Girl with 1370 SAT gets in to 5 Ivies

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Race. 4.38 isn't a particulary high GPA in compariosm to northern va. SAT is not stellar. On tik tokots of kids have similar extra- curriculars.

Show us demographics of her zip, school, etc.
Also, she's from Philly. Not a larger educational hub.

I know kids with stats like that who can't get into VA state schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Just read the piece, and she seems like a completely wonderful person. Did you see that the Yale admissions
Officer hugger her because her essay left such a deep impression?

This is admissions working the right way. This is the kind of person who really should be given the best educational opportunities.

1370 is one data point, and it's also a respectable score, when balanced by all the other things she is doing with her time. She's a star.


She wrote about the Black community. She's not stupid. She made sure to let admissions know her race. Played the game well.


She is most certainly not stupid. She also did a legal aid internship which is unique based on my experience. Most of the kids I know with a law theme in their college application got an internship through their parents with a friend who was a judge or a corporate lawyer or a tax attorney.... But most definitely not with legal aid.


Legal aid internship
Big deal LOL


Maybe it is common to do legal aid work in high school. As I said, all of the high school students I know that did some kind of legal work or internship did not do it at legal aid.


I know several who worked in Legal Aid.


Good for them. I inhabit a bubble where a high school internship at legal aid is rare but I think it's very valuable experience.
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Anonymous wrote:Low SES? What? Her parents are college educated and she is in a high performing school district. The photos of her home show she is definitely not low income. She sounds like a dynamo. She didn’t get into the test required schools. She likely went TO were available and sent AP scores instead of the 1370 to Yale.


Her high schools is 55% FARMS and has a 3% AP participation. Low SES is certainly possible.
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Who cares about her SAT score? Stop the hateful sour grapes comments. SAT is just one of many parts of the application. She sounds like someone with a sense of purpose, who would make a valuable contribution to campus life. Best and congrats to her! Signed, Asian parent.
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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about her SAT score? Stop the hateful sour grapes comments. SAT is just one of many parts of the application. She sounds like someone with a sense of purpose, who would make a valuable contribution to campus life. Best and congrats to her! Signed, Asian parent.


The point is addressing those that are trying to imply her race wasn’t considered. A massive amount of equally and more qualified kids are denied every year. There is a reason she was accepted.

And yes, she will do fine there. But that is not the point of most of the posts. It isn’t sour grapes- it is showing that that is why she was admitted based on an app that would not be admitted from a non urm.
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If you watch her tiktok, she is pretty sassy and will do well in law. But doesn't she need a great GPA and LSAT from Yale to get in to a top tier law school?
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Anonymous wrote:Just read the piece, and she seems like a completely wonderful person. Did you see that the Yale admissions
Officer hugger her because her essay left such a deep impression?

This is admissions working the right way. This is the kind of person who really should be given the best educational opportunities.

1370 is one data point, and it's also a respectable score, when balanced by all the other things she is doing with her time. She's a star.


She wrote about the Black community. She's not stupid. She made sure to let admissions know her race. Played the game well.


She is most certainly not stupid. She also did a legal aid internship which is unique based on my experience. Most of the kids I know with a law theme in their college application got an internship through their parents with a friend who was a judge or a corporate lawyer or a tax attorney.... But most definitely not with legal aid.


Legal aid internship
Big deal LOL


Maybe it is common to do legal aid work in high school. As I said, all of the high school students I know that did some kind of legal work or internship did not do it at legal aid.


So? Why does the location where the kid volunteers matter?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just read the piece, and she seems like a completely wonderful person. Did you see that the Yale admissions
Officer hugger her because her essay left such a deep impression?

This is admissions working the right way. This is the kind of person who really should be given the best educational opportunities.

1370 is one data point, and it's also a respectable score, when balanced by all the other things she is doing with her time. She's a star.


She wrote about the Black community. She's not stupid. She made sure to let admissions know her race. Played the game well.


She is most certainly not stupid. She also did a legal aid internship which is unique based on my experience. Most of the kids I know with a law theme in their college application got an internship through their parents with a friend who was a judge or a corporate lawyer or a tax attorney.... But most definitely not with legal aid.


Legal aid internship
Big deal LOL


Maybe it is common to do legal aid work in high school. As I said, all of the high school students I know that did some kind of legal work or internship did not do it at legal aid.


So? Why does the location where the kid volunteers matter?


I don't know anything about the particular location of the office where she did an internship. Perhaps the schools where she was applying have some knowledge of the program and what kind of students are admitted to that internship and what they get out of it. It sounds interesting to me because it's lower paid public service legal work as opposed to lucrative corporate work.
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Anonymous wrote:Just read the piece, and she seems like a completely wonderful person. Did you see that the Yale admissions
Officer hugger her because her essay left such a deep impression?

This is admissions working the right way. This is the kind of person who really should be given the best educational opportunities.

1370 is one data point, and it's also a respectable score, when balanced by all the other things she is doing with her time. She's a star.


She wrote about the Black community. She's not stupid. She made sure to let admissions know her race. Played the game well.


She is most certainly not stupid. She also did a legal aid internship which is unique based on my experience. Most of the kids I know with a law theme in their college application got an internship through their parents with a friend who was a judge or a corporate lawyer or a tax attorney.... But most definitely not with legal aid.


Legal aid internship
Big deal LOL


Maybe it is common to do legal aid work in high school. As I said, all of the high school students I know that did some kind of legal work or internship did not do it at legal aid.


So? Why does the location where the kid volunteers matter?


I don't know anything about the particular location of the office where she did an internship. Perhaps the schools where she was applying have some knowledge of the program and what kind of students are admitted to that internship and what they get out of it. It sounds interesting to me because it's lower paid public service legal work as opposed to lucrative corporate work.


Particularly in the current environment. Where public service workers are being demonized.
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Anonymous wrote:These are TO schools, I don’t understand why OP brings 1370 into the title. It’s irrelevant!


Because there are test required schools.
It's very relevant.


You seem to assume it’s the job of these universities to collect the highest achievers. I disagree. That’s too much of what they do already. Their job should be to make and mold them, not collect them.


It actually is the job of these schools to collect the highest achievers, and that's certainly what they've done in accepting this young woman. She is a rock star.

Test required means just that: test scores required. It does not mean: we only accept students above a certain score. That 1370 indicates that she is perfectly capable of doing well in her studies at Yale and everywhere else she applied. And all her other accomplishments indicate she will thrive there and be a big contributor to her college community.


Colleges have done the research. Standardized test scores are predictive of how well a student will do. You may not like this conclusion but the pandemic was a real case study.


Correct. And 1370 puts her at the 96th percentile of SAT takers. As I said, it indicates that she is perfectly capable of doing well in her studies.


These people are insane -- 1370 is a very capable score. Did you know that SAT tracks pretty closely to IQ? So you are talking about a person who likely has a 130s IQ. She doesn't need "easy majors"!

I'd love to know what all these people got themselves, that makes it so easy to say that 1370 is bad.

I happen to have a lot of exposure to SAT and ability. I myself got a 1470 with no prep class and did pretty poorly in college bc I never learned how to study, but I'm fairly accomplished in adult life. My husband got a 1500s score and works in middle management consulting. I also was an SAT and GRE teacher for many years and I know that many intelligent people get 1200 or 1300 scores before prepping. Another long term boyfriend was the first in his family to go to college and sat down and got a 1350 with no prep (or guidance of any kind) and now he's owns his own law firm and is super accomplished. If he had been UMC, he would have had a mid 1400s score after prep.



There are about 80K college applicants every year with "130s IQ" . That's not what interests 5 Ivy League schools with their <10K seats.
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Anonymous wrote:These are TO schools, I don’t understand why OP brings 1370 into the title. It’s irrelevant!


Because there are test required schools.
It's very relevant.


You seem to assume it’s the job of these universities to collect the highest achievers. I disagree. That’s too much of what they do already. Their job should be to make and mold them, not collect them.


Do you think professors at Yale have time to mold students? They need to be ready from day one.


Amy Chua at Yale Law School molded JD Vance.
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Anonymous wrote:These are TO schools, I don’t understand why OP brings 1370 into the title. It’s irrelevant!


Because there are test required schools.
It's very relevant.


You seem to assume it’s the job of these universities to collect the highest achievers. I disagree. That’s too much of what they do already. Their job should be to make and mold them, not collect them.


Do you think professors at Yale have time to mold students? They need to be ready from day one.


Amy Chua at Yale Law School molded JD Vance.


Let's hope she keeps her claws off this student if she makes it to Yale law school.
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Anonymous wrote:These are TO schools, I don’t understand why OP brings 1370 into the title. It’s irrelevant!


Because there are test required schools.
It's very relevant.


You seem to assume it’s the job of these universities to collect the highest achievers. I disagree. That’s too much of what they do already. Their job should be to make and mold them, not collect them.


Do you think professors at Yale have time to mold students? They need to be ready from day one.


Amy Chua at Yale Law School molded JD Vance.


Law school is not undergrad.
Anonymous
Pre-covid, 1370 was the 10%ile score at Yale

https://oir.yale.edu/sites/default/files/w032_firstyears_sats.pdf
Anonymous
Honestly she sounds like a great kid. Good for her. Some of you are addicted to grievance.
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