lottery spots now that some of the other (closer) options are improving and the commute no longer locks in JR.

Idk. Most families considering Hardy via a feeder or direct lottery spot OOB are not turned off by McA enough to not choose to Hardy if they can get in. Will all of them go to McA when the time comes? Maybe not. But Hardy is still a better DCPS middle than most in its own right, it’s certainly better than my IB middle and high, and sending my kid there means I don’t have to move.

I also think it’s a data error. The difference from last few years cannot be explained by the McA factor alone.