Will tariffs cause food shortages?

Anonymous
Just wait until migrants.are afraid to come pick the crops. No produce unless we’re willing do that work for that pay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just wait until migrants.are afraid to come pick the crops. No produce unless we’re willing do that work for that pay.


I’m pretty sure this is already happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just wait until migrants.are afraid to come pick the crops. No produce unless we’re willing do that work for that pay.


I’m pretty sure this is already happening.


I’m pretty sure if the poop hits the fan they may get their jollies forcing people to pick crops.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Trump officials seem to think so. They're stockpiling toilet paper, food and cash.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-officials-hoarding-supplies-trade-war-tariffs-1235329235/


Why stockpile cash? That makes no sense to me unless they are expecting bank runs and banks to fail. Anyone know?


In times of uncertainty you don’t know what kinds of people will take advantage of distraction and weakness to disrupt things like electricity, payment systems, banks, etc. In the last few months and completed unrelated (I hope) to politics, we’ve had 3 different grocery stores near us have their systems go down and only be able to accept cash. DH comes from a country with instability and always has a stupid amount of cash at home and a decent amount on his person, and he and one other guy were the only ones getting through the checkouts with cash in a store of hundreds of customers.

Similar thing happened to his colleagues in Madrid during the recent outage. Cash is an advantage in times of uncertainty.
Anonymous
Now would be a good time to stock up on seeds and other garden stuff if you’re inclined to gardening
Anonymous
Had to go to Home Depot three time week. This was in the morning on a weekday. There were more employees vs contractors and I had no problem parking close.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump officials seem to think so. They're stockpiling toilet paper, food and cash.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-officials-hoarding-supplies-trade-war-tariffs-1235329235/


Why stockpile cash? That makes no sense to me unless they are expecting bank runs and banks to fail. Anyone know?


In times of uncertainty you don’t know what kinds of people will take advantage of distraction and weakness to disrupt things like electricity, payment systems, banks, etc. In the last few months and completed unrelated (I hope) to politics, we’ve had 3 different grocery stores near us have their systems go down and only be able to accept cash. DH comes from a country with instability and always has a stupid amount of cash at home and a decent amount on his person, and he and one other guy were the only ones getting through the checkouts with cash in a store of hundreds of customers.

Similar thing happened to his colleagues in Madrid during the recent outage. Cash is an advantage in times of uncertainty.


Well, Noem is stockpiling cash.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am assuming the answer is yes.

Anyone know? If so, what are you stocking up on as far as food goes?


I remember how stocking up on anything made you a nutball righty-tighty "prepper".

Then Covid hit! Where's muh TP??

Fast forward.

Now you're worried about starving?

I guess the fable of "The Grasshopper and the Ant" wasn't a conspiracy to push a conservative lesson on people.
Anonymous
No. Vast majority of our food is produced / grown here. Main exceptions are a lot of booze imports and then produce. But a sizable amount of the produce comes from Mexico which is exempt from the extra 10% tariffs and most of the rest comes from Latin America - 10% is not great but a lot of produce costs seem to vary by much more than that throughout the year.

The only huge tariffs are from China. We import very little food from them. Agree with another pp that the main impact from that will be on the packaging and other industrial inputs involved in the factories that make processed food.

There will only be food shortages if people start hoarding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump officials seem to think so. They're stockpiling toilet paper, food and cash.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-officials-hoarding-supplies-trade-war-tariffs-1235329235/


Why stockpile cash? That makes no sense to me unless they are expecting bank runs and banks to fail. Anyone know?


In times of uncertainty you don’t know what kinds of people will take advantage of distraction and weakness to disrupt things like electricity, payment systems, banks, etc. In the last few months and completed unrelated (I hope) to politics, we’ve had 3 different grocery stores near us have their systems go down and only be able to accept cash. DH comes from a country with instability and always has a stupid amount of cash at home and a decent amount on his person, and he and one other guy were the only ones getting through the checkouts with cash in a store of hundreds of customers.

Similar thing happened to his colleagues in Madrid during the recent outage. Cash is an advantage in times of uncertainty.


Yes, and guess who wants to get rid of all cash in favor of digital payments only... because newer is always better.

"The more the plans fail, the more the planners plan." - Ronald Reagan
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Empty grocery shelves = the poor man's Ozempic


They will MAHA one way or the other.

Could be the opposite. Fresh fruits and vegetables may be unaffordable or unobtainable, but cheap carbs will still be readily available.


10%
That is all the tariff is on the whole world minus China (and Mexico/Canada food imports are not subject to it basically). Even if the higher tariffs take effect in July most of the countries where we get our produce from are FTA partners and we’re assigned the 10% level as their highest rate.

I’m not MAGA and can’t stand the president but people seem not to understand what is actually happening on this thread. Now clothes, toys, electronics - yeah Xmas is going to be brutal because all that is subject to 100%+ tariffs with so much of it coming from China.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. Vast majority of our food is produced / grown here. Main exceptions are a lot of booze imports and then produce. But a sizable amount of the produce comes from Mexico which is exempt from the extra 10% tariffs and most of the rest comes from Latin America - 10% is not great but a lot of produce costs seem to vary by much more than that throughout the year.

The only huge tariffs are from China. We import very little food from them. Agree with another pp that the main impact from that will be on the packaging and other industrial inputs involved in the factories that make processed food.

There will only be food shortages if people start hoarding.


Wrong. Many of the subcomponents for food production and their transport come from China. For example, packaging, raw chemicals, harvesting and farming equipment. Products to enhance transportation and production.

Sorry, but you don't have it all figured out.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I certainly hope so. It would be nice if at least one of the disasters predicted here came true.


Seriously. I stocked up at the beginning of Covid and it turns out it wasn't really necessary.


??? We were told clearly to not panic buy as the supply chain would not be overly affected by COVID.

Anytime there was a shortage in the store it was due to panic buying. And there was no shortage on produce.


Learn.

https://mises.org/mises-daily/i-pencil
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Empty grocery shelves = the poor man's Ozempic


They will MAHA one way or the other.

Could be the opposite. Fresh fruits and vegetables may be unaffordable or unobtainable, but cheap carbs will still be readily available.


This is what concerns me about the food supply. Most of what I eat comes from the produce department or frozen fruits and vegetables.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good luck with no migrants coming for their seasonal work.


Isn’t it a good thing that nobody is being shipped in to harvest your food for poverty wages? Why are we supporting the use of POC to make your life cheaper and better?
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