The D.N.C. Is in Chaos and Desperate for Cash

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people are still support Dems, they just hate the national party and the DNC. The DNC is out of touch.


No not really. People are upset about Democrats at all levels. Local dog catcher, school board, etc. IMO it is due to the leadership, but they have marched themselves into a corner they can't get out of. They would have to do a 180 degree on immigration, but with all the sanctuary cities and what not they have too much bureaucratic inertia.


Excellent point. The problems the Democrats face is one of their own making. They did a terrific job of top down messaging. Everyone at every level from school boards to local politicians to state level offices almost every democratic office holder has adopted the progressive platform. Now they can’t change the tune and move back to the center. They are paddling ever faster down stream and headed straight for the falls.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You'd think with the unpopularity of Trump and the hundreds of thousands on the march for the No Kings protests that Democrats would be in good shape.

But good lord, the Democratic Party is a mess. The fact that 25 year old David Hogg was the Vice Chairman of the DNC to begin with is ridiculous. Not to mention Randi Weingarten, probably the most loathed person in America among parents who remember how she wrecked an entire generation of kids when she shut down public schools for a year and a half. Combine that with geriatric and out of touch Chuck Schumer and mopey Hakeem Jeffries as the present leaders of the Democratic Party.

I mean, really? This is the Democrat's chosen alternative to Donald Trump?

I think the post-Trump Republican Party will be a more effective way to generate change. Democrats are so far down the rabbit hole of intersectionality and identity that they have left the real world. It is not an effective party anymore. And the incompetence and internal politics of the DNC reflect that. Let's be real. Democrats have not risen to this moment in time at all. And that's not likely to change. I think a better strategy is to get involved in Republican primaries and find the sane candidates there. Because Democrats are hopeless.


Good try there. The GOP—now MAGA—party has not been on the right side of most issues for decades. There’s no reason to think that a party that has so wholeheartedly embraced someone like Trump will have any redeeming qualities after he is gone.


Disagree. Many of us think the GOP is finally on the right side of most issues.


The GOP is on the "right side" of tilting at windmills. They IMAGINE the Dems top priorities to be "trans women in sports" and "they want to give kids sex change operations in schools" and other crap despite that not being what any national Dem has run on.


Actions speak louder than words. We have eyes and ears, and we see what and who you choose to support. It is very clear what your priorities are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people are still support Dems, they just hate the national party and the DNC. The DNC is out of touch.


No not really. People are upset about Democrats at all levels. Local dog catcher, school board, etc. IMO it is due to the leadership, but they have marched themselves into a corner they can't get out of. They would have to do a 180 degree on immigration, but with all the sanctuary cities and what not they have too much bureaucratic inertia.


Excellent point. The problems the Democrats face is one of their own making. They did a terrific job of top down messaging. Everyone at every level from school boards to local politicians to state level offices almost every democratic office holder has adopted the progressive platform. Now they can’t change the tune and move back to the center. They are paddling ever faster down stream and headed straight for the falls.


Very well said. Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people are still support Dems, they just hate the national party and the DNC. The DNC is out of touch.


No not really. People are upset about Democrats at all levels. Local dog catcher, school board, etc. IMO it is due to the leadership, but they have marched themselves into a corner they can't get out of. They would have to do a 180 degree on immigration, but with all the sanctuary cities and what not they have too much bureaucratic inertia.


Excellent point. The problems the Democrats face is one of their own making. They did a terrific job of top down messaging. Everyone at every level from school boards to local politicians to state level offices almost every democratic office holder has adopted the progressive platform. Now they can’t change the tune and move back to the center. They are paddling ever faster down stream and headed straight for the falls.



So you're saying democrats did not consider....

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people are still support Dems, they just hate the national party and the DNC. The DNC is out of touch.


No not really. People are upset about Democrats at all levels. Local dog catcher, school board, etc. IMO it is due to the leadership, but they have marched themselves into a corner they can't get out of. They would have to do a 180 degree on immigration, but with all the sanctuary cities and what not they have too much bureaucratic inertia.


Excellent point. The problems the Democrats face is one of their own making. They did a terrific job of top down messaging. Everyone at every level from school boards to local politicians to state level offices almost every democratic office holder has adopted the progressive platform. Now they can’t change the tune and move back to the center. They are paddling ever faster down stream and headed straight for the falls.



So you're saying democrats did not consider....



Yes, exactly. Only path forward is to follow the script and double down.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising! As a Democrat, I dislike the DNC - they consistently make bad decisions and they have crummy leadership.


They do support some important voting rights litigation without which it would be increasingly difficult to win in some states. They are often the lead pocketbook on a lot of those cases.
I’m not sure how much they do as far as crafting candidate messages. I don’t think they play much role there.


They should. Someone needs to organize the Dems on messaging. Punchy, short, to-the-point messaging. The Republicans all repeat theirs. Dems on the other hand are all over the map with no consistent or coherent messaging. Anyone who knows anyone at all in Dem politics should be listening to me on this. It's one of their BIGGEST liabilities right now. Republicans eat their lunch on messaging.


Genuinely curious what messaging you would suggest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising! As a Democrat, I dislike the DNC - they consistently make bad decisions and they have crummy leadership.


They do support some important voting rights litigation without which it would be increasingly difficult to win in some states. They are often the lead pocketbook on a lot of those cases.
I’m not sure how much they do as far as crafting candidate messages. I don’t think they play much role there.


They should. Someone needs to organize the Dems on messaging. Punchy, short, to-the-point messaging. The Republicans all repeat theirs. Dems on the other hand are all over the map with no consistent or coherent messaging. Anyone who knows anyone at all in Dem politics should be listening to me on this. It's one of their BIGGEST liabilities right now. Republicans eat their lunch on messaging.


Genuinely curious what messaging you would suggest.


For starters:
We stand strong against illegal immigration.
We stand strong against crime and believe in prison time for violent crimes.
We stand strong for all children and will do what's needed to ensure they receive the education and support they need in well run schools with teachers who are dedicated to their profession.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Didn’t they raise billions for Kamala via ActBlue? Where did that money all go?

Trump should investigate Act Blue. They text all the time begging for cash yet they have billions in their coffers


Act Blue is not the DNC. PACs are still raising money. No one wants to give to the DNC b/c they refuse to evolve.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The party is so unpopular that they managed to lose to Donald Trump. They need to move to the center and shed the extreme wing of their party. That’s all who’s left though, after they’ve purged everyone who doesn’t toe the line.


Trump won by 1.5%. The black and latino men to moved over to the Rs will move back.

Don't overplay your hand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the saying, “Go woke, go broke” has some truth to it.


Ask Target about this. They stopped being woke and lost millions.

The problem with the billion dollar raised was that it was raised through a bunch of different PACs who were not on the same page on strategy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising! As a Democrat, I dislike the DNC - they consistently make bad decisions and they have crummy leadership.


They do support some important voting rights litigation without which it would be increasingly difficult to win in some states. They are often the lead pocketbook on a lot of those cases.
I’m not sure how much they do as far as crafting candidate messages. I don’t think they play much role there.


They should. Someone needs to organize the Dems on messaging. Punchy, short, to-the-point messaging. The Republicans all repeat theirs. Dems on the other hand are all over the map with no consistent or coherent messaging. Anyone who knows anyone at all in Dem politics should be listening to me on this. It's one of their BIGGEST liabilities right now. Republicans eat their lunch on messaging.


Genuinely curious what messaging you would suggest.


For starters:
We stand strong against illegal immigration.
We stand strong against crime and believe in prison time for violent crimes.
We stand strong for all children and will do what's needed to ensure they receive the education and support they need in well run schools with teachers who are dedicated to their profession.



Democrats can SAY that all they want but their actions are in direct conflict with that message.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The party is so unpopular that they managed to lose to Donald Trump. They need to move to the center and shed the extreme wing of their party. That’s all who’s left though, after they’ve purged everyone who doesn’t toe the line.


Trump won by 1.5%. The black and latino men to moved over to the Rs will move back.

Don't overplay your hand.


Dems were assured of a 95% chance if winning the 2028 POTUS election the moment Trump was elected in 2024. Wash, rinse, repeat. Unpopular elderly men don't hold up well in the most important job in the world. Go figure

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Democrats don’t have a viable way back to the White House or even the congress next year


Of course they do. The reconciliation bill will do the campaigning on behalf of Dems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You'd think with the unpopularity of Trump and the hundreds of thousands on the march for the No Kings protests that Democrats would be in good shape.

But good lord, the Democratic Party is a mess. The fact that 25 year old David Hogg was the Vice Chairman of the DNC to begin with is ridiculous. Not to mention Randi Weingarten, probably the most loathed person in America among parents who remember how she wrecked an entire generation of kids when she shut down public schools for a year and a half. Combine that with geriatric and out of touch Chuck Schumer and mopey Hakeem Jeffries as the present leaders of the Democratic Party.

I mean, really? This is the Democrat's chosen alternative to Donald Trump?

I think the post-Trump Republican Party will be a more effective way to generate change. Democrats are so far down the rabbit hole of intersectionality and identity that they have left the real world. It is not an effective party anymore. And the incompetence and internal politics of the DNC reflect that. Let's be real. Democrats have not risen to this moment in time at all. And that's not likely to change. I think a better strategy is to get involved in Republican primaries and find the sane candidates there. Because Democrats are hopeless.


Good try there. The GOP—now MAGA—party has not been on the right side of most issues for decades. There’s no reason to think that a party that has so wholeheartedly embraced someone like Trump will have any redeeming qualities after he is gone.


Disagree. Many of us think the GOP is finally on the right side of most issues.


You are right, but the problem is that Trump got a lot of soft support. Support that will not last and certainly won't last if Vance is the candidate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not surprising! As a Democrat, I dislike the DNC - they consistently make bad decisions and they have crummy leadership.


They do support some important voting rights litigation without which it would be increasingly difficult to win in some states. They are often the lead pocketbook on a lot of those cases.
I’m not sure how much they do as far as crafting candidate messages. I don’t think they play much role there.


They should. Someone needs to organize the Dems on messaging. Punchy, short, to-the-point messaging. The Republicans all repeat theirs. Dems on the other hand are all over the map with no consistent or coherent messaging. Anyone who knows anyone at all in Dem politics should be listening to me on this. It's one of their BIGGEST liabilities right now. Republicans eat their lunch on messaging.


Genuinely curious what messaging you would suggest.


For starters:
We stand strong against illegal immigration.
We stand strong against crime and believe in prison time for violent crimes.
We stand strong for all children and will do what's needed to ensure they receive the education and support they need in well run schools with teachers who are dedicated to their profession.



Democrats can SAY that all they want but their actions are in direct conflict with that message.


How? Dems wanted an immigration bill and Trump stopped it. Also, Obama deported more people than any other president. Please humor me with Dems who support violent criminals. Don't bring up Defund the police b/c VERY FEW cities actually did that. Unfortunately, we were bad at getting that message out. We believe in education. Charter schools and vouchers are not going to be better for education. It will just cost a lot more. Closing the Dept of Ed is going to end badly. We have a Secretary who thinks AI is A1. Please.
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