Trump cuts 400 Million in grants to Columbia over Antisemtism.

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Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


Does a Jewish person HAVE to be pro Israel ?


Are the only 2 choices (1) not caring if Israel ceases to exist, or (2) being “pro Israel”?

Obviously not.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump hates intellectuals. Since COVID he was thoroughly embarrassed as biologists and doctors ran circles around him. He tried to get involved in something that was way out of his job description. He will never forgive those who made him look like a fool.


He also bears an incredible grudge against NYC elites. Expect the federal attack on NYC institutions to continue apace as trump attempts to vent his spleen.


Who is more NYC elite than the man with many NYC buildings with his own name on them?!?

That's just it. NY elite have always considered him to be a dumb, vulgar clown. They never accepted him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.


What about the rights Palestinians to exist?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.


What about the rights Palestinians to exist?


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This. Also married into the tribe and my Jewish husband feels as I do. Enough of the Israel worship. We shouldn’t be funding their lifestyle, wars and religious supremacy. Neither side has a moral high ground here, but we are not financing the other side and letting them interfere in our elections, our colleges, trample on first amendment rights, etc and then play the victim card.
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Why stop at Columbia? I’d be ok with ending all federal support for Ivy League schools. Let them draw down the endowments instead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So Jewish students at Columbia get shafted too? There’s a huge Jewish student population there.


Exactly. Why can't previous posters see this? Jewish students will get doubly punished.

Violent protesters or protesters who trespass or damage property should be arrested and charged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.


The ratio of dead civilians on either side tells a different take. No one who kills twenty-five times more people than, as retribution, has the moral high ground.

What happened on Oct 7th what truly horrific. But Israel lost the moral high ground since. It's really sad, because they had all the free nations of the world on their side in the aftermath of Oct 7th, DESPITE oppressing the Palestinians for decades.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.


The ratio of dead civilians on either side tells a different take. No one who kills twenty-five times more people than, as retribution, has the moral high ground.

What happened on Oct 7th what truly horrific. But Israel lost the moral high ground since. It's really sad, because they had all the free nations of the world on their side in the aftermath of Oct 7th, DESPITE oppressing the Palestinians for decades.



Disagree. The response to Oct 7 has been designed to eliminate the threat and to obtain the release of the hostages, not to exact some kind of moral equivalence. As long as Hamas maintains a military capability and holds hostages, Hamas is fair game. That they hide among civilians does not reduce the threat they pose, or reduce the impact of their continuing to hold hostages.

The carnage in Gaza could end immediately, if Hamas releases the hostages and lays down its arms. Until then, there is a moral imperative that the efforts to obliterate them continue. They hold the keys to stopping civilian casualties.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump hates intellectuals. Since COVID he was thoroughly embarrassed as biologists and doctors ran circles around him. He tried to get involved in something that was way out of his job description. He will never forgive those who made him look like a fool.


He also bears an incredible grudge against NYC elites. Expect the federal attack on NYC institutions to continue apace as trump attempts to vent his spleen.


Who is more NYC elite than the man with many NYC buildings with his own name on them?!?

That's just it. NY elite have always considered him to be a dumb, vulgar clown. They never accepted him.


Yes, and I heard (from a Jewish journalist) that the reason he likes Jewish people is that they were the only ones who didn’t turn their noses up at him.
Anonymous
How is this not DEI??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.


And this is why peace in the Middle East is so elusive: no empathy for the Palestinians who are truly truly in pain. Have you read the book The Lemon Tree? It tells the story of Israel from the perspective of a Palestinian and an Israeli Jew. Bottom line - the Palestinian had his hand blown up by a bomb disguised as a toy left and outside his family’s home. Think of all Israel has blown up in their current war and all the lives lost.

Nothing wrong with protesting that IMO.
Anonymous
Just angry that his spawn was rejected from Columbia? Everything is petty and personal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This will last about 15 minutes before it is overturned on First Amendment grounds, but maybe the pro Israel folks can take a half minute to reflect on how bad it looks that they are lining up to support someone whose playbook is looking surprisingly Hitleresque, and what this might mean for the long term support of your country?

As someone who married into the tribe, I can honestly say I don’t not care one bit if Israel seeks to exist tomorrow because I’m sick of them meddling in my country. And they only have themselves to blame.


Assume that this marriage is past tense.


Present. And my actively Jewish spouse is sick of their crap, too. We live in America and not Israel for a reason.


And she, like you, “doesn’t care if Israel [ceases] to exist”?

Strange sort of “actively Jewish” spouse you have.


+1. My in-laws are all Jewish in various degrees of observance. My spouse is not religious but still considers himself Jewish. And the general consensus is that Israel has the right (and the imperative!) to exist and to defend itself. And also that Netanyahu and the West Bank settlers do Israel no favors. But that Hamas/Iran/etc are to blame here.


The ratio of dead civilians on either side tells a different take. No one who kills twenty-five times more people than, as retribution, has the moral high ground.

What happened on Oct 7th what truly horrific. But Israel lost the moral high ground since. It's really sad, because they had all the free nations of the world on their side in the aftermath of Oct 7th, DESPITE oppressing the Palestinians for decades.



Disagree. The response to Oct 7 has been designed to eliminate the threat and to obtain the release of the hostages, not to exact some kind of moral equivalence. As long as Hamas maintains a military capability and holds hostages, Hamas is fair game. That they hide among civilians does not reduce the threat they pose, or reduce the impact of their continuing to hold hostages.

The carnage in Gaza could end immediately, if Hamas releases the hostages and lays down its arms. Until then, there is a moral imperative that the efforts to obliterate them continue. They hold the keys to stopping civilian casualties.

You sound simple.
Netanyahu could have obtained the release of the hostages a long time ago.
He wants his ‘mighty vengeance’ against ‘human animals’ and the generation that followed the holocaust is ready to kill them all
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No one threatened anyone,they were just peacefully protesting.

Protesting Israel is not the same thing as being anti Semitic, however much Israeli's and their supporters may believe.


Masked keffiah types disrupting a class on Jewish history, and blocking students from going to class. These Stormtrooper tactics have to stop. Columbia did not enforce their own rules. Biden’s Department of Education just talked and slow walked everything. Now it’s Trump time!
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