Summer internship premed...ideas of how to find opportunities?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was also referring to underserved and free clinics. Not that patients voices don’t matter, there, but didn’t mean the local GP office.

Poor patients don't want to entertain your high school student either.

Again, I said a college certified EMT, not a high school student. If you’re in an emergency and they show up in an ambulance, will you allow that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was also referring to underserved and free clinics. Not that patients voices don’t matter, there, but didn’t mean the local GP office.

Poor patients don't want to entertain your high school student either.

Again, I said a college certified EMT, not a high school student. If you’re in an emergency and they show up in an ambulance, will you allow that?

Va allows kids to be emts at 16.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was also referring to underserved and free clinics. Not that patients voices don’t matter, there, but didn’t mean the local GP office.

Poor patients don't want to entertain your high school student either.

Again, I said a college certified EMT, not a high school student. If you’re in an emergency and they show up in an ambulance, will you allow that?

Va allows kids to be emts at 16.

I don’t know the state laws of every state, I’m not in VA. Mine took class, state and national exams at 17, but the national wasn’t valid until 18th birthday. I mentioned college for volunteering as needed for med school applications whereas HS doesn’t count for hours.

I wasn’t the one with the issue of students volunteering though. I acknowledged some would prefer not to and it is their right to not have them in room. I’ve been annoyed by a full-on med student at one of my kids specialist appointments that was so clueless.

[Anonymous]

Inova also has random one offs--this was one this year with applications in Nov-Dec of the previous year:
https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-lung-services/research/summer-student-internship

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Inova offers internships in summer. I am sure other large hospital systems have similar programs.

No, they don't.

This is the Inova program: https://www.inova.org/our-services/inova-volunteer-services-system/summer-2025

You have to have registered by April 25th. So annoying. My college kid just got home from school and is looking for pre-med volunteering opportunities. I guess you need to look in the winter? Anything available now ?

Of course you need to look in winter! How can your kids be so book smart yet so street not smart?

Who knows? Mostly because of ADHD. Brilliant but scattered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many pre-meds don't do internships per se, and no one does hands on surgery. There are four major boxes to check that are prerequisites for many medical schools.

Volunteering - 100+ hours, usually much more - This can be anything, preferrably medical related.

Shadowing - Anywhere from 50-200 hours depending on the school. Reach out to any doctors you know and ask to shadow. Do it acrosse a variety of practice types

Clinical - 100+ hours, many do much more.
Scribing, EMT, medical assistant, phlebotemist, whatever you can get.

Research - 400+ hours for research oriented medical schools, many do much more. Get in touch with research professors at your school. Hard to do for just a summer.

But none of this has to be done in high school!

None of the above should be done in high school. Nothing done in HS can be used on a medical school application.

[Anonymous]

what about this one: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/intern-at-inova-health-4222359874/?utm_campaign=google_jobs_apply&utm_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic

[Anonymous]

Some high schoolers are trying to get EC’s to justify career path or apply to BS/MD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was also referring to underserved and free clinics. Not that patients voices don’t matter, there, but didn’t mean the local GP office.

Poor patients don't want to entertain your high school student either.

Again, I said a college certified EMT, not a high school student. If you’re in an emergency and they show up in an ambulance, will you allow that?

Va allows kids to be emts at 16.

+1. Colleges don’t set the standards for what constitutes an EMT. If you want to refuse medical support from someone you feel is too young, that’s your prerogative, but I doubt they’ll be running out to find one that meets your standards. When I was in college in New York, many of the pre-med students were EMTs. Absent being a Nepo baby surgeon’s kid, there aren’t that many other ways to get such good exposure to medicine at that age.

[Anonymous]

Surgeon here -

No way any HS or college student does any kind of surgery.
Med student not even doing surgery - just suturing at end of case...doing sutures not crucial to integrity of the wound/surgery.
First year residents not even really doing hardly any surgery.

As HS, maybe shadow a bit....but not very helpful at that level except to just a see a day in the life of a doctor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surgeon here -

No way any HS or college student does any kind of surgery.
Med student not even doing surgery - just suturing at end of case...doing sutures not crucial to integrity of the wound/surgery.
First year residents not even really doing hardly any surgery.

As HS, maybe shadow a bit....but not very helpful at that level except to just a see a day in the life of a doctor.

+1. News flash. Many high school kids embellish their accomplishments. Doesn’t mean their claim of doing surgery is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The INOVA program does not allow the kids to perform surgery. I agree that getting a chance to perform surgery while still in high school or college would be a father in one's cap. But maybe INOVA worries that patients might not be happy playing along? Do other hospitals allow it?

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It's hard to find that kind of experience in the US. I assume that letting a high school student perform surgery violates some law. But maybe see if one of those programs that has kids paint houses in Haiti will let them do some surgery as well.

[Anonymous]

Wilderness medicine class or EMT training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The INOVA program does not allow the kids to perform surgery. I agree that getting a chance to perform surgery while still in high school or college would be a father in one's cap. But maybe INOVA worries that patients might not be happy playing along? Do other hospitals allow it?

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It's hard to find that kind of experience in the US. I assume that letting a high school student perform surgery violates some law. But maybe see if one of those programs that has kids paint houses in Haiti will let them do some surgery as well.

Yes, just tell your pre-med kid it’s fine to experiment with the health of poor black children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The INOVA program does not allow the kids to perform surgery. I agree that getting a chance to perform surgery while still in high school or college would be a father in one's cap. But maybe INOVA worries that patients might not be happy playing along? Do other hospitals allow it?

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It's hard to find that kind of experience in the US. I assume that letting a high school student perform surgery violates some law. But maybe see if one of those programs that has kids paint houses in Haiti will let them do some surgery as well.

Yes, just tell your pre-med kid it’s fine to experiment with the health of poor black children.

It’s so egregious I presume it was a bad joke and not serious.