Why don’t top schools have business majors

[Anonymous]

Business majors make the most sense for academically advanced kids who want to accelerate their education. Rather than an undergrad Econ major followed by MBA, if they are at a top school, an undergrad business major can provide the equivalent of an MBA.

The best example is a Wharton undergrad degree is viewed as the equivalent of an MBA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Penn
Brown
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
Michigan
All have undergrad business schools
Are these not top enough for you?

Brown does not have a business school.

Brown does have a finance concentration/major…not sure it matters if they have a business school.

No it doesn’t: https://bulletin.brown.edu/the-college/concentrations/

It’s in the Econ department…nearly a dozen straight finance classes.

Just google search Brown finance.

They are very popular classes.

But it’s not a concentration. The concentration is in Economics: https://economics.brown.edu/academics/undergraduate/concentrations

There is a Business Economics track within the Economics concentration: https://economics.brown.edu/academics/undergraduate/concentrations/economics/business-track-ab

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Business majors make the most sense for academically advanced kids who want to accelerate their education. Rather than an undergrad Econ major followed by MBA, if they are at a top school, an undergrad business major can provide the equivalent of an MBA.

The best example is a Wharton undergrad degree is viewed as the equivalent of an MBA.

What are you smoking?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Penn
Brown
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
Michigan
All have undergrad business schools
Are these not top enough for you?

Brown does not have a business school.

Brown does have a finance concentration/major…not sure it matters if they have a business school.

No it doesn’t: https://bulletin.brown.edu/the-college/concentrations/

It’s in the Econ department…nearly a dozen straight finance classes.

Just google search Brown finance.

They are very popular classes.

But it’s not a concentration. The concentration is in Economics: https://economics.brown.edu/academics/undergraduate/concentrations

There is a Business Economics track within the Economics concentration: https://economics.brown.edu/academics/undergraduate/concentrations/economics/business-track-ab

Ok? It’s still the equivalent of getting a finance degree.

It’s definitely not your classic liberal arts Economics degree and a nod to offering a business major.

[Anonymous]

My relative who was a math major at Harvard now makes $$$ in investment banking. Earned only a bachelor's, no advanced degrees.

[Anonymous]

its not academic its vocational

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its not academic its vocational

Like Engineer and CS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its not academic its vocational

You could say that about virtually any major. Biochemistry is vocational and so is a foreign language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of top schools have undergraduate business programs:

Penn
Cornell
NYU
MIT
Michigan
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Berkeley
WashU
UVA
Emory
USC
Carnegie Mellon
Texas

Also, Rice just added an undergraduate business school. And Vanderbilt has HOD, which is similar to business. Outside of Cornell, Ivy League schools are a little more traditional and choose to stick to only offering economics degrees. As for recruitment, a business degree from NYU Stern or Berkeley Haas or Georgetown McDonough is valued as much if not more than an econ degree from Brown or Dartmouth or choose your school. But at the really elite levels, an engineering degree is probable more valuable than business/econ degrees from anywhere outside Wharton these days.

1000+. Hard to get into b-schools, btw!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Penn
Brown
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
Michigan
All have undergrad business schools
Are these not top enough for you?

MIT, Cornell, Georgetown

Add NYU!

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Anonymous wrote:Because a Business major is not as academic or intellectually curious as Economics or Mathematics. Top schools want scholars. There is a reason Business is so popular. Bc it is easier and less of an academic haul than an academic field of study.

Not sure why Math is being offered up as some alternative. Kids majoring in Math want to major in Math.

Honestly, most kids at these other schools if given the choice would in fact major in finance or something more practical. They aren’t picking Econ because they have a love for Econ…it’s just the closest degree offered.

In most schools where both Econ and Business are offered, most Econ kids are the ones who could NOT get in the business school….

Exactly! Business has become a vert popular major, and a hard one to gain admission.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Business major is best for students at middling schools who need social mobility. If you're already at the top, there's no reason to major in something your parents could teach you one night at family dinner.

It's also for unmotivated rich students who need a holding pen before stepping into a parent's business, though.

I'm a high school teacher, and have worked in private schools in several states and countries. Consistently, the kids who aim to major in Business for undergrad are...not the smartest and not the kids with (any) intellectual curiosity. College is a tick-box place holder for them, and a place to have fun before being given an office in the family business.

It's not for kids who are smart, driven, or hungry for knowledge and growth.

But it serves a purpose.

Crazy post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:its not academic its vocational

Like Engineer and CS

which top schools have as majors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:its not academic its vocational

Like Engineer and CS

like seamstress and chimney sweep, electrician and plumber.

understand now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Business major is best for students at middling schools who need social mobility. If you're already at the top, there's no reason to major in something your parents could teach you one night at family dinner.

It's also for unmotivated rich students who need a holding pen before stepping into a parent's business, though.

I'm a high school teacher, and have worked in private schools in several states and countries. Consistently, the kids who aim to major in Business for undergrad are...not the smartest and not the kids with (any) intellectual curiosity. College is a tick-box place holder for them, and a place to have fun before being given an office in the family business.

It's not for kids who are smart, driven, or hungry for knowledge and growth.

But it serves a purpose.

hm.. well, I went to a lower income public school, and a lot of smart lower income kids majored in business. I guess business majors are full of rich and poor kids, alike.

BTW, I've been making six figures since 2000, without an MBA.