Have you ever known anyone who used one of the “end of life” services in Switzerland?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how much the Switzerland option costs?

A lot more than a Glock.

I believe there are three organisations - Dignitas, Pegasos, and Athanasios. There are some minor membership fees but the key cost is the process. For Dignitas it is CHF 11,000 ($13,800). For Pegasos it is CHF 10,000 ($12,500). For Athanasios it is CHF 9,500. Of course there are also travel costs.

looks better than 15000-20000/mo “memory care” in a locked facility, not living but merely existing in a 200 sq ft room

Those prices seem reasonable to me.

Right, only the rich have earned the right to die with dignity.

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I’ve always wanted to ask this question: why not simply OD with street drugs?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve always wanted to ask this question: why not simply OD with street drugs?

I bet the failure rate for that is much higher than you apparently think.

And that assumes you have access and means to those drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve always wanted to ask this question: why not simply OD with street drugs?

+1
Only Americans make suicide expensive.

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My friend’s mother was dying of cancer my friend’s very wealthy brother hired a nurse from one of the Swiss end of life facilities to help her mother die peacefully at home. My friend, who is a doctor, said it was still an ansolutely horrifying process and experience.

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I know a couple who did it together when one of them was diagnosed with a terminal illness. I didn’t think that the partner who was not ill could qualify, but apparently you can make a case that your life will be meaningless without your partner.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how much the Switzerland option costs?

A lot more than a Glock.

This is true poster, but then I'd suggest you meet my dear friend who was unsuccessful in suiciding himself with a handgun and now lives in assisted care facilities with half his brain blown off.

The whole point of Medical Aid In Dying is that it is 100% effective and relatively painless.

Not to mention the poor children or family members who have to deal with the messy body.

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Anonymous wrote:Hospice does this. Hospice nurses WILL do this.

I don't think so, it would be murder.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve always wanted to ask this question: why not simply OD with street drugs?

What if you don't die but permenently paralyzed or hooked to a machine?

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https://wapo.st/4lnF9nD

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Even though it is legal in DC, it is hard to find a pharmacy which would fill the prescription -- "In early July, as Teeny lay in the hospital, it had been more than a month since she had completed her Death With Dignity paperwork, and we had been searching in vain for weeks for a pharmacy to fill her Seconal prescription." It took a lot of resources.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/12/11/my-terminally-ill-mother-wanted-end-her-own-life-what-would-it-take-fulfill-her-last-wish/

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Anonymous wrote:An old boss of mind did this. Here's an article about it:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/16/hal-malchow-scheduled-death-democrats-00147362

Beautiful story!

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Anonymous wrote:Hospice does this. Hospice nurses WILL do this.

I don't think so, it would be murder.

Nope, there's plausible deniability and a lot of wink wink nod nod that goes on. I helped my dad pass at home (89, on hospice care) with advice from the hospice nurse. I'm thankful for it. Hospice nurses will help with what you need.

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Anonymous wrote:Hospice does this. Hospice nurses WILL do this.

I don't think so, it would be murder.

Nope, there's plausible deniability and a lot of wink wink nod nod that goes on. I helped my dad pass at home (89, on hospice care) with advice from the hospice nurse. I'm thankful for it. Hospice nurses will help with what you need.

There shouldn't have to be a wink wink nod nod good luck you got the right type of hospice nurse situation. There shouldn't be fear that you might be the case that is singled out for prosecution. Here is a case in the NYT about assisted suicide:

He Helped a Woman End Her Own Life. Was It Manslaughter, or Mercy?
They checked into a motel room in upstate New York, with a gas canister and a plan to end her decades of physical pain.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/08/nyregion/assisted-suicide-kingston.html

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Anonymous wrote:I know someone who did this in California.

They were given a pill.

They were at their children's house and everyone came to say their goodbyes.

They picked a day and he took the pill and went to sleep and never woke up.

Andrew Solomon's "Noonday Demon" book about depression talks about his mother did it. At the time he thought it was the humane sensible thing to do, but now looks back on it with horror.