Reluctant Harris Voters Can At Least Live with Themselves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fox News wasn't reporting on the stock market crash yesterday. MAGA live in a cocoon of misinformation. They will never admit that they were wrong.

Didn’t they take the stock ticker off the screen? Gee, I wonder why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox News wasn't reporting on the stock market crash yesterday. MAGA live in a cocoon of misinformation. They will never admit that they were wrong.

Didn’t they take the stock ticker off the screen? Gee, I wonder why.

"I don't really care about my 401k today!" Jeanine Pirro is apparently ride or die on Trump tariffs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5D8qckKN1qk



I guess it help when your ex gets a pardon from Trump 1.0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know hindsight is 20/20. I did not vote for either candidate. Maybe not the same mistakes or chaos but you gave zero ability to foresee what kind of madness Kamala would have made in her term. You can feel better but the truth is I had zero confidence in either of them.

You are lying if you say you guarantee things would be better wirunning the show. Again, there's no way to know. This is what we have and we can all drown in our sorrows but I have zero regrets. These things aren't for second guessing and you putting guilt trips on people is wrong.

We all have regrets but people like you who focus on making themselves feel better is called being weak and insufferable. You need to just be happy with you'd own decision. You do not vote for anyone else. Even Trump voters who may or may not have regrets - that's their business. You take care of you and leave it at that. One day I'm sure you'll be shamed into feeling something you shouldn't be ashamed of. You have your rights to live as you want as does everyone else. If you don't believe in this then please get out of this country!

DP - nope! All of us who did not vote for this crazed narcissist absolutely feel better than if we did. Anyone with half a brain knows Harris would have been better with a calling to serve ALL Americans (not just rich straight Christian men) and filling her cabinet with competent people (not lunatics and DEIs I mean DUIs) Sorry but you have to live with the fact that no vote was a vote for Trump.

[Anonymous]

NP. I am a moderate Democrat. I knew Harris was going to lose. I knew Biden was going to lose months before he stepped down. I tried to warn people, I tried to say they were generationally weak candidates. I also tried to warn people that Democratic social policies were extremely unpopular and they came across as the party of ineffective scolds.

All that got me insulted and attacked as a Trump supporter on DCUM and occasionally in real life.

But I’m not. I am about as far from a Trump supporter as you can get. I voted enthusiastically for Harris. I would never have voted for Trump, not in a million years. I also knew how bad this would be, or I thought I did. It’s actually far worse than I thought it would be.

I’m so angry these days. I’m furious at the Trump voters. Harris and Biden were awful. Yes. But this is so much worse. I’m not sure we survive Trump as a country.

I am also furious at the Democratic cultists who refused to see the truth in front of them. We are here in part because Democrat loyalists refused to acknowledge reality.

I’m angry a lot right now. Being able to say “I told you so” doesn’t mean much when the country might not survive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I am a moderate Democrat. I knew Harris was going to lose. I knew Biden was going to lose months before he stepped down. I tried to warn people, I tried to say they were generationally weak candidates. I also tried to warn people that Democratic social policies were extremely unpopular and they came across as the party of ineffective scolds.

All that got me insulted and attacked as a Trump supporter on DCUM and occasionally in real life.

But I’m not. I am about as far from a Trump supporter as you can get. I voted enthusiastically for Harris. I would never have voted for Trump, not in a million years. I also knew how bad this would be, or I thought I did. It’s actually far worse than I thought it would be.

I’m so angry these days. I’m furious at the Trump voters. Harris and Biden were awful. Yes. But this is so much worse. I’m not sure we survive Trump as a country.

I am also furious at the Democratic cultists who refused to see the truth in front of them. We are here in part because Democrat loyalists refused to acknowledge reality.

I’m angry a lot right now. Being able to say “I told you so” doesn’t mean much when the country might not survive.

+100000 I tried to explain how nominating Biden in 2020 was a terrible idea that would likely leave the Dem Party in a very weak position in 2024. All but maybe a handful in my network of family and friends and on message boards cared to listen. Biden's 2024 collapse leading to a Trump second term was the worst case scenario of all the possible outcomes of Biden being the 2020 nominee but it wasn't an unpredictable outcome.

Who we vote for matters as much as who we vote against. Weakness breeds further weakness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I am a moderate Democrat. I knew Harris was going to lose. I knew Biden was going to lose months before he stepped down. I tried to warn people, I tried to say they were generationally weak candidates. I also tried to warn people that Democratic social policies were extremely unpopular and they came across as the party of ineffective scolds.

All that got me insulted and attacked as a Trump supporter on DCUM and occasionally in real life.

But I’m not. I am about as far from a Trump supporter as you can get. I voted enthusiastically for Harris. I would never have voted for Trump, not in a million years. I also knew how bad this would be, or I thought I did. It’s actually far worse than I thought it would be.

I’m so angry these days. I’m furious at the Trump voters. Harris and Biden were awful. Yes. But this is so much worse. I’m not sure we survive Trump as a country.

I am also furious at the Democratic cultists who refused to see the truth in front of them. We are here in part because Democrat loyalists refused to acknowledge reality.

I’m angry a lot right now. Being able to say “I told you so” doesn’t mean much when the country might not survive.

+100000 I tried to explain how nominating Biden in 2020 was a terrible idea that would likely leave the Dem Party in a very weak position in 2024. All but maybe a handful in my network of family and friends and on message boards cared to listen. Biden's 2024 collapse leading to a Trump second term was the worst case scenario of all the possible outcomes of Biden being the 2020 nominee but it wasn't an unpredictable outcome.

Who we vote for matters as much as who we vote against. Weakness breeds further weakness.

I’m in the same camp! Will also add that I know former Trump supporters who have buyer’s remorse. Better late than never…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I am a moderate Democrat. I knew Harris was going to lose. I knew Biden was going to lose months before he stepped down. I tried to warn people, I tried to say they were generationally weak candidates. I also tried to warn people that Democratic social policies were extremely unpopular and they came across as the party of ineffective scolds.

All that got me insulted and attacked as a Trump supporter on DCUM and occasionally in real life.

But I’m not. I am about as far from a Trump supporter as you can get. I voted enthusiastically for Harris. I would never have voted for Trump, not in a million years. I also knew how bad this would be, or I thought I did. It’s actually far worse than I thought it would be.

I’m so angry these days. I’m furious at the Trump voters. Harris and Biden were awful. Yes. But this is so much worse. I’m not sure we survive Trump as a country.

I am also furious at the Democratic cultists who refused to see the truth in front of them. We are here in part because Democrat loyalists refused to acknowledge reality.

I’m angry a lot right now. Being able to say “I told you so” doesn’t mean much when the country might not survive.

+100000 I tried to explain how nominating Biden in 2020 was a terrible idea that would likely leave the Dem Party in a very weak position in 2024. All but maybe a handful in my network of family and friends and on message boards cared to listen. Biden's 2024 collapse leading to a Trump second term was the worst case scenario of all the possible outcomes of Biden being the 2020 nominee but it wasn't an unpredictable outcome.

Who we vote for matters as much as who we vote against. Weakness breeds further weakness.

I’m in the same camp! Will also add that I know former Trump supporters who have buyer’s remorse. Better late than never…

I kinda hope Trump does figure out a way to run for a third term so that Dems have the opportunity to nominate a legitimate presidential candidate that will put Trump and MAGA in their graves with the Reaganesque style of butt kicking they deserve. 500 electoral votes and 65% of the popular vote going against Trump in 2028 is what is needed to shut him up for good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

I’m the PP moderate Democrat who knew Harris would lose. You are one the Democratic cultists I am angry with.

Look at videos of Harris. Really look at them, and not just cherry-picked ones. She wasn’t seen as a lightweight because of her (largely unknown) policy positions, she was seen as a lightweight because she could not communicate clearly when it mattered.

Probably the worst moment of the campaign was when she was on the View and when given the chance in a super friendly environment, she could not distance herself from Biden at all. She could not come up with a single critical position, a single word to distance herself from a monumentally unpopular president that most of the country thought was braindead by that point. That is definitionally lightweight. How could it be anything else but?

How can someone who cannot articulate her own positions even when given the most friendly of audiences go face to face with Putin? With Xi? It was an impossibility, of course, and only Democratic cult members refused to see it. Everyone else did see it. And Trump, probably one of the worst candidates we’ve ever seen, won as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

I’m the PP moderate Democrat who knew Harris would lose. You are one the Democratic cultists I am angry with.

Look at videos of Harris. Really look at them, and not just cherry-picked ones. She wasn’t seen as a lightweight because of her (largely unknown) policy positions, she was seen as a lightweight because she could not communicate clearly when it mattered.

Probably the worst moment of the campaign was when she was on the View and when given the chance in a super friendly environment, she could not distance herself from Biden at all. She could not come up with a single critical position, a single word to distance herself from a monumentally unpopular president that most of the country thought was braindead by that point. That is definitionally lightweight. How could it be anything else but?

How can someone who cannot articulate her own positions even when given the most friendly of audiences go face to face with Putin? With Xi? It was an impossibility, of course, and only Democratic cult members refused to see it. Everyone else did see it. And Trump, probably one of the worst candidates we’ve ever seen, won as a result.

While Trump was so erudite in articulating how he would better all Americans, and who’s doing such a bang-up job on the world stage right now, amirite? Hypocrites like you are the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

I’m the PP moderate Democrat who knew Harris would lose. You are one the Democratic cultists I am angry with.

Look at videos of Harris. Really look at them, and not just cherry-picked ones. She wasn’t seen as a lightweight because of her (largely unknown) policy positions, she was seen as a lightweight because she could not communicate clearly when it mattered.

Probably the worst moment of the campaign was when she was on the View and when given the chance in a super friendly environment, she could not distance herself from Biden at all. She could not come up with a single critical position, a single word to distance herself from a monumentally unpopular president that most of the country thought was braindead by that point. That is definitionally lightweight. How could it be anything else but?

How can someone who cannot articulate her own positions even when given the most friendly of audiences go face to face with Putin? With Xi? It was an impossibility, of course, and only Democratic cult members refused to see it. Everyone else did see it. And Trump, probably one of the worst candidates we’ve ever seen, won as a result.

While Trump was so erudite in articulating how he would better all Americans, and who’s doing such a bang-up job on the world stage right now, amirite? Hypocrites like you are the worst.

Oh for God’s sake. Trump is awful. I believe I made that extremely clear. But Trump being awful, truly and horrifically awful, did not magically make Harris a good, heavyweight candidate. Leave the freaking cult!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

I’m the PP moderate Democrat who knew Harris would lose. You are one the Democratic cultists I am angry with.

Look at videos of Harris. Really look at them, and not just cherry-picked ones. She wasn’t seen as a lightweight because of her (largely unknown) policy positions, she was seen as a lightweight because she could not communicate clearly when it mattered.

Probably the worst moment of the campaign was when she was on the View and when given the chance in a super friendly environment, she could not distance herself from Biden at all. She could not come up with a single critical position, a single word to distance herself from a monumentally unpopular president that most of the country thought was braindead by that point. That is definitionally lightweight. How could it be anything else but?

How can someone who cannot articulate her own positions even when given the most friendly of audiences go face to face with Putin? With Xi? It was an impossibility, of course, and only Democratic cult members refused to see it. Everyone else did see it. And Trump, probably one of the worst candidates we’ve ever seen, won as a result.

While Trump was so erudite in articulating how he would better all Americans, and who’s doing such a bang-up job on the world stage right now, amirite? Hypocrites like you are the worst.

Oh for God’s sake. Trump is awful. I believe I made that extremely clear. But Trump being awful, truly and horrifically awful, did not magically make Harris a good, heavyweight candidate. Leave the freaking cult!!

Kamala was so bad she made me vote for Trump! Real winner you have there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

I’m the PP moderate Democrat who knew Harris would lose. You are one the Democratic cultists I am angry with.

Look at videos of Harris. Really look at them, and not just cherry-picked ones. She wasn’t seen as a lightweight because of her (largely unknown) policy positions, she was seen as a lightweight because she could not communicate clearly when it mattered.

Probably the worst moment of the campaign was when she was on the View and when given the chance in a super friendly environment, she could not distance herself from Biden at all. She could not come up with a single critical position, a single word to distance herself from a monumentally unpopular president that most of the country thought was braindead by that point. That is definitionally lightweight. How could it be anything else but?

How can someone who cannot articulate her own positions even when given the most friendly of audiences go face to face with Putin? With Xi? It was an impossibility, of course, and only Democratic cult members refused to see it. Everyone else did see it. And Trump, probably one of the worst candidates we’ve ever seen, won as a result.

While Trump was so erudite in articulating how he would better all Americans, and who’s doing such a bang-up job on the world stage right now, amirite? Hypocrites like you are the worst.

Oh for God’s sake. Trump is awful. I believe I made that extremely clear. But Trump being awful, truly and horrifically awful, did not magically make Harris a good, heavyweight candidate. Leave the freaking cult!!

All true but none of this was the fault of Harris or the folks that had no choice but to vote for her in 2024. What was Harris supposed to do? Say "no" to being the last minute replacement of Biden as the 2024 nominee? Biden being an unfit and unpopular incumbent seeking a second POTUS term up until 3 months prior to the election put the Dem party in a compromised position.

Harris never claimed to be God's gift to the American people as the Dem nominee. She knew her limitations. She campaigned her tail off, kicked Trump's butt in their one debate, and did all she could help the party rebound from the Biden 2024 campaign debacle. Blame Biden and those who were responsible for securing his nomination in 2020. Harris and her 2024 voters aren't the reason Trump was elected to a second term.

[Anonymous]

Harris would have been a respected leader who served the people not herself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't the most enthusiastic supporter of Kamala Harris. Thought she was a lightweight who refused to take clear stands on some of the important issues of the day.

But I voted for her because I thought she was fundamentally decent, willing to surround herself with smart people, and smart enough to listen to them when she knew they had more expertise than she did.

I am so glad I went ahead and did that, despite my reservations. If I had voted for Trump, only to watch him destroy the American economy and so many people's lives in such a short period (aided and abetted by unelected circus freaks like Musk), I would seriously be considering ending it all now. As it stands, it's going to take a lot of endurance to survive the havoc he is wreaking, but at least some of us are not totally consumed with regret for having voted for this idiot. As for those of you who did, I hope you fully embraced the utter nihilism of it all before you voted for him.

I appreciate that you still voted for her. That said, I literally do not know how you can hold this view. Her platform was very clear. She has worked her way up in the legal and political field. She is smart, well-spoken. And yet this was your takeaway??

Women in this country are judged more harshly than men. And I really think no woman, of any experience or intelligence or work ethic, would be enough for Americans.

I’m the PP moderate Democrat who knew Harris would lose. You are one the Democratic cultists I am angry with.

Look at videos of Harris. Really look at them, and not just cherry-picked ones. She wasn’t seen as a lightweight because of her (largely unknown) policy positions, she was seen as a lightweight because she could not communicate clearly when it mattered.

Probably the worst moment of the campaign was when she was on the View and when given the chance in a super friendly environment, she could not distance herself from Biden at all. She could not come up with a single critical position, a single word to distance herself from a monumentally unpopular president that most of the country thought was braindead by that point. That is definitionally lightweight. How could it be anything else but?

How can someone who cannot articulate her own positions even when given the most friendly of audiences go face to face with Putin? With Xi? It was an impossibility, of course, and only Democratic cult members refused to see it. Everyone else did see it. And Trump, probably one of the worst candidates we’ve ever seen, won as a result.

While Trump was so erudite in articulating how he would better all Americans, and who’s doing such a bang-up job on the world stage right now, amirite? Hypocrites like you are the worst.

Oh for God’s sake. Trump is awful. I believe I made that extremely clear. But Trump being awful, truly and horrifically awful, did not magically make Harris a good, heavyweight candidate. Leave the freaking cult!!

Kamala was so bad she made me vote for Trump! Real winner you have there.

Ohhhhhh. You can’t understand the concept of a reluctant Harris voter.

Let me try to break this down for you slowly. This thread is about reluctant Harris voters. In other words, people who didn’t vote for Trump, but who saw what an abysmal candidate she was. I understand that is a concept that is too hard for you to grasp, so you have to take the position that anyone who wasn’t a cultist Democrat must have voted for Trump. But in fact, many people outside the blue cult saw Harris for the incredibly weak candidate she was, yet still voted for her. I understand the blue cultists cannot comprehend the concept of a reluctant Harris or Biden voters, but that is why you need to leave the cult. Your world view is as simple as a MAGA’s right now.