Waitlist data August update

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting, still zero movement on Ludlow-Taylor waitlists. Is this related to delays on the annex construction or increased retention of current families or both? Either way, curious if there will be any movement at all in the next month. If Ludlow goes the way of Maury and Brent, that bodes well for IB buy in at Payne and JO Wilson, because there will be fewer places to bail to.

A parent said LT had a late IB boom heading into 2024-2025 that they weren't expecting and to avoid overcrowding for 2025-2026 they planned to hold off on waitlist movement until much later this summer.

Interesting. The IB boom is a good sign, IMO. Also likely bodes well for Stuart-Hobson if they are seeing more retention of IB families in 4th and 5th. That used to be when you saw the most attrition and when it was easiest to get a spot at the school.

But I guess the idea is we should wait and see if the lists move later in August or September. Last year they made 16 offers for 2nd grade. I doubt we'll see anything like that this year. Unless you are number 1-5 on any waitlist, I would not count on that one (and even then).

I think they will end up taking additional kids in 2nd (where they added a 4th classroom because of the IB boom last year) and 5th (where they added back the 3rd classroom). PP is exactly right about the school planning to delay WL movement until just before school starts due to the 1st grade issue last year (now 2nd graders) and 3rd grade (now 4th) to a slightly lesser extent.

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Anonymous wrote:Basis made a lot more offers than at this point last year. The Latins will be impossible.

Nearly 1,000 kids on the waitlist for fifth grade at Latin. They've made 18 waitlist offers (not including equitable access).

Where are you getting 1,000 kids? There were 501 on 2nd St waitlist on results day, 436 on Cooper waitlist on results day. And likely a lot of overlap in the two waitlists.

It's bad, but it's not THAT bad.

There's overlap on lots of lists. Probably most of BASIS's waitlist is also on Latin's.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

This. Last years 6th grade class was huge. They were trying to be very careful this year to avoid over-enrollment

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hardy 6th grade lots of offers

101 offer for 6th grade at Hardy is crazy!!
The school leadership have been saying the school is overenrolled. How does this work?

Yeah, I’m curious about this. They only had 2 available lottery seats for 6th grade, but made 101 offers to fill those two seats?

No. Hardy is always assuming that some number of kids who are inbound and/or come from feeders will enroll each year. They need to be conservative here, as they are required to take all those kids. So, not being sure how many that would be, they only offered up two lottery seats.

But then, the number of kids inbound/from feeders was probably way less than they anticipated. So they had tons of extra seats available for OOB kids.

My guess is, especially before August, very few people turn down Hardy waitlist offers.

I think it’s because of the feeder change. No more JR. It’s now to MA which has not gotten buy in from IB families. It’s title 1, poorly performing, limited in curriculum, EC, and sports.

So more IB families from feeders are not going the Hardy route so more seats for OOB.

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Anonymous wrote:Basis made a lot more offers than at this point last year. The Latins will be impossible.

Nearly 1,000 kids on the waitlist for fifth grade at Latin. They've made 18 waitlist offers (not including equitable access).

Where are you getting 1,000 kids? There were 501 on 2nd St waitlist on results day, 436 on Cooper waitlist on results day. And likely a lot of overlap in the two waitlists.

It's bad, but it's not THAT bad.

There's overlap on lots of lists. Probably most of BASIS's waitlist is also on Latin's.

Yeah the overlap is likely almost complete. These are the same 500 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basis made a lot more offers than at this point last year. The Latins will be impossible.

Nearly 1,000 kids on the waitlist for fifth grade at Latin. They've made 18 waitlist offers (not including equitable access).

Where are you getting 1,000 kids? There were 501 on 2nd St waitlist on results day, 436 on Cooper waitlist on results day. And likely a lot of overlap in the two waitlists.

It's bad, but it's not THAT bad.

There's overlap on lots of lists. Probably most of BASIS's waitlist is also on Latin's.

Yeah the overlap is likely almost complete. These are the same 500 kids.

No. Never applied to basis and have been on the Latin list with two kids (never lucky). I dont have high powered academic kids. Oldest applied to application high schools but not walls despite all as. Aain, not kids who would thrive in high pressure academic environmentS.

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Earlier poster meant Latin 1 and 2 waitlists are the same set of kids. There is probably also lots of overlap with Basis (matches and waitlist), but yes not everyone on the Latin waitlists will have also listed Basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Earlier poster meant Latin 1 and 2 waitlists are the same set of kids. There is probably also lots of overlap with Basis (matches and waitlist), but yes not everyone on the Latin waitlists will have also listed Basis.

Makes sense. Most of the current crop of rising 6th graders I know did both latins and would take both. This wasn't the the couple of years ago when a Latin slot at the og campus was much preferred. This might be the first successful expansion.

But agreed that Latin and basis are different enough that people dont necessary put both down unless they dont have dci/inspired or another viable middle school path.

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there are also a lot of people who list Basis in the 5th grade lottery after the Latins but then go on to turn down the Basis spots

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Anonymous wrote:Basis made a lot more offers than at this point last year. The Latins will be impossible.

With resect to all of this data you need to evaluate it all in context. BASIS made more offers this year than last but the net remaining waitlist is longer than in any year before. So is it more relevant that they needed to make more offers to fill the final seats or that more kids who put the school on their WL are still on the WL? If you are trying to assess the likelihood of admission then the net remaining on WL is the relevant measure.

The larger picture in DC is that the reminder WL at all in demand MS continue to increase. The story this tells us is that demand for high quality MS seats increases and more and more kids are being shut out of a desired path.

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except 6th grade families this year overall did pretty okay. hardy took 1/2 its waitlist. dci french took 40+ students not from feeders. nobody at feeders got shutout of dci. inspired teaching and stuart hobson had spaces. eliot-hine had nearly or maybe completely already gone through its entire waitlist.

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TR 4th has gone through entire WL for all but PK3 and PK4. TRY is even worse having gone through basically the entire WL for all grades. TR MS has a WL only in 8th.

As a long ago parent that loved that school before Kristina burned it to the ground this makes me sad...and angry.