Sinners

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea how people thought Sinners was a good movie. There was nothing good about it in my opinion. Two brothers come back from Chicago and open up a dance hall. They recruit some guitar player who can't talk. Vampires attack them. Dumbest crap I've ever seen. I guess I missed all the meaning behind it. And as to MBJ....sure he did a great job playing two different but the same character but it wasn't like it was a great performance. Oh well.

2001: man goes to space. Nothing happens. Man dies.

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Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.

I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point

Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.

Crazy when you think that year also had The Conversation and Chinatown.

while commercially successful, I don't think people will be talking about Sinners 50 years later.

Get Out covered a lot of the same themes, was also in the horror genre, and I think will ultimately stick with me longer.

However the music/dance sequences in Sinners are really amazing and I think will be remembered both for the feelings they evoked and the technical way they were put together. That's the best part of the movie to me. I was underwhelmed by the rest but especially the end. I felt the movie just devolved into horror tropes in the third act.

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Anonymous wrote:I started watching it this two days ago with my 16 year old. We heard it was really good. I think he knew the plot but I had no clue. OK...SmokeStack bros come back home after being away in Chicago. I tliked them. They want to start a juke house where they can socialize, hear live music, dance, drink, etc. Brothers put together a band, get the food, etc...I'm like OK. No idea where this is going. Then vampires show up. I'm like...this has to be the DUMBEST idea in the history of film. Me and my son watched a little more and it got dumber and dumber. All the vampires are outside Irish dancing having a hoedown. We turned it off as it was getting late. We still have have like 40 minutes left and we didn't even think of finishing it yesterday. Maybe today. But man, this needs one hell of an ending to save it. Otherwise, it might be the dumbest movie I ever watched.

You’re missing all the allegory in this film. There’s a lot going on beneath the surface level plot. It reminds me of a Jordan Peele film. Very well done. The song scene was mind blowing. I’m a white woman if it matters.

Why would this matter? It doesn't make you understand the movie better.

I took it more as, "if I, a plain white woman, can understand this black centric metaphor, anyone can." I, a white woman, didn't get it. Even with these thin explanations. I'm intelligent enough to understand that, if you have to explain something 6 different ways for people to get it, it makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.

I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point

Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.

Eh, there are reasons that have less to do with the movies themselves.

Godfather II wouldn't receive technical nominations for things like visual effects and sound editing. 2001 wouldn't get nominations for acting or score. Neither had an original song attached to it.

More nominations tend to go to prestige, acting heavy movies that also feature a heavy technical element, have a prominent score and song. They ping more categories.

This is true. Sinner was unusual in that it's a technically extravagant, period, genre film that *also* has has the kind of writing, direction, and acting that tends to attract award nominations. Usually it's one or the other.

I do think Sinner is a good movie but people take the Oscars too seriously. Gladiator won the Oscar for best picture. That movie is really fun to watch but also dumb and full of silly, scenery-chewing performances. The Oscars aren't just about prestige. Sometimes it's just "which movie entertained us the most."

I am someone who vastly prefers small movies about relationships and people in rooms talking and relating to each other. These movies will never get as many nominations because they rarely have special effects or elaborate costumes or sets. And they are less likely to win Best Picture because when they get lined up against the "big" movies of the year, they feel small. But they are more affecting to me.

This is why I like international movies a lot, because they tend to have lower budgets and narrower focus, and that produces the kind of movie I like best. There are plenty of film awards that celebrate these movies, but the Oscars is rarely one of them.

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I have no idea why this movie got so much praise. It is a campy vampire movie for crying out loud. They should have given the Oscar to From Dusk Til Dawn if Sinners got showered with all this praise.

The bar gets lower and lower every year. It's only a matter of time until Michael Bay movies clean up Academy Awards.

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I thought Ethan Hawk should have won

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Oscars and awards are mostly political - like most things. Half the people who vote haven't even watched the movies.