Sinners

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought Sinners was brilliant in the same way that I thought Coogler's Black Panther was brilliant. Sinners was deeper and sadder but both manage to implant deeper themes into a rollicking good ride of a movie. The stories and scenes are tight ---nothing is extraneous---he tells stories like Spielberg. I loathed One Battle After Another. I thought it was pretentious, kind of boring, and just sort of stupid, though Sean Penn did deserve best supporting actor for his crazy colonel. Glad Michael Jordan won Best Actor but Sinners should have won Best Picture.


Agree 100%. I loved both Sinners and Black Panther. Coogler is crazy talented, and I loved the way he interacted with his cast and crew.
Anonymous
Vampires? Any other tired cliches? Any racist southern sheriffs?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I started watching it this two days ago with my 16 year old. We heard it was really good. I think he knew the plot but I had no clue. OK...SmokeStack bros come back home after being away in Chicago. I tliked them. They want to start a juke house where they can socialize, hear live music, dance, drink, etc. Brothers put together a band, get the food, etc...I'm like OK. No idea where this is going. Then vampires show up. I'm like...this has to be the DUMBEST idea in the history of film. Me and my son watched a little more and it got dumber and dumber. All the vampires are outside Irish dancing having a hoedown. We turned it off as it was getting late. We still have have like 40 minutes left and we didn't even think of finishing it yesterday. Maybe today. But man, this needs one hell of an ending to save it. Otherwise, it might be the dumbest movie I ever watched.


You’re missing all the allegory in this film. There’s a lot going on beneath the surface level plot. It reminds me of a Jordan Peele film. Very well done. The song scene was mind blowing. I’m a white woman if it matters.


Why would this matter? It doesn't make you understand the movie better.
Anonymous
Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.
Anonymous
I have no idea how people thought Sinners was a good movie. There was nothing good about it in my opinion. Two brothers come back from Chicago and open up a dance hall. They recruit some guitar player who can't talk. Vampires attack them. Dumbest crap I've ever seen. I guess I missed all the meaning behind it. And as to MBJ....sure he did a great job playing two different but the same character but it wasn't like it was a great performance. Oh well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.


I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point
Anonymous
I think Sinners particularly deserved that cinematography Oscar. Coogler's movies are always visually interesting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Sinners particularly deserved that cinematography Oscar. Coogler's movies are always visually interesting.


+1

I watch movies more to be entertained than focusing on the artistic side of it- but I noticed right away that Sinners was interesting and visually rich. I thought the cinematographer did a fantastic job and deserved an Oscar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Sinners particularly deserved that cinematography Oscar. Coogler's movies are always visually interesting.


+1

I watch movies more to be entertained than focusing on the artistic side of it- but I noticed right away that Sinners was interesting and visually rich. I thought the cinematographer did a fantastic job and deserved an Oscar.

Yes, it was visually beautiful. The costumes too were great.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.


I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point


Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.


I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point


Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.


Crazy when you think that year also had The Conversation and Chinatown.

while commercially successful, I don't think people will be talking about Sinners 50 years later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.


I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point


Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.


Crazy when you think that year also had The Conversation and Chinatown.

while commercially successful, I don't think people will be talking about Sinners 50 years later.


Past Lives, Enora...some pretty shitty winners lately. Not bad movies but not memorable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.


I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point


Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.


Eh, there are reasons that have less to do with the movies themselves.

Godfather II wouldn't receive technical nominations for things like visual effects and sound editing. 2001 wouldn't get nominations for acting or score. Neither had an original song attached to it.

More nominations tend to go to prestige, acting heavy movies that also feature a heavy technical element, have a prominent score and song. They ping more categories.
Anonymous


I can acknowledge everyone thinks it's great without submitting myself to violence and gore.

So I will take your word for it, OP

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sinners has the aesthetic of a Marvel movie. And that should only be seen as a compliment for those with prepubescent tastes.

It really is a shame that far superior films in the past by Black directors like Do the Right Thing, Devil in a Blue Dress, Killer of Sheep, etc. got overlooked by the Academy for racial reasons and they’re now overcompensating by hyping up middlebrow slop like Sinners.


I agree... but I'd even argue that most of Hollywood is disappointing, to the point that the Oscars don't really seem that meaningful anymore

I personally just prefer international film at this point


Let this sink in. Sinners received more nominations than Godfather 2 and 2001: A Space Odyssey COMBINED.


Do you know what a "category" is? There isn't a category for "extra best director"
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