Mehdi Hasan - Jubilee debate with 20 Conservatives

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The guy outright agreed with being characterized as a fascist and Nazi and yet he things those are "traditional" values for the right.

And he can't manage to fathom that most Americans strongly disagree with those values and is completely wrapped up in his own deranged selfrighteousness.

A racist, yes. Fascist, yes.

However, the Nazis would never accept losers like that. They were evil garbage, but even they had standards.

At one point Hasan ask the guy what he will do when the fascist dictator arrest him or kills his family members. The guy says it will not happen to him because he is a loyalists. This guy thinks he is special! These regimes always purge their ranks.

These regimes represent someone. He is turning to fascism because democracy doesn't represent him. It's not so different from why fascism erupted in the 1930s.

That guy wants the govt to represent ONLY him. Sorry, his values are corrupted and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A Jubilee video was just released on YouTube featuring Mehdi Hassan debating 20 hardcore conservatives. Holy smokes, it’s gotta be the most disturbing political themed video I’ve seen in a long time. I didn’t share the link but you can easily find it on YouTube.

Question is, how common are the views being espoused by these conservative bros on this video? Common? Fringe?

This is why the whole “taking the high road” for the Democrats has failed. These people aren’t rational, and they definitely aren’t pro freedom or democracy.

This isn’t all maga, I hope, but it’s certainly a subset.

Democrats "Taking the "high road"??????? Delusional much???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A Jubilee video was just released on YouTube featuring Mehdi Hassan debating 20 hardcore conservatives. Holy smokes, it’s gotta be the most disturbing political themed video I’ve seen in a long time. I didn’t share the link but you can easily find it on YouTube.

Question is, how common are the views being espoused by these conservative bros on this video? Common? Fringe?

This is why the whole “taking the high road” for the Democrats has failed. These people aren’t rational, and they definitely aren’t pro freedom or democracy.

This isn’t all maga, I hope, but it’s certainly a subset.

Democrats "Taking the "high road"??????? Delusional much???

Yes we need more “moderate” democrats who will reach across the aisle to these type of people. Maybe the Republicans will not kill the “moderates” …oh what am I saying they will kill everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A Jubilee video was just released on YouTube featuring Mehdi Hassan debating 20 hardcore conservatives. Holy smokes, it’s gotta be the most disturbing political themed video I’ve seen in a long time. I didn’t share the link but you can easily find it on YouTube.

Question is, how common are the views being espoused by these conservative bros on this video? Common? Fringe?

This is why the whole “taking the high road” for the Democrats has failed. These people aren’t rational, and they definitely aren’t pro freedom or democracy.

This isn’t all maga, I hope, but it’s certainly a subset.

Democrats "Taking the "high road"??????? Delusional much???

DP...

Where do you get off scoffing at it? Haven't you seen Trump? He and the rest of you are the FARTHEST THING IN AMERICAN POLITICS from a "high road."

At least Dems have tried it. Republicans abandoned any semblance of a "high road" years ago.

Where do you get off? Get the hell out of here you twit.

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Anonymous wrote:They do not realize they were getting destroyed by Hasan.

Hasan repeatedly lies throughout the debates. At one point he says immigrants don't affect wages, despite decades of evidence to show exactly that.

Ok, where is your evidence?

Most studies show that there is no change to skilled or white collar labor, minimal for unskilled. Overall a net positive for wages. The economy as a whole grows.

You have got to be joking on the wages? Look what the average wage bought in terms of housing years ago compared to today? Most studies today do not rely on open data sets with published methodologies that have been replicated. You're welcome to point to specific work, but I doubt it stands up.

If you want, you could look into Borjas, who says that there are some economic gains from immigration, but the benefits overwhelmingly accrue to business owners. Wealthy inequality increases over the past 40 years show as much. Also, these calculations often fail to account for the public debt incurred by supporting immigrants. Look no further than the net taxes paid/received by demography.

Yes, number goes up but the vast majority of people do not benefit. Hasan lies about that problem among many other things such as the fact whites aren't native to America. He's a clown no honest person should ever believe.

Immigration was significantly higher 100 years ago than it is today, idiot

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkzEgWaNSI

Mehdi Hasan joins Tim Miller to unpack his shocking Jubilee debate experience, where he faced off against 20 young members of the far right—some whom were openly fascist—and was left speechless.

Hasan needed a bodyguard. All these conservatives were extremely antisemitic. Old school antisemitism not the you criticize Israel therefore you are Hamas and antisemitic.

It is baffling that many Jews embrace this movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They do not realize they were getting destroyed by Hasan.

Hasan repeatedly lies throughout the debates. At one point he says immigrants don't affect wages, despite decades of evidence to show exactly that.

Ok, where is your evidence?

Most studies show that there is no change to skilled or white collar labor, minimal for unskilled. Overall a net positive for wages. The economy as a whole grows.

You have got to be joking on the wages? Look what the average wage bought in terms of housing years ago compared to today? Most studies today do not rely on open data sets with published methodologies that have been replicated. You're welcome to point to specific work, but I doubt it stands up.

If you want, you could look into Borjas, who says that there are some economic gains from immigration, but the benefits overwhelmingly accrue to business owners. Wealthy inequality increases over the past 40 years show as much. Also, these calculations often fail to account for the public debt incurred by supporting immigrants. Look no further than the net taxes paid/received by demography.

Yes, number goes up but the vast majority of people do not benefit. Hasan lies about that problem among many other things such as the fact whites aren't native to America. He's a clown no honest person should ever believe.

Accrual of wealth at the top is a failure of economic policy, not immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The guy outright agreed with being characterized as a fascist and Nazi and yet he things those are "traditional" values for the right.

And he can't manage to fathom that most Americans strongly disagree with those values and is completely wrapped up in his own deranged selfrighteousness.

A racist, yes. Fascist, yes.

However, the Nazis would never accept losers like that. They were evil garbage, but even they had standards.

At one point Hasan ask the guy what he will do when the fascist dictator arrest him or kills his family members. The guy says it will not happen to him because he is a loyalists. This guy thinks he is special! These regimes always purge their ranks.

These regimes represent someone. He is turning to fascism because democracy doesn't represent him. It's not so different from why fascism erupted in the 1930s.

That guy wants the govt to represent ONLY him. Sorry, his values are corrupted and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Most people vote with their racial tribe. If you can't see that, you're not paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

Was she not aware that this was being filmed for the media and that she was be going to be participating in a debate? Why didn't she prepare at all? The very first thing she says makes no sense. She certainly helped helped out Hasan and all of his arguments

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

Was she not aware that this was being filmed for the media and that she was be going to be participating in a debate? Why didn't she prepare at all? The very first thing she says makes no sense. She certainly helped helped out Hasan and all of his arguments

No she won the debate. It is such a low bar on the right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

Was she not aware that this was being filmed for the media and that she was be going to be participating in a debate? Why didn't she prepare at all? The very first thing she says makes no sense. She certainly helped helped out Hasan and all of his arguments

No she won the debate. It is such a low bar on the right.

She made no sense. She kept contradicting herself and she quickly got voted out of there before she made an even bigger fool of herself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

Was she not aware that this was being filmed for the media and that she was be going to be participating in a debate? Why didn't she prepare at all? The very first thing she says makes no sense. She certainly helped helped out Hasan and all of his arguments

OF COURSE they knew it was a debate. They were invited to debate Hasan. They even had to race each other to get to the chair to sit across from him to debate him.

And yes, he destroyed her. I see a lot of conservatives, especially here on this forum, who are strident and self-righteous, yet their positions are often contradictory, not making sense, not logical, not thought out. I think conservatives are often just repeating snippets and soundbites that they've heard, that they were fed, but which they haven't actually taken the time to analyze or research for themselves in the depth that they should have, before taking a staunch position on the issue. That plays out like what we saw with that young lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

Was she not aware that this was being filmed for the media and that she was be going to be participating in a debate? Why didn't she prepare at all? The very first thing she says makes no sense. She certainly helped helped out Hasan and all of his arguments

OF COURSE they knew it was a debate. They were invited to debate Hasan. They even had to race each other to get to the chair to sit across from him to debate him.

And yes, he destroyed her. I see a lot of conservatives, especially here on this forum, who are strident and self-righteous, yet their positions are often contradictory, not making sense, not logical, not thought out. I think conservatives are often just repeating snippets and soundbites that they've heard, that they were fed, but which they haven't actually taken the time to analyze or research for themselves in the depth that they should have, before taking a staunch position on the issue. That plays out like what we saw with that young lady.

They are in a bubble. If you go to their sites(the 20 “conservatives” involved in this) all their followers think they won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg he absolutely wrecks this poor dumb woman:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMdqgGaybGp/

Let me guess - her parents are Eastern Bloc?

Was she not aware that this was being filmed for the media and that she was be going to be participating in a debate? Why didn't she prepare at all? The very first thing she says makes no sense. She certainly helped helped out Hasan and all of his arguments

OF COURSE they knew it was a debate. They were invited to debate Hasan. They even had to race each other to get to the chair to sit across from him to debate him.

And yes, he destroyed her. I see a lot of conservatives, especially here on this forum, who are strident and self-righteous, yet their positions are often contradictory, not making sense, not logical, not thought out. I think conservatives are often just repeating snippets and soundbites that they've heard, that they were fed, but which they haven't actually taken the time to analyze or research for themselves in the depth that they should have, before taking a staunch position on the issue. That plays out like what we saw with that young lady.

They are in a bubble. If you go to their sites(the 20 “conservatives” involved in this) all their followers think they won.

They probably think Trump won the 2020 election. That group's analysis of "winning" is very flawed.