A couple questions about studying business as an undergraduate

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Anonymous wrote:I dont think the school matters as much as the student matters.

I have a business degree and I interviewed at Morgan Stanley, Merril Lynch type places and most business degree people getting the big jobs straight out of undergrad were six foot two to six foot four inch ex lacrosse and frat bros who were good looking, dressed well and a lot of fun. A lot from Catholic Colleges and most had parents who were pretty rich.

Disagree

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Anonymous wrote:I view an MBA as a marker of a stagnant career. They were stuck going nowhere so they had to get an MBA.

Dumb take.

It's an advanced degree.

There is absolutely nothing advanced about an MBA. It is more or less on par with an undergrad business major.

“More or less” doing an incredible amount of work in that sentence.

Nearly half of Fortune 1000 executives have an MBA, if it’s a degree for people with “stagnant careers going nowhere” I would say it does a hell of a good job.

The executives without an MBA are the top half.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I view an MBA as a marker of a stagnant career. They were stuck going nowhere so they had to get an MBA.

Dumb take.

It's an advanced degree.

There is absolutely nothing advanced about an MBA. It is more or less on par with an undergrad business major.

“More or less” doing an incredible amount of work in that sentence.

Nearly half of Fortune 1000 executives have an MBA, if it’s a degree for people with “stagnant careers going nowhere” I would say it does a hell of a good job.

The executives without an MBA are the top half.

Clearly not written by an MBA. What reliable metric are you using to make such a vague, simplistic, dumb statement. "The top half" of what?

OMG. I'm not writing this to defend MBAs. I'm writing it to oppose stupidity.

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Anonymous wrote:I view an MBA as a marker of a stagnant career. They were stuck going nowhere so they had to get an MBA.

Dumb take.

It's an advanced degree.

There is absolutely nothing advanced about an MBA. It is more or less on par with an undergrad business major.

“More or less” doing an incredible amount of work in that sentence.

Nearly half of Fortune 1000 executives have an MBA, if it’s a degree for people with “stagnant careers going nowhere” I would say it does a hell of a good job.

The executives without an MBA are the top half.

Clearly not written by an MBA. What reliable metric are you using to make such a vague, simplistic, dumb statement. "The top half" of what?

OMG. I'm not writing this to defend MBAs. I'm writing it to oppose stupidity.

No intelligent person could sit through an MBA program.

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Anonymous wrote:I view an MBA as a marker of a stagnant career. They were stuck going nowhere so they had to get an MBA.

Dumb take.

It's an advanced degree.

There is absolutely nothing advanced about an MBA. It is more or less on par with an undergrad business major.

“More or less” doing an incredible amount of work in that sentence.

Nearly half of Fortune 1000 executives have an MBA, if it’s a degree for people with “stagnant careers going nowhere” I would say it does a hell of a good job.

The executives without an MBA are the top half.

Clearly not written by an MBA. What reliable metric are you using to make such a vague, simplistic, dumb statement. "The top half" of what?

OMG. I'm not writing this to defend MBAs. I'm writing it to oppose stupidity.

No intelligent person could sit through an MBA program.

Good lord this forum is useless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure the curriculum is sufficiently mathematical. This will expose them to the “real” way of doing academic business and filter out underperforming classmates.

I teach college. The highest performers I meet in the business school are the accountants or the ones doing international, along with the honors econ kids.

Really ?

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Anonymous wrote:If you attend a top undergraduate business program, there should be no need for an MBA.

The MBA is to advance your career if it isn't going well and needs help, or if you have never studied business before.

An MBA is not to advance your career if it not going well. It is required for any c-Suite CFO type job and most other C-Suite jobs. Also needed to advance at most investment banks and to serior level at Big accounting firms.

False.

Absolutely incorrect with respect to IB firms and with respect to "big accounting firms".

However, MBA degree is preferred by management consulting firms.

Regarding Poets & Quants: Not a great resource, but adequate if used in conjunction with other resources about undergraduate business programs. P&Q leaves out too many key undergrad business programs due to lack of responses from its surveys.

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The primary function of Poets & Quants is to market private consultants for MBA applications.

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Anonymous wrote:I view an MBA as a marker of a stagnant career. They were stuck going nowhere so they had to get an MBA.

Dumb take.

It's an advanced degree.

There is absolutely nothing advanced about an MBA. It is more or less on par with an undergrad business major.

“More or less” doing an incredible amount of work in that sentence.

Nearly half of Fortune 1000 executives have an MBA, if it’s a degree for people with “stagnant careers going nowhere” I would say it does a hell of a good job.

The executives without an MBA are the top half.

Clearly not written by an MBA. What reliable metric are you using to make such a vague, simplistic, dumb statement. "The top half" of what?

OMG. I'm not writing this to defend MBAs. I'm writing it to oppose stupidity.

No intelligent person could sit through an MBA program.

Good lord this forum is useless.

You seem like an MBA type haha.

[Anonymous]

Things are different today. I did the ivy/liberal arts degree, followed by an MBA, but my kids are not on that path. Kid #1 went to Emory (undergrad business), outstanding experience, landed amazing IB and PE jobs, doing crazy well 8+ years out and has no need/intention of getting an MBA. Kid #2 did ivy liberal arts and now doing consulting. Intellectual kind of kid, I don't see an MBA in their future, maybe law, a masters or PhD in something later (i see this one in academia vs business). Kid #3 at wharton undergrad. Will likely follow a non-finance path, and I don't see an MBA happening for this kid either. Unless they hit a dead end careerwise and want a reset

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is all interesting. I don't think my kid wants to do accounting or finance - his dream job is actually working in a big school's athletics department or CEO of the special olympics. I think he's more into management/leadership but it seems like that's a business school thing...

I cannot remember which schools Econ Dept page I was looking at…maybe Virginia Tech? Anyways they said undergrad Econ (and maybe Stats/data science) can get internships with the school’s athletics department. I thought that was an interesting collab.

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Anonymous wrote:I view an MBA as a marker of a stagnant career. They were stuck going nowhere so they had to get an MBA.

Dumb take.

It's an advanced degree.

There is absolutely nothing advanced about an MBA. It is more or less on par with an undergrad business major.

“More or less” doing an incredible amount of work in that sentence.

Nearly half of Fortune 1000 executives have an MBA, if it’s a degree for people with “stagnant careers going nowhere” I would say it does a hell of a good job.

The executives without an MBA are the top half.

Clearly not written by an MBA. What reliable metric are you using to make such a vague, simplistic, dumb statement. "The top half" of what?

OMG. I'm not writing this to defend MBAs. I'm writing it to oppose stupidity.

No intelligent person could sit through an MBA program.

Good lord this forum is useless.

You seem like an MBA type haha.

I actually don’t have an MBA, but it’s not that hard to see that comments like “No intelligent person could sit through an MBA program” or “the executives without an MBA are the top half” are extremely stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Undergrad Business is a waste unless your kid goes to one of the Big 5, UPenn, MIT, Berkeley, Cornell, NYU. Some add Michigan and UVA but they are not seen as quite the same level as the top 5.
Better to go to Northwestern or JHU or another T15 for Econ than UVA for undergrad business.

Granny, this is not 70s anymore.
Please stop posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do most UVA students pivot to if they don’t get into the McIntyre School when they apply after their first or second year (I forget when they apply)

What are the strongest business programs at midsize schools - say 5k-15k undergraduates?

Do most who study business at the undergraduate level feel they need to get an MBA?

1. Economics

2. Penn Wharton, MIT Sloan, Cornell Dyson, NYU Stern: all are Bachelors of Science degrees (BS in Econ or similar) not BBA which is inferior

3. Depends on the goals

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do most UVA students pivot to if they don’t get into the McIntyre School when they apply after their first or second year (I forget when they apply)

What are the strongest business programs at midsize schools - say 5k-15k undergraduates?

Do most who study business at the undergraduate level feel they need to get an MBA?

1. Economics

2. Penn Wharton, MIT Sloan, Cornell Dyson, NYU Stern: all are Bachelors of Science degrees (BS in Econ or similar) not BBA which is inferior

3. Depends on the goals

Don’t know how many times this has to be said here but this isn’t true and business degrees don’t work like this nor are they perceived this way by normal people (i.e., non-DCUMers).