RFK Jr. Official Speech and Policy Decisions on Autism in NYT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we suffered enough?

He has clearly not read the studies that show eye tracking technology used on infants can help predict an autism diagnosis later on. BEFORE the MMR vaccine is given.

He claims genes can “do no more than predispose” someone to autism- but that is demonstrably false. There are certain genetic changes- chromosomal- that *cause* autism. No environmental impacts. Mild autism and moderate autism and severe autism. They account for 3-5% of diagnoses.

I was 32, yoga/Whole Foods healthy, fit when I got pregnant with my autistic son. Had an air purifier in my home and car. Drank purified water. When we went to genetics, they identified a genetic mutation.

And? Your child is the anomaly. The majority of autistic children do not have an identifiable genetic mutation. Fragile X, Rett, etc. are not commonplace especially among Level 1.

In terms of the impact and support needed, obviously the severe cases and those linked to a genetic disorder are the most important. The increase in level 1 cases is overdiagnosis caused by redefining a personality style as autism.

Agree to disagree. Even level 1 requires an immense amount of resources which most parents can’t afford to provide and public resources are dwindling by the day. Autism at every level is rising and it is an absolute crisis for the country.

[Anonymous]

I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

This is categorically false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

This is categorically false.

well, increase in vaccinations on the CDC schedule is a documented fact.

If you feel that the question of the cumulative effect of all the vaccines from 0 to 18 months has been studied - please post name of the study or pubmed link.

Simply saying that something is "categorically false" doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we suffered enough?

He has clearly not read the studies that show eye tracking technology used on infants can help predict an autism diagnosis later on. BEFORE the MMR vaccine is given.

He claims genes can “do no more than predispose” someone to autism- but that is demonstrably false. There are certain genetic changes- chromosomal- that *cause* autism. No environmental impacts. Mild autism and moderate autism and severe autism. They account for 3-5% of diagnoses.

I was 32, yoga/Whole Foods healthy, fit when I got pregnant with my autistic son. Had an air purifier in my home and car. Drank purified water. When we went to genetics, they identified a genetic mutation.

And? Your child is the anomaly. The majority of autistic children do not have an identifiable genetic mutation. Fragile X, Rett, etc. are not commonplace especially among Level 1.

In terms of the impact and support needed, obviously the severe cases and those linked to a genetic disorder are the most important. The increase in level 1 cases is overdiagnosis caused by redefining a personality style as autism.

Agree to disagree. Even level 1 requires an immense amount of resources which most parents can’t afford to provide and public resources are dwindling by the day. Autism at every level is rising and it is an absolute crisis for the country.

Dp. I’m sorry, no. Just no. You need to go volunteer for level 3 respite care because there is literally no comparison to level 1 and level 3 in terms of the resources needed.

[Anonymous]

I think this guy is bogus. If he were on a quest to discover environmental toxings causing autism, he wouldn’t have gotten stuck on vaccines.

That doesn’t even make sense except that it feels scary to people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

This is categorically false.

well, increase in vaccinations on the CDC schedule is a documented fact.

If you feel that the question of the cumulative effect of all the vaccines from 0 to 18 months has been studied - please post name of the study or pubmed link.

Simply saying that something is "categorically false" doesn't make it so.

They have absolutely studied this and shown not even a correlation between vaccines and autism.

Autism diagnoses are on the rise because they are diagnosing it better and the diagnostic criteria have shifted.

[Anonymous]

If you’re in this forum, this is a direct assault on someone you love. If you don’t see that, you’re failing someone you love. Wake the f**k up for the sake of your child who needs you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in this forum, this is a direct assault on someone you love. If you don’t see that, you’re failing someone you love. Wake the f**k up for the sake of your child who needs you.

How is this an assault? He is not advocating discontinuation of any services to the existing children with an ASD diagnosis.

Your extreme tone and profanity are the root cause of why we have what we have right now in this country. Tolerating the existence of a different point of view would go a long way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in this forum, this is a direct assault on someone you love. If you don’t see that, you’re failing someone you love. Wake the f**k up for the sake of your child who needs you.

How is this an assault? He is not advocating discontinuation of any services to the existing children with an ASD diagnosis.

Your extreme tone and profanity are the root cause of why we have what we have right now in this country. Tolerating the existence of a different point of view would go a long way.

DP. I don’t think that his speech is an assault. However, him just rolling over on cutting funding for services that are crucial to so many is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

This is categorically false.

well, increase in vaccinations on the CDC schedule is a documented fact.

If you feel that the question of the cumulative effect of all the vaccines from 0 to 18 months has been studied - please post name of the study or pubmed link.

Simply saying that something is "categorically false" doesn't make it so.

They have absolutely studied this and shown not even a correlation between vaccines and autism.

Autism diagnoses are on the rise because they are diagnosing it better and the diagnostic criteria have shifted.

Don’t know about the vaccine thing but the bolded is categorically false. That does not account for the entirety of the increase and you aren’t going to find any legitimate sources to say otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't like him or the administration. However, if he can take a different look at this, I am willing to listen to what they come up with. If it's garbage, we're no worse than we're now. If they find something, then it can be discussed on its own merits.

We know that there have been studies of individual vaccine safety, yes. They are properly done and well documented. However, nobody studied the effect of 20+ vaccinations before the age of 18 months. That's a really big question. Those born in 70s, 80s and 90s didn't have as many vaccination at this early an age.

This is categorically false.

well, increase in vaccinations on the CDC schedule is a documented fact.

If you feel that the question of the cumulative effect of all the vaccines from 0 to 18 months has been studied - please post name of the study or pubmed link.

Simply saying that something is "categorically false" doesn't make it so.

They have absolutely studied this and shown not even a correlation between vaccines and autism.

Autism diagnoses are on the rise because they are diagnosing it better and the diagnostic criteria have shifted.

I agree with your first paragraph but your second paragraph doesn’t tell the whole story. There’s been some preliminary researching linking gut biome to neurological conditions including autism and adhd -/ I’d rather see money directed at that research. Kids in the 1970s weren’t eating meat and milk pumped full of antibiotics. Our gut biome has gone to crap over the past few decades and it’s definitely affecting our brains. Plastics might also be something to look at. But spending more money on the vaccine link is just a waste of money. Maybe we should let scientists decide where research dollars should go, instead of spoiled rich kid drug addicts trying to prove they aren’t a total waste of space?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven’t we suffered enough?

He has clearly not read the studies that show eye tracking technology used on infants can help predict an autism diagnosis later on. BEFORE the MMR vaccine is given.

He claims genes can “do no more than predispose” someone to autism- but that is demonstrably false. There are certain genetic changes- chromosomal- that *cause* autism. No environmental impacts. Mild autism and moderate autism and severe autism. They account for 3-5% of diagnoses.

I was 32, yoga/Whole Foods healthy, fit when I got pregnant with my autistic son. Had an air purifier in my home and car. Drank purified water. When we went to genetics, they identified a genetic mutation.

And? Your child is the anomaly. The majority of autistic children do not have an identifiable genetic mutation. Fragile X, Rett, etc. are not commonplace especially among Level 1.

In terms of the impact and support needed, obviously the severe cases and those linked to a genetic disorder are the most important. The increase in level 1 cases is overdiagnosis caused by redefining a personality style as autism.

Agree to disagree. Even level 1 requires an immense amount of resources which most parents can’t afford to provide and public resources are dwindling by the day. Autism at every level is rising and it is an absolute crisis for the country.

The definition of level 1 is literally not that.

Level 1 Autism with UMC Privileged Expectations of Going to an Ivy and Getting a Job on Wall Street and Marrying a Millionaire Heiress may require extensive support, but is not the DSM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in this forum, this is a direct assault on someone you love. If you don’t see that, you’re failing someone you love. Wake the f**k up for the sake of your child who needs you.

How is this an assault? He is not advocating discontinuation of any services to the existing children with an ASD diagnosis.

Your extreme tone and profanity are the root cause of why we have what we have right now in this country. Tolerating the existence of a different point of view would go a long way.

What a freakin’ joke. A crackpot non-scientist ruining our health care research agencies is not a “different point of view” to tolerate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how no one (like Fauci, Hotez, etc.) will debate RFK on the vaccine issue.

You can't debate a insane liar. RFK discredits himself with everything he says. If you can't see that, there is no hope of reasoning with you through debate.

I believe RFK is a space lizard trying to enslave humanity, and you are one of his minions. Are you going to drop everything and debate me?