Can someone give me the number to call to report boundary fraud?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All kids suffer from the unfortunate choices of their parents. Why should boundary-fraud kid be different?

Boundary-fraud causes real problems. Think about all the kids who live within walking distance of J-R that now must spend 45+ minutes getting to a new high school because of over-crowding at J-R.

Huh? We’re in-bounds for J-R, and I don’t know any in-bounds kids commuting to a new school, because J-R is overcrowded.

Not in-bounds for J-R now. There are hundreds of families who *were* in-boundary for J-R that have been rezoned to MacArthur, even though they live much, much nearer to J-R.

That’s because of DCPS’s equity goal, not because of this child.

J-R OOB population > MacArthur's projected full enrollment.

Hundreds of families' were booted from what they planned for so other families can have what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe one kid does't have big impact. But a bunch of kids like this do, and if there is no enforcement of the rules, then surely there are a lot of kids like this.

Overcrowding matters.

I agree. Also, if this family is actually claiming they obtained a spot at JR via the lottery and telling lots of neighbors and friends this, when they didn't, then they are also perpetuating a falsehood about the lottery and about the options families have for accessing quality schools. Some parents are not savvy about the lottery, don't know you can look up how many kids got lottery spots at specific schools, and wouldn't know to be skeptical of this claim. They might induce a family to think they have a chance at a lottery spot when they don't. The lottery system is very imperfect, but it *is* fair. People who bend the rules to commit boundary fraud undermine that fairness and confuse people. There are actually victims to this behavior.

[Anonymous]

Just because you report a boundary cheater doesn't mean that you've "got" them. DCPS may do a residency fraud investigation whereby the accused must produce several years of tax returns showing withholding at the in-boundary address. This happened to me a few years ago when I was divorcing. I was cleared on the spot when I went in with the right paperwork. The process was straightforward, transparent and quick.

[Anonymous]

We had a similar experience.

[Anonymous]

Hasn't DCPS beefed up its enforcement of residency fraud in the last few years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because you report a boundary cheater doesn't mean that you've "got" them. DCPS may do a residency fraud investigation whereby the accused must produce several years of tax returns showing withholding at the in-boundary address. This happened to me a few years ago when I was divorcing. I was cleared on the spot when I went in with the right paperwork. The process was straightforward, transparent and quick.

They've got like, what, three investigators for the whole city?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here... I'm finding this all highly entertaining that I've gotten so many of you so worked up yet you're worried about the energy I'm wasting on this. To the person saving their MySchoolDC emails worried about "people like me"... my child also attends an out-of-boundary school "in the fancy part of town" - a spot that earned through the lottery as well. I am well aware that there are perfectly legitimate ways to attend a school outside of your boundary school. What I didn't like most about how this family handled things was the child and family walked around loudly telling everyone that they won a lottery spot to Jackson Reed, as if the data on whether that has happened at that school isn't publicly available to all. I know plenty of folks who have gamed the system, never thinking that I needed to report a thing, as I don't have the holier-than-thou attitude that you all think I do. It was this particular situation and this family's boldness that made me want to speak up. And to an early poster who asked if I want them to see this... well, I highly doubt they're on this forum, but yes I would definitely love them to know that they've spent years telling the same boldface lie but they didn't fool everyone.

OP, do you care that your actions will harm a child who has made friends and joined activities and built relationships at this school? They may be needlessly bold and who knows whether they are telling the truth, but you lack empathy for a child! You should feel ashamed. I don’t think I could live with my own moral compass if I took a direct and needless action to emotionally (or physically of course) harm a child.

Hear, hear. These holier than though posts are depressing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

So basically you endorse people breaking rules for their own benefit

newsflash to the boundary cheats: you can cheat, you can probably get away with it, but you cannot stop people from judging you as a lying cheat. And some will report you. FAFO.

PP you replied to. As this thread shows (and multiple ones before it), most people don't judge that hard. It's only you and a very small minority who can muster up enough hate. Morally, I think you are in the wrong to be so punitive. There are rules and rules. Some rules aren't that important. Some rules are extremely important. Being rigid and inflexible and not knowing which is which is bad. Not good. And again, it's not like you have some sort of moral high ground. I'm sure that when you skirt the rules, you tell yourself you have very good reasons to do so, and absolve yourself any blame!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe one kid does't have big impact. But a bunch of kids like this do, and if there is no enforcement of the rules, then surely there are a lot of kids like this.

Overcrowding matters.

I agree. Also, if this family is actually claiming they obtained a spot at JR via the lottery and telling lots of neighbors and friends this, when they didn't, then they are also perpetuating a falsehood about the lottery and about the options families have for accessing quality schools. Some parents are not savvy about the lottery, don't know you can look up how many kids got lottery spots at specific schools, and wouldn't know to be skeptical of this claim. They might induce a family to think they have a chance at a lottery spot when they don't. The lottery system is very imperfect, but it *is* fair. People who bend the rules to commit boundary fraud undermine that fairness and confuse people. There are actually victims to this behavior.

Don't worry, if th ey're telling lots of neighbors and friends this, they're bound to be caught.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I hope someone is watching YOU too, you old busybody.

+1 - A lot of energy wasted on something that doesn’t really affect you and your family. Get a hobby! Best case, this makes you feel slightly superior for 2 minutes. Then you think of how many others there probably are doing the same thing! LOL. But yay - you got one!

+1000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you know they didnt get in from a feeder? A bunch of Deal (and previous Hardy) feeders were pretty easy to get into for about five years. Some still are.

Good point. The situation may be more complicated than you thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

So basically you endorse people breaking rules for their own benefit

newsflash to the boundary cheats: you can cheat, you can probably get away with it, but you cannot stop people from judging you as a lying cheat. And some will report you. FAFO.

PP you replied to. As this thread shows (and multiple ones before it), most people don't judge that hard. It's only you and a very small minority who can muster up enough hate. Morally, I think you are in the wrong to be so punitive. There are rules and rules. Some rules aren't that important. Some rules are extremely important. Being rigid and inflexible and not knowing which is which is bad. Not good. And again, it's not like you have some sort of moral high ground. I'm sure that when you skirt the rules, you tell yourself you have very good reasons to do so, and absolve yourself any blame!

Good point. Good points.

[Anonymous]

I have sympathy for this kid, but I think it's folly to pretend like breaking this rule has no consequences. And if you have a rule that's never enforced, you have no rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you know they didnt get in from a feeder? A bunch of Deal (and previous Hardy) feeders were pretty easy to get into for about five years. Some still are.

Good point. The situation may be more complicated than you thought.

It usually is. We're in MD, and I had no problem telling people one of my kids was in a different school than his home school. Maybe some idiot thought we were fraudulently using this other (better) school, ha! I was never contacted by MCPS if someone reported us - the waiver was in their computer system.