what about Bocconi University?

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Anonymous wrote:I learned something today, as I am in finance (I was an econ major at a T10 uni, and spent early years at GS) and have never heard of it. Not saying it is not well regarded, but in my 30 years in the field in NY and DC, I doubt I’ve met a grad.

But starting from the assumptions that it is an excellent econ program and that your son intends to base his career in the US, I mention 3 things for consideration.

- much US based company internship interviewing occurs on campus soph and junior years, your son will not be as positioned for those internships

- there is value to peer connections made while in college if intending to work in a field like finance, and your son would lack much of that network

- I’d look into if his class choices will be limited, since he could only take those taught in English. (tangentially, I would question the quality if professorship at a university that primarily teaches classes in a language not its home language)

Clearly, as you stated, you were a low level employee at GS….At my PE shop in the NYC (you know who we are), I have 14 Bocconi grads working there. 8 straight from undergrad and 6 from their Master programs.
A quick glance on LinkedIn, shows 26 Bocconi grads at GS in NYC including 6 MDs….and several VPs…

Stop spreading misinformation if you admittedly know NOTHING about Bocconi. His class choices are not limited. ALL THE CLASSES at these international programs are taught in English. Bocconi is an European university that teaches mainly in English. Your questioning of the professorship at Bocconi is laughable if not ridiculous. Typical american exceptionalism with limited knowledge of the world beyond your field of vision….

Triggered!

By idiocy at least…

Yeah, this thread is a pretty good example that you should not trust the judgement of people here.

[Anonymous]

Bocconcini

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Economist here at an IFI. I would not worry about the ignorant people commenting here, they have no idea what they are talking about.

Anyone who has done any recruitment in the economics field knows and respects Bocconi. There are a small number of US schools that would be more highly regarded, but it is certainly up there. You may have to put a bit more work into getting internships, but that is no bad thing.

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Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

This

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

Wrong. You are an idiot or live in an American bubble. I have worked for in NYC for 25 yrs, am American and never studied outside the us and yet, I have not only come across Boccconi grads, but given the world of Econ and Policy I work on, I obviously I have heard of Bocconi. If you haven’t , then there is something wrong with you. If you have never heard of Bocconi then what the hell are you doing on this thread ADDING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the conversation other than you own limitations?

[Anonymous]

it sounds like an Italian dessert. yummm.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, why not? Kids should have more adventures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s on our list. We are down to Pitt, Bocconi, and Ole Miss.

what a list. Have u been to any of those three -couldn't-be-more-different places? Choose Italy if ok to live outside US of A. Ole Miss will be your easiest and least $ IF you can live there, visit if you haven't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

Wrong. You are an idiot or live in an American bubble. I have worked for in NYC for 25 yrs, am American and never studied outside the us and yet, I have not only come across Boccconi grads, but given the world of Econ and Policy I work on, I obviously I have heard of Bocconi. If you haven’t , then there is something wrong with you. If you have never heard of Bocconi then what the hell are you doing on this thread ADDING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the conversation other than you own limitations?

Actually, I think the input is valuable. If you choose to attend, you will come across people in the US finance world who have never heard of it or don't consider it on the same level as the top US or UK schools. Clearly not this guy, who is a genius and knows everything, but this is not universal knowledge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

Wrong. You are an idiot or live in an American bubble. I have worked for in NYC for 25 yrs, am American and never studied outside the us and yet, I have not only come across Boccconi grads, but given the world of Econ and Policy I work on, I obviously I have heard of Bocconi. If you haven’t , then there is something wrong with you. If you have never heard of Bocconi then what the hell are you doing on this thread ADDING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the conversation other than you own limitations?

Actually, I think the input is valuable. If you choose to attend, you will come across people in the US finance world who have never heard of it or don't consider it on the same level as the top US or UK schools. Clearly not this guy, who is a genius and knows everything, but this is not universal knowledge.

This is very true. I dare say many influential people involved in hiring will not have heard of this, or indeed of very many other, foreign schools. There are a very few foreign universities, like Oxbridge and Sciences Po, which are almost universally known globally; this is not one of those. Doesn't mean it doesn't provide a good education, but if you're pragmatic you need to acknowledge reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

Wrong. You are an idiot or live in an American bubble. I have worked for in NYC for 25 yrs, am American and never studied outside the us and yet, I have not only come across Boccconi grads, but given the world of Econ and Policy I work on, I obviously I have heard of Bocconi. If you haven’t , then there is something wrong with you. If you have never heard of Bocconi then what the hell are you doing on this thread ADDING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the conversation other than you own limitations?

Actually, I think the input is valuable. If you choose to attend, you will come across people in the US finance world who have never heard of it or don't consider it on the same level as the top US or UK schools. Clearly not this guy, who is a genius and knows everything, but this is not universal knowledge.

This is very true. I dare say many influential people involved in hiring will not have heard of this, or indeed of very many other, foreign schools. There are a very few foreign universities, like Oxbridge and Sciences Po, which are almost universally known globally; this is not one of those. Doesn't mean it doesn't provide a good education, but if you're pragmatic you need to acknowledge reality.

The reality, though, is that after you land that first job, no one will care. So the real question is whether one can land a good job coming out of the school, not whether people you come across have heard of it once you’re an established professional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s on our list. We are down to Pitt, Bocconi, and Ole Miss.

Award for weirdest "down to" list ever

[Anonymous]

Regardless of anyone's opinion, i think it depends on what kind of college experience your kid wants and also the ease of networking/recruitment if they want to come back to the US to work. I have an MBA and have worked with a major Italian company (albeit not a finance company but worked closely with finance department) and i know nothing about Bocconi. I don't think any of my italian peers earned degrees from there. I am not making a judgement, but just want to highlight that the econ program may be strong, but the brand is not well known in the US. I would evaluate the school with the same criteria you would use for US schools. For econ, look into UChicago ED - If you're a junior, look into their summer program which now has an early, early application option. Also look at UK/Ireland - I know several kids who got onto st. Andrews, Trinity, etc- and they didn't have top grades, went TO, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly you have already convinced yourself Bocconi is for you. Stop asking people here and getting irate when we say we have not heard of it. I worked for two of the companies you listed as top recruiters, including as a managing director for one of the big consultancies in the US and in the UK. Never heard of Bocconi. Not to say it’s a bad school, but it is a more unusual path.

And we are not idiots for never having heard of it. Just like in Italy, they may never have heard of Bucknell or Kelley - both of which do well placing people in finance.

Wrong. You are an idiot or live in an American bubble. I have worked for in NYC for 25 yrs, am American and never studied outside the us and yet, I have not only come across Boccconi grads, but given the world of Econ and Policy I work on, I obviously I have heard of Bocconi. If you haven’t , then there is something wrong with you. If you have never heard of Bocconi then what the hell are you doing on this thread ADDING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the conversation other than you own limitations?

Actually, I think the input is valuable. If you choose to attend, you will come across people in the US finance world who have never heard of it or don't consider it on the same level as the top US or UK schools. Clearly not this guy, who is a genius and knows everything, but this is not universal knowledge.

This is very true. I dare say many influential people involved in hiring will not have heard of this, or indeed of very many other, foreign schools. There are a very few foreign universities, like Oxbridge and Sciences Po, which are almost universally known globally; this is not one of those. Doesn't mean it doesn't provide a good education, but if you're pragmatic you need to acknowledge reality.

The reality, though, is that after you land that first job, no one will care. So the real question is whether one can land a good job coming out of the school, not whether people you come across have heard of it once you’re an established professional.

Yeah, it just depends on your goals. If you want IB in NYC, you better line yourself up for it meaning ivies, williams, duke, emory - even Pitt. Because if you miss the opportunity after undergrad you're not getting access until after an MBA. If you want McKinsey in Chicago, go to UChicago or Northwestern. Alternatively, if you don't care where you work or who you work for, or you're just happy working for McKinsey in an outpost in Dublin Ireland for example, or that you EVENTUALLY make it to NYC when you're 30, have at it, go anywhere.