Do people think Dunn loring es will happen?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No one in the area wants Frisch’s Dunn Loring school but we get Karl or one of his annoying proxies trying to give etiquette lessons. It’s not posters on here (other than possibly Karl) who are wasting over $85 million.


There you go again. Now make some alternative posts pretending to be other people making the same generic statements that are unhelpful.
Anonymous
The school will not happen because the district is broke. You can blame whomever you want. Giving the teachers the majority of the raise they requested was a bad move. Schools are strapped for cash and are already cutting positions and cramming students. Home values will not continue to rise and tax dollars will suffer. These little meal taxes and grocery taxes will not amount to much. We have a school board that is unqualified and unable to see the big picture because they are too focused on special interests.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The school will not happen because the district is broke. You can blame whomever you want. Giving the teachers the majority of the raise they requested was a bad move. Schools are strapped for cash and are already cutting positions and cramming students. Home values will not continue to rise and tax dollars will suffer. These little meal taxes and grocery taxes will not amount to much. We have a school board that is unqualified and unable to see the big picture because they are too focused on special interests.


Teacher salaries are funded out of the operating budget. The construction of new schools and the renovation of existing schools is funded out of the capital budget, and paid for separately through bonds.

It's been decades since a school bond was voted down. In general, county residents support the schools and the bonds always cover a list of projects. So even if there is a total stinker in there like Frisch's unnecessary Dunn Loring ES, people vote for school bonds because they want other schools renovated. Our School Board member has told people she knows Dunn Loring is a big waste of money but she didn't want to object because she didn't want to delay other school renovations in our magisterial district.

Frisch capitalized on this to push ahead with this wasteful project. Most of the people in the Marshall pyramid who know about it don't want all the boundary changes at Shrevewood, Stenwood, Freedom Hill, Westbriar, and maybe even some schools in the Madison pyramid (Vienna and Cunningham Park) that will happen if this school is built.

Their most recent CIP commits to spending over $28 million (out of a total $86 million) on Dunn Loring during FCPS's 2025-26 fiscal year. If they tear down the current, historic building and begin construction over the next 12 months, there will be no turning back. If they delay, it will demonstrate there's no need for this school, and the School Board should step up to the plate, kill the DLES project, and find a better use for the bond proceeds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm 99.9% certain there is one bitter parent in here posting back and forth with all of this Karl Frisch hate. As ankther poster put it, she (maybe a he?) gives off a serious "Mean Girls" vibe.


I’ve posted about “Frisch’s Folly” and I’m definitely not alone.

Does it make you feel better to think Frisch and his misguided Dunn Loring project only have one critic?


Kilmer's program capacity is 791 without the modular and 1023 with the modular. Years ago Kilmer was not renovated plus undercapacity and Longfellow was overloaded for AAP/GT pre relaxing the standards. Now after removng massive AAP feeds to Kilmer it's still way over so why can't Dunn Loring be a middle school?

CIP for 28-29 adding up over 20 Tysons and adjacent schools show seats aren't needed for ES but there's a deficit at MS level.
And how much square footage is used at Marshall etc for academies thatdon't go into membership counts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm 99.9% certain there is one bitter parent in here posting back and forth with all of this Karl Frisch hate. As ankther poster put it, she (maybe a he?) gives off a serious "Mean Girls" vibe.


I’ve posted about “Frisch’s Folly” and I’m definitely not alone.

Does it make you feel better to think Frisch and his misguided Dunn Loring project only have one critic?


Kilmer's program capacity is 791 without the modular and 1023 with the modular. Years ago Kilmer was not renovated plus undercapacity and Longfellow was overloaded for AAP/GT pre relaxing the standards. Now after removng massive AAP feeds to Kilmer it's still way over so why can't Dunn Loring be a middle school?

CIP for 28-29 adding up over 20 Tysons and adjacent schools show seats aren't needed for ES but there's a deficit at MS level.
And how much square footage is used at Marshall etc for academies thatdon't go into membership counts?


Kilmer was renovated in 2002.

It’s odd that the program capacity is so low. That number should be carefully examined, especially before they pull so many kids out of Kilmer and Marshall (as Thru Consulting is now proposing) to get Kilmer below 105% of program capacity. If it’s correct why aren’t we expanding Kilmer rather than wasting money on Dunn Loring?
Anonymous
It’s a shame Frisch doesn’t care about families with kids in FCPS, just his teacher partner and their friends.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s a shame Frisch doesn’t care about families with kids in FCPS, just his teacher partner and their friends.


There you go again with your empty statements that fail to offer anything constructive
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a shame Frisch doesn’t care about families with kids in FCPS, just his teacher partner and their friends.


There you go again with your empty statements that fail to offer anything constructive


Thanks for bumping the thread to the top of the forum again. It's a good reminder that Providence District deserves so much better than Karl Frisch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a shame Frisch doesn’t care about families with kids in FCPS, just his teacher partner and their friends.


There you go again with your empty statements that fail to offer anything constructive


Thanks for bumping the thread to the top of the forum again. It's a good reminder that Providence District deserves so much better than Karl Frisch.


You're welcome. Trying to shame people on this board... I think it's only one (is it you?) ... to be more constructive with their (your?) discussion. I'm not a fan of Frisch (or adamantly against him), but I would like to see civil discourse persist her. These empty insults don't move the conversation anywhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a shame Frisch doesn’t care about families with kids in FCPS, just his teacher partner and their friends.


There you go again with your empty statements that fail to offer anything constructive


Thanks for bumping the thread to the top of the forum again. It's a good reminder that Providence District deserves so much better than Karl Frisch.


You're welcome. Trying to shame people on this board... I think it's only one (is it you?) ... to be more constructive with their (your?) discussion. I'm not a fan of Frisch (or adamantly against him), but I would like to see civil discourse persist her. These empty insults don't move the conversation anywhere.


If anyone here deserves to be shamed it is Karl Frisch, for his misplaced priorities, his broken promises to his constituents, and his colossal waste ($86 million and rising) of taxpayer money at Dunn Loring.

Thanks again for the opportunity to point this out.
Anonymous
There is a New Business item at this Thursday's School Board Meeting to increase the A&E contract for this school by $900k+

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DHCTP4784599
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is a New Business item at this Thursday's School Board Meeting to increase the A&E contract for this school by $900k+

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=DHCTP4784599


If they keep bumping up the A&E contract one can only imagine how the construction costs will escalate. It’s a shame FCPS is wasting so much money on a school that isn’t needed.
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