What’s the real deal with athletic recruiting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry what’s all this with MIT?? What sports? I just can’t see very serious athletes wanting to go to MIT…

At least not for football undergrad. After sports? Grad school, yes. John Urshel comes to mind. https://libguides.mit.edu/mindandmatter

I just don’t see kids dreaming of sports thinking ‘I hope I can play for MIT someday!’. I appreciate that it may be a hook, but personally I don’t think that’s a great reason for a parent to encourage a sport. If a kid is isn’t it totally independently, great. But I suspect there’s some parent interference with some parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So yes, OP. A recruited athlete may be well within a school’s academic profile but many of them are, as you say, “off.” And for those within the profile, the recruited athlete will get in before another student with comparable stats who is not recruited. It’s a huge bump.

The ones I like are the ones who use the hook with every intention of dropping the sport after their first season. All within the rules but so very calculating.

Op, totally agree and that is why I’m a little incredulous that MIT is being mentioned so often on this chain. Not exactly known as a school for serious athletes. I’ve also noticed the retention rates for recruits (to finish college on the team) are rarely more than 50 or 60 percent. Not sure if that includes kids who use the transfer portal or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:D3 schools say they don't offer athletic scholarships. They will figure out how to get your athlete money if he/she is a very good athlete. Division 1 will bend the academic rules to get all star level player in. One of my kids is a D1 athlete. The school had an immediate need for his specialized position. He was accepted, enrolled and had a class schedule within an hour of agreeing to go in. Most kids in his sport have to play a year or two of Jr's, which is why he was able to go in on a days notice basically.

Thanks, this is what I think I’m seeing. Technically no money for sports at d3 but merit money.

Congrats to your dc!!! My dc wants d1 but between me and the walls, I don’t think it’s going to happen but I can’t say that out loud. This is make or break time so he’s nervous. Can I ask how it’s gone for your dc so far? Any regrets? Anything you’d recommend?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The kid from DC’s school who just got into MIT for his sport had SAT of 1550+ and is in MV Calc/Linear Algebra.

What do you think fool

What sport?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry what’s all this with MIT?? What sports? I just can’t see very serious athletes wanting to go to MIT…

At least not for football undergrad. After sports? Grad school, yes. John Urshel comes to mind. https://libguides.mit.edu/mindandmatter

I just don’t see kids dreaming of sports thinking ‘I hope I can play for MIT someday!’. I appreciate that it may be a hook, but personally I don’t think that’s a great reason for a parent to encourage a sport. If a kid is isn’t it totally independently, great. But I suspect there’s some parent interference with some parents

Do you know how to write coherently

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry what’s all this with MIT?? What sports? I just can’t see very serious athletes wanting to go to MIT…

At least not for football undergrad. After sports? Grad school, yes. John Urshel comes to mind. https://libguides.mit.edu/mindandmatter

I just don’t see kids dreaming of sports thinking ‘I hope I can play for MIT someday!’. I appreciate that it may be a hook, but personally I don’t think that’s a great reason for a parent to encourage a sport. If a kid is isn’t it totally independently, great. But I suspect there’s some parent interference with some parents

Do you know how to write coherently

lol I guess not. I’m just a dumb jock 🙃

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry what’s all this with MIT?? What sports? I just can’t see very serious athletes wanting to go to MIT…

At least not for football undergrad. After sports? Grad school, yes. John Urshel comes to mind. https://libguides.mit.edu/mindandmatter

I just don’t see kids dreaming of sports thinking ‘I hope I can play for MIT someday!’. I appreciate that it may be a hook, but personally I don’t think that’s a great reason for a parent to encourage a sport. If a kid is isn’t it totally independently, great. But I suspect there’s some parent interference with some parents

Do you know how to write coherently

Funny how the knives come out with some parents on the topic of college and if sports are being used as admission hooks

I mean, do we not remember Varsity Blues??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:D3 schools say they don't offer athletic scholarships. They will figure out how to get your athlete money if he/she is a very good athlete. Division 1 will bend the academic rules to get all star level player in. One of my kids is a D1 athlete. The school had an immediate need for his specialized position. He was accepted, enrolled and had a class schedule within an hour of agreeing to go in. Most kids in his sport have to play a year or two of Jr's, which is why he was able to go in on a days notice basically.

Sounds like hockey. Was your kid a goalie? S/he must be good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry what’s all this with MIT?? What sports? I just can’t see very serious athletes wanting to go to MIT…

At least not for football undergrad. After sports? Grad school, yes. John Urshel comes to mind. https://libguides.mit.edu/mindandmatter

I just don’t see kids dreaming of sports thinking ‘I hope I can play for MIT someday!’. I appreciate that it may be a hook, but personally I don’t think that’s a great reason for a parent to encourage a sport. If a kid is isn’t it totally independently, great. But I suspect there’s some parent interference with some parents

Do you know how to write coherently

How are your dc’s fencing lessons going?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry what’s all this with MIT?? What sports? I just can’t see very serious athletes wanting to go to MIT…

At least not for football undergrad. After sports? Grad school, yes. John Urshel comes to mind. https://libguides.mit.edu/mindandmatter

I just don’t see kids dreaming of sports thinking ‘I hope I can play for MIT someday!’. I appreciate that it may be a hook, but personally I don’t think that’s a great reason for a parent to encourage a sport. If a kid is isn’t it totally independently, great. But I suspect there’s some parent interference with some parents

Do you know how to write coherently

How are your dc’s fencing lessons going?

Wut

[Anonymous]

My take.

1. For the truly gifted athlete (ie nationally top ranked) recruiting is an open door into almost any school except maybe the most academic colleges (and even then if it’s a sport the alumni really care about they will find a way to admit you).

2. For the elite athlete (ie all-state/record holder) recruiting will significantly lower the admissions requirement. I personally know kids with a 3.5 and 1200 sat who have gotten into ivy league schools. That would be impossible w/o recruiting.

3. For the very good athlete (ie multi-year varsity starter/all-district) it can give an edge to the excellent student. The 4.2, 1450 sat kid has a good shot at a top school.

4. For everybody else- the recruiting game is reversed and your kid ends up going to lower ranked schools in order to play college sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD...4.0 GPA (Literally like everyone else), 24 ACT score. Admitted to Duke with 70% soccer scholarship.

Wow she’s dumb but she must be great at soccer

Sorry, but being gifted in a sport is much more important than her ACT score

Exactly and she’ll end up coaching soccer

My kid's middle school coach went to Duke as a recruit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:D3 schools say they don't offer athletic scholarships. They will figure out how to get your athlete money if he/she is a very good athlete. Division 1 will bend the academic rules to get all star level player in. One of my kids is a D1 athlete. The school had an immediate need for his specialized position. He was accepted, enrolled and had a class schedule within an hour of agreeing to go in. Most kids in his sport have to play a year or two of Jr's, which is why he was able to go in on a days notice basically.

Sounds like hockey. Was your kid a goalie? S/he must be good.

Yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD...4.0 GPA (Literally like everyone else), 24 ACT score. Admitted to Duke with 70% soccer scholarship.

Wow she’s dumb but she must be great at soccer

Sorry, but being gifted in a sport is much more important than her ACT score

Soccer at Duke gets dumb kids into Duke (oh and basketball)

and they are laughing all the way to that free Duke diploma and network, while you whine and complain that your smart kid didn't get in to UVA out of state, and omg its so unfair that UVA doesn't accept more instate, and ughhhhh when did JMU get hard to get in to, and I just can't believe that UMD didn't accept little Larla with her 4.3 GPA and her 31 ACT, it's sooooo unnnnffffaaairrrr.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:D3 schools say they don't offer athletic scholarships. They will figure out how to get your athlete money if he/she is a very good athlete. Division 1 will bend the academic rules to get all star level player in. One of my kids is a D1 athlete. The school had an immediate need for his specialized position. He was accepted, enrolled and had a class schedule within an hour of agreeing to go in. Most kids in his sport have to play a year or two of Jr's, which is why he was able to go in on a days notice basically.

Sounds like hockey. Was your kid a goalie? S/he must be good.

Yes

Awesome, congrats to your dc, you must be proud!