Northwestern vs Cornell for gov/history/law oriented student

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is if your kid end up having that choice, that is amazing. You cant go wrong with either school.

If your kid has international aspirations, Cornell has a better known brand outside of the US. But other than that, your kid should be happy with either.

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-1. Typical know nothing DCUM bullshit.

Oh my. Of course you know everything. The only bullshitter here is you. I’m a Northwestern grad. My wife is a Cornell grad. We lived abroad for years. The fact is, very few people even knew what Northwestern was. Everyone knew what Cornell was. We were both in consulting, and this was among our own colleagues and partners in the EU, not the average joe. I don’t care what you or your ridiculous commentary says. I’ve experienced it. Go away.

Your personal experience doesn’t make it universally true by a long shot. The world is a big place and while you may have lived abroad for a while you only lived in a small part of it. Both schools are widely known world wide.

I’m the PP. I lived in Germany, Italy, UK and Australia before moving back to the states. Sorry. My alma matter is an unknown there. Scream all you want….

One of my very best friends is a well known professor at ANU. Trust me, he’s heard of Northwestern.

You may have lived in a lot of places, but you obviously didn’t run around with a very worldly crowd.

Ok. Whatever you say. I was only around MBB types for 16 years. I love Northwestern. Phenomenal school. My wife and I always argue about this. But let the facts be what they are. Outside of the US, there is no comparison. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:NU is located steps from a large metropolitan area. Cornell is located in rural NY with gorges, lakes and hiking trails

Northwestern has about 8000 undergraduates while Cornell has about 16,000. When you add in graduate students, the total enrollment is much closer (Cornell 26K vs NU 22K)

You already mentioned the quarter system at NU. Other than that, your kid will get the same excellent education at either school. It’s a matter of where they want to be and feel most comfortable.

It is also a matter of whether they can get accepted to either.

It is a long shot for both schools.

Of course. OP and everyone here knows that. The point of the thread is to determine which basket to drop the ED application into because his kid can only choose one.

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is if your kid end up having that choice, that is amazing. You cant go wrong with either school.

If your kid has international aspirations, Cornell has a better known brand outside of the US. But other than that, your kid should be happy with either.

This +1.

-1. Typical know nothing DCUM bullshit.

Oh my. Of course you know everything. The only bullshitter here is you. I’m a Northwestern grad. My wife is a Cornell grad. We lived abroad for years. The fact is, very few people even knew what Northwestern was. Everyone knew what Cornell was. We were both in consulting, and this was among our own colleagues and partners in the EU, not the average joe. I don’t care what you or your ridiculous commentary says. I’ve experienced it. Go away.

Your personal experience doesn’t make it universally true by a long shot. The world is a big place and while you may have lived abroad for a while you only lived in a small part of it. Both schools are widely known world wide.

I’m the PP. I lived in Germany, Italy, UK and Australia before moving back to the states. Sorry. My alma matter is an unknown there. Scream all you want….

One of my very best friends is a well known professor at ANU. Trust me, he’s heard of Northwestern.

You may have lived in a lot of places, but you obviously didn’t run around with a very worldly crowd.

Ok. Whatever you say. I was only around MBB types for 16 years. I love Northwestern. Phenomenal school. My wife and I always argue about this. But let the facts be what they are. Outside of the US, there is no comparison. Sorry.

Maybe you just had a more successful wife? Not having anything to do with the school?

[Anonymous]

I know a pre-law kid who had this exact choice (in RD - tried for HYP REA and got rej). Kid picked Northwestern. Seemed to think Northwestern would be less stressful, more fun, and liked the proximity to a big city. We also know multiple kids admitted to one of these schools and rejected to the other, with no clear pattern. Seems like it's basically an identical cohort.

From a tactical POV, the ED bump is much greater at Northwestern. ED doesn't mean much at Cornell. So you could try for Northwestern and RD Cornell if it doesn't work out.

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is if your kid end up having that choice, that is amazing. You cant go wrong with either school.

If your kid has international aspirations, Cornell has a better known brand outside of the US. But other than that, your kid should be happy with either.

This +1.

-1. Typical know nothing DCUM bullshit.

Oh my. Of course you know everything. The only bullshitter here is you. I’m a Northwestern grad. My wife is a Cornell grad. We lived abroad for years. The fact is, very few people even knew what Northwestern was. Everyone knew what Cornell was. We were both in consulting, and this was among our own colleagues and partners in the EU, not the average joe. I don’t care what you or your ridiculous commentary says. I’ve experienced it. Go away.

Your personal experience doesn’t make it universally true by a long shot. The world is a big place and while you may have lived abroad for a while you only lived in a small part of it. Both schools are widely known world wide.

I’m the PP. I lived in Germany, Italy, UK and Australia before moving back to the states. Sorry. My alma matter is an unknown there. Scream all you want….

One of my very best friends is a well known professor at ANU. Trust me, he’s heard of Northwestern.

You may have lived in a lot of places, but you obviously didn’t run around with a very worldly crowd.

DP - I’m curious why you are so defensive and in a rage about this?

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is if your kid end up having that choice, that is amazing. You cant go wrong with either school.

If your kid has international aspirations, Cornell has a better known brand outside of the US. But other than that, your kid should be happy with either.

This +1.

-1. Typical know nothing DCUM bullshit.

Oh my. Of course you know everything. The only bullshitter here is you. I’m a Northwestern grad. My wife is a Cornell grad. We lived abroad for years. The fact is, very few people even knew what Northwestern was. Everyone knew what Cornell was. We were both in consulting, and this was among our own colleagues and partners in the EU, not the average joe. I don’t care what you or your ridiculous commentary says. I’ve experienced it. Go away.

Your personal experience doesn’t make it universally true by a long shot. The world is a big place and while you may have lived abroad for a while you only lived in a small part of it. Both schools are widely known world wide.

I’m the PP. I lived in Germany, Italy, UK and Australia before moving back to the states. Sorry. My alma matter is an unknown there. Scream all you want….

One of my very best friends is a well known professor at ANU. Trust me, he’s heard of Northwestern.

You may have lived in a lot of places, but you obviously didn’t run around with a very worldly crowd.

Ok. Whatever you say. I was only around MBB types for 16 years. I love Northwestern. Phenomenal school. My wife and I always argue about this. But let the facts be what they are. Outside of the US, there is no comparison. Sorry.

Maybe you just had a more successful wife? Not having anything to do with the school?

Ha ha! Cornell has always had a very strong international reputation. Probably because Cornell has always been strong while Northwestern has risen in the last 15-20 years

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask these types of questions before their kid is even admitted? Chances are high that they’ll be rejected from both, even with amazing stats.

With that said, the settings are completely different. Which did your kid like better?

Definitely this. If this is a parent going through this for the first time, make no assumptions about admissions. Every year there is a thread from parents shocked at kids that got rejected from A, B and C with exceptional profiles.

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Anonymous wrote:This information might be out of date, but the grading curve at Cornell was harsh. A high GPA is important for admission to law school.

My kid went to a crappy high school, & at Northwestern was on a time-consuming club sports team & always worked at least one part-time job, yet still graduated as a double-major in 2 social science fields with a 3.75 gpa.

If the grade deflation at Cornell is anywhere near what it’s alleged to be, I can’t imagine him doing all that at Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a pre-law kid who had this exact choice (in RD - tried for HYP REA and got rej). Kid picked Northwestern. Seemed to think Northwestern would be less stressful, more fun, and liked the proximity to a big city. We also know multiple kids admitted to one of these schools and rejected to the other, with no clear pattern. Seems like it's basically an identical cohort.

From a tactical POV, the ED bump is much greater at Northwestern. ED doesn't mean much at Cornell. So you could try for Northwestern and RD Cornell if it doesn't work out.

As good as it is, Northwestern is still fighting against its image as an Ivy-reject school. So it seems to LOVE ED applicants.

Cornell, for one obvious reason, doesn’t have to fight the Ivy-reject label.

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is if your kid end up having that choice, that is amazing. You cant go wrong with either school.

If your kid has international aspirations, Cornell has a better known brand outside of the US. But other than that, your kid should be happy with either.

This +1.

-1. Typical know nothing DCUM bullshit.

Oh my. Of course you know everything. The only bullshitter here is you. I’m a Northwestern grad. My wife is a Cornell grad. We lived abroad for years. The fact is, very few people even knew what Northwestern was. Everyone knew what Cornell was. We were both in consulting, and this was among our own colleagues and partners in the EU, not the average joe. I don’t care what you or your ridiculous commentary says. I’ve experienced it. Go away.

Your personal experience doesn’t make it universally true by a long shot. The world is a big place and while you may have lived abroad for a while you only lived in a small part of it. Both schools are widely known world wide.

I’m the PP. I lived in Germany, Italy, UK and Australia before moving back to the states. Sorry. My alma matter is an unknown there. Scream all you want….

One of my very best friends is a well known professor at ANU. Trust me, he’s heard of Northwestern.

You may have lived in a lot of places, but you obviously didn’t run around with a very worldly crowd.

Ok. Whatever you say. I was only around MBB types for 16 years. I love Northwestern. Phenomenal school. My wife and I always argue about this. But let the facts be what they are. Outside of the US, there is no comparison. Sorry.

Maybe you just had a more successful wife? Not having anything to do with the school?

Ha ha! Cornell has always had a very strong international reputation. Probably because Cornell has always been strong while Northwestern has risen in the last 15-20 years

That’s just not true. NU has been a very big deal since before any of us were born.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The truth is if your kid end up having that choice, that is amazing. You cant go wrong with either school.

If your kid has international aspirations, Cornell has a better known brand outside of the US. But other than that, your kid should be happy with either.

This +1.

-1. Typical know nothing DCUM bullshit.

Oh my. Of course you know everything. The only bullshitter here is you. I’m a Northwestern grad. My wife is a Cornell grad. We lived abroad for years. The fact is, very few people even knew what Northwestern was. Everyone knew what Cornell was. We were both in consulting, and this was among our own colleagues and partners in the EU, not the average joe. I don’t care what you or your ridiculous commentary says. I’ve experienced it. Go away.

Your personal experience doesn’t make it universally true by a long shot. The world is a big place and while you may have lived abroad for a while you only lived in a small part of it. Both schools are widely known world wide.

I’m the PP. I lived in Germany, Italy, UK and Australia before moving back to the states. Sorry. My alma matter is an unknown there. Scream all you want….

One of my very best friends is a well known professor at ANU. Trust me, he’s heard of Northwestern.

You may have lived in a lot of places, but you obviously didn’t run around with a very worldly crowd.

Ok. Whatever you say. I was only around MBB types for 16 years. I love Northwestern. Phenomenal school. My wife and I always argue about this. But let the facts be what they are. Outside of the US, there is no comparison. Sorry.

Maybe you just had a more successful wife? Not having anything to do with the school?

Ha ha! Cornell has always had a very strong international reputation. Probably because Cornell has always been strong while Northwestern has risen in the last 15-20 years

That’s just not true. NU has been a very big deal since before any of us were born.

+1 this is the most ignorant thread I’ve read on here in a while.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask these types of questions before their kid is even admitted? Chances are high that they’ll be rejected from both, even with amazing stats.

With that said, the settings are completely different. Which did your kid like better?

Definitely this. If this is a parent going through this for the first time, make no assumptions about admissions. Every year there is a thread from parents shocked at kids that got rejected from A, B and C with exceptional profiles.

The question is about where to apply ED.

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Either school is fine for any kid. But again, if you want to go internationally, Cornell is the path of least resistance.

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Anonymous wrote:Either school is fine for any kid. But again, if you want to go internationally, Cornell is the path of least resistance.

I don't see how a grade deflated, competitive college is the path of least resistance in this instance. Northwestern is the better option, and you have access to more opportunities during the school year.

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Anonymous wrote:Either school is fine for any kid. But again, if you want to go internationally, Cornell is the path of least resistance.

I don't see how a grade deflated, competitive college is the path of least resistance in this instance. Northwestern is the better option, and you have access to more opportunities during the school year.

I agree. Even though Cornell is MUCH better known internationally than Northwestern, I think Northwestern is more desirable for most US students academically and socially. If you're a NY resident applying to ILR, I'd give Cornell a huge edge.

That said, both are great so apply ED where kid thinks he'll be happiest.