The irony of RFK Jr

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What’s ironic is that he is in charge of HHS and he doesn’t believe in science or understand scientific research. He’s Trump’s creature.


One doe not "believe" in science, as that implies "faith" and make it a religion.

REAL SCIENCE is 100% about being skeptical. Question everything. Constantly trying to DISPROVE EVERYTHING, that is the Scientific Method.

Science is not about finding "proof" it is about finding things that cannot be disproven, while continuously trying to disprove them.


I am highly skeptical of all these data RFK jr is using to support his positions on food dyes.


Good. Skepticism is good in Science and government.

Too many "yes men" who just go along with the crowd and the rich 1%/politicians/government/corporations.

That's why RFK is appealing to the public, he's asking questions and shaking things up. The more pushback he gets, the more popular he becomes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s ironic is that he is in charge of HHS and he doesn’t believe in science or understand scientific research. He’s Trump’s creature.


One doe not "believe" in science, as that implies "faith" and make it a religion.

REAL SCIENCE is 100% about being skeptical. Question everything. Constantly trying to DISPROVE EVERYTHING, that is the Scientific Method.

Science is not about finding "proof" it is about finding things that cannot be disproven, while continuously trying to disprove them.


I am highly skeptical of all these data RFK jr is using to support his positions on food dyes.


Good. Skepticism is good in Science and government.

Too many "yes men" who just go along with the crowd and the rich 1%/politicians/government/corporations.

That's why RFK is appealing to the public, he's asking questions and shaking things up. The more pushback he gets, the more popular he becomes.


His position on dyes is not supported. Why is he making policy decisions based on unproven information?
Anonymous
People eat crap. People are [mostly preventably] obese. Get rid of some of the crap, a little at a time, and maybe we’ll start to see some improvement.

Not an RFK fan, but some changes like this could be good, teeny tiny, itsy-bitsy baby steps toward healthier citizens who can’t stop eating junk that’s not even real food.

That said — I do believe in vaccines, milk pasteurization, etc.
Anonymous
Great. So no food dyes but also no meat inspections and who cares if we never know about E. coli breakouts and there are no recalls for contaminated foods.

This man is crazy and his family told you so. He should be in charge of nothing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Whats the point of this registry? Why would anyone comply?!


You’ve missed a critical piece of this. It’s not an issue of compliance. RFK jr’s people will be scraping records containing what is supposed to be confidential information. This ranges from records for people on Medicare and Medicaid—- to records from Pharmacies, private insurance companies, smart watches, fitness devices and other sources. Apparently without explicit permission. Those of you who didn’t read the fine print on your 200 page customer agreements for your electronic devices have possibly already given consent though.

It should be obvious, but just in case it isn’t, and sort of data screening like this almost certainly involves looking at all of the data that they can get from any source about everyone that they can. While they might segregate the files of interest, the only way to determine which files are actually of interest is to examine any and all data sets that they have access to.

Who exactly has access to our medical data — and what they decide to do with it at any point in the future —will no longer be under our explicit control. No one is asking for consent here.



To add, No, I didn’t make up the parts about getting data from smart watches, fitness trackers and pharmacies. This stands out to me because the link between smart watch and fitness tracker data is what, exactly?



https://people.com/rfk-jr-to-launch-autism-registry-using-private-health-records-11720156


Period trackers.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I feel like MAGAs supported him because they were mad about Government telling them to get vaccinated and mask up....and now he is using Government to tell them they can't eat skittles and M&M's anymore.

Although I guess its sort of like people voting for Trump because they were mad the price of eggs went up, and so now the price of everything will go up.


He's a Kennedy, so people either like them or don't. He seems genuine and a good guy overall about wanting to help clean up the food that corporations and foreign sources have polluted.

Why on Earth are you against that?


He is not qualified or a good guy. Wtf.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whats the point of this registry? Why would anyone comply?!


You’ve missed a critical piece of this. It’s not an issue of compliance. RFK jr’s people will be scraping records containing what is supposed to be confidential information. This ranges from records for people on Medicare and Medicaid—- to records from Pharmacies, private insurance companies, smart watches, fitness devices and other sources. Apparently without explicit permission. Those of you who didn’t read the fine print on your 200 page customer agreements for your electronic devices have possibly already given consent though.

It should be obvious, but just in case it isn’t, and sort of data screening like this almost certainly involves looking at all of the data that they can get from any source about everyone that they can. While they might segregate the files of interest, the only way to determine which files are actually of interest is to examine any and all data sets that they have access to.

Who exactly has access to our medical data — and what they decide to do with it at any point in the future —will no longer be under our explicit control. No one is asking for consent here.



To add, No, I didn’t make up the parts about getting data from smart watches, fitness trackers and pharmacies. This stands out to me because the link between smart watch and fitness tracker data is what, exactly?



https://people.com/rfk-jr-to-launch-autism-registry-using-private-health-records-11720156


Period trackers.


That’s one of the things that I was thinking. AFAIK, those aren’t meaningful sources of data to start with if the focus is supposedly on autism.
Anonymous
What people need is to get him to do some good by hyping and motivating him to address major issues. If he does few stupid things, those can be changed once he is gone. We do need a crazy shaker to fight food and pharma.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What people need is to get him to do some good by hyping and motivating him to address major issues. If he does few stupid things, those can be changed once he is gone. We do need a crazy shaker to fight food and pharma.


How would you suggest getting him “to do some good” exactly?

It’s fascinating to me that people make suggestions like this. Remember when Presidents mostly just nominated the best people they could find for the job, those people had appropriate training and experience, and they didn’t need to be “hyped and motivated” by unspecified hypers and motivators to do their critically important jobs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s ironic is that he is in charge of HHS and he doesn’t believe in science or understand scientific research. He’s Trump’s creature.


One doe not "believe" in science, as that implies "faith" and make it a religion.

REAL SCIENCE is 100% about being skeptical. Question everything. Constantly trying to DISPROVE EVERYTHING, that is the Scientific Method.

Science is not about finding "proof" it is about finding things that cannot be disproven, while continuously trying to disprove them.


I am highly skeptical of all these data RFK jr is using to support his positions on food dyes.


Good. Skepticism is good in Science and government.

Too many "yes men" who just go along with the crowd and the rich 1%/politicians/government/corporations.

That's why RFK is appealing to the public, he's asking questions and shaking things up. The more pushback he gets, the more popular he becomes.


His position on dyes is not supported. Why is he making policy decisions based on unproven information?


Even IF dyes were 100% safe, no question about it, God/Nature/Science/SpaceAliens/Thor all agreed they were safe, WHY would you still want unnecessary colorings in your food?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What people need is to get him to do some good by hyping and motivating him to address major issues. If he does few stupid things, those can be changed once he is gone. We do need a crazy shaker to fight food and pharma.


How would you suggest getting him “to do some good” exactly?

It’s fascinating to me that people make suggestions like this. Remember when Presidents mostly just nominated the best people they could find for the job, those people had appropriate training and experience, and they didn’t need to be “hyped and motivated” by unspecified hypers and motivators to do their critically important jobs?


Oh you sweet summer child..... that you actually believe that.....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like MAGAs supported him because they were mad about Government telling them to get vaccinated and mask up....and now he is using Government to tell them they can't eat skittles and M&M's anymore.

Although I guess its sort of like people voting for Trump because they were mad the price of eggs went up, and so now the price of everything will go up.


He's a Kennedy, so people either like them or don't. He seems genuine and a good guy overall about wanting to help clean up the food that corporations and foreign sources have polluted.

Why on Earth are you against that?


He is not qualified or a good guy. Wtf.


Your opinions are noted, but there are 400 million people in the USA with opinions also.

It's best to deal with facts instead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Huh? This doesn’t make any sense and isn’t irony.


this does make sense, because when Michelle Obama and democrats tried to improve people's eating habits, the voters-who-would-become-MAGA went ballistic and screamed about the nanny state.

This is how you know that the GOP has truly become a cult. If Trump is for something, they're for it. Russia. Banning food dyes. TARIFFS for god's sake. These are all things the GOP of 15 years ago would have fought against tooth and nail.

(FWIW, there are some reasonable food dyes/additives to ban but the way RFK wants to do it would eliminate about 60 percent of the food in your grocery store).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What people need is to get him to do some good by hyping and motivating him to address major issues. If he does few stupid things, those can be changed once he is gone. We do need a crazy shaker to fight food and pharma.

Why do we need to fight pharma? The Sackler situation is not typical. Pharma does more good than harm. People repeat this but what do they really mean? I take life-saving meds and so do family members. Thank God for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What people need is to get him to do some good by hyping and motivating him to address major issues. If he does few stupid things, those can be changed once he is gone. We do need a crazy shaker to fight food and pharma.

Why do we need to fight pharma? The Sackler situation is not typical. Pharma does more good than harm. People repeat this but what do they really mean? I take life-saving meds and so do family members. Thank God for that.


Exactly!!!

The free market encourages these companies to do the research and sell their medicines. If there is no financial incentive the r&d doesn't get done and the medicines don't get developed. The alternative is to nationalize the r&d and pharmaceutical industry, in which case the diseases that get attention (and the r&d and medicines developed for) would be subjected to political and bureaucratic influence. As a woman, I sure as hell wouldn't want Donald Trump's HHS deciding which diseases to research and develop cures/treatments for.

So if you're saying "fight Pharma" be clear on exactly what you're talking about and what you think the problem is, and your solutions.
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