Shovel your sidewalks before they get stomped to ice, and clear ALL snow off the roof of your car

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's infinitely best to shovel your sidewalks and salt sooner rather than later, before they get walked on, and compressed to ice.

And for the love of god, clear ALL the snow off your car - the hood, the roof, everything. Being short is not an excuse. If you can't handle taking care of your car, that's not the safety problem of everyone else around you.

Who are you talking to? The air? Who has agreed in life to take lectures from you? The birds and the bees?

I actually appreciated the reminder as I had forgetten to put up my wind whirls wipers. Don’t have side walks on our street but I agree about shoveling regularly - especially if it is heavy snow,

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So weight and pressure meant snow and it freezes as slippery ice?!

No way!

Is this how ice skating works too?

Northern US resident here:

you DC people won't have frozen stuff for long, I assume, but what is likely to happen is you have snow with relatively warm temps, so that snow is going to be wet and yes, compress and stick like snowballs. Some places it will be slushy and retain shoe prints. Then when the temp drops tonight you're going to have ice, both even and uneven.

I like to clear while it is still snowing so there is less to move each time, but you should make every effort to do so by late evening, and it will also not be a bad idea to spread some sand or salt in case puddles or condensation create slippery areas.

A homeowner had to pay out $15,000 when I slipped on their ice (it was wicked slippery in a single area where the sidewalk crossed their driveway, clear and dry everywhere else) and had a simple shoulder fracture.

This is why you should NOT shovel until the temperatures are warm enough to melt ice.

Shoveling invites this hazard.

That's basically true. If you're not going to do an incredibly good job keeping ice off the sidewalk, you're better off not shoveling at all. It's much harder for someone to sue if the danger is visually obvious.

Good to know. We also have an umbrella policy for things like this.

Yeah, homeowners insurance will cover it, but it's best to not reward clumsy, litigious people like the pp that posted about suing.

We are expats and don’t come from litigious societies but I am careful to keep pathway to house clear of snow and ice as have heard about people suing here.

Personally I would never sure anyone if I fall down due to lack of prudence and common sense,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's infinitely best to shovel your sidewalks and salt sooner rather than later, before they get walked on, and compressed to ice.

And for the love of god, clear ALL the snow off your car - the hood, the roof, everything. Being short is not an excuse. If you can't handle taking care of your car, that's not the safety problem of everyone else around you.

Who are you talking to? The air? Who has agreed in life to take lectures from you? The birds and the bees?

Do you never walk anywhere? Are you obese?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So weight and pressure meant snow and it freezes as slippery ice?!

No way!

Is this how ice skating works too?

Northern US resident here:

you DC people won't have frozen stuff for long, I assume, but what is likely to happen is you have snow with relatively warm temps, so that snow is going to be wet and yes, compress and stick like snowballs. Some places it will be slushy and retain shoe prints. Then when the temp drops tonight you're going to have ice, both even and uneven.

I like to clear while it is still snowing so there is less to move each time, but you should make every effort to do so by late evening, and it will also not be a bad idea to spread some sand or salt in case puddles or condensation create slippery areas.

A homeowner had to pay out $15,000 when I slipped on their ice (it was wicked slippery in a single area where the sidewalk crossed their driveway, clear and dry everywhere else) and had a simple shoulder fracture.

This is why you should NOT shovel until the temperatures are warm enough to melt ice.

Shoveling invites this hazard.

That's basically true. If you're not going to do an incredibly good job keeping ice off the sidewalk, you're better off not shoveling at all. It's much harder for someone to sue if the danger is visually obvious.

Good to know. We also have an umbrella policy for things like this.

Yeah, homeowners insurance will cover it, but it's best to not reward clumsy, litigious people like the pp that posted about suing.

We are expats and don’t come from litigious societies but I am careful to keep pathway to house clear of snow and ice as have heard about people suing here.

Personally I would never sure anyone if I fall down due to lack of prudence and common sense,

As the other posters have said, the lawsuit risk comes from poorly clearing snow and ice, not from not doing it all all. You might get a fine from the county or city if you don't shovel (in reality, you won't), but you're not going to be successfully sued if someone decides to walk through the snow.

It creates a perverse incentive not to shovel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So weight and pressure meant snow and it freezes as slippery ice?!

No way!

Is this how ice skating works too?

Northern US resident here:

you DC people won't have frozen stuff for long, I assume, but what is likely to happen is you have snow with relatively warm temps, so that snow is going to be wet and yes, compress and stick like snowballs. Some places it will be slushy and retain shoe prints. Then when the temp drops tonight you're going to have ice, both even and uneven.

I like to clear while it is still snowing so there is less to move each time, but you should make every effort to do so by late evening, and it will also not be a bad idea to spread some sand or salt in case puddles or condensation create slippery areas.

A homeowner had to pay out $15,000 when I slipped on their ice (it was wicked slippery in a single area where the sidewalk crossed their driveway, clear and dry everywhere else) and had a simple shoulder fracture.

This is why you should NOT shovel until the temperatures are warm enough to melt ice.

Shoveling invites this hazard.

That's basically true. If you're not going to do an incredibly good job keeping ice off the sidewalk, you're better off not shoveling at all. It's much harder for someone to sue if the danger is visually obvious.

Good to know. We also have an umbrella policy for things like this.

Yeah, homeowners insurance will cover it, but it's best to not reward clumsy, litigious people like the pp that posted about suing.

We are expats and don’t come from litigious societies but I am careful to keep pathway to house clear of snow and ice as have heard about people suing here.

Personally I would never sure anyone if I fall down due to lack of prudence and common sense,

As the other posters have said, the lawsuit risk comes from poorly clearing snow and ice, not from not doing it all all. You might get a fine from the county or city if you don't shovel (in reality, you won't), but you're not going to be successfully sued if someone decides to walk through the snow.

It creates a perverse incentive not to shovel.

Plus snow, even old snow, doesn’t make people slip or injury them. If anything it’s crunchy and gives better traction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's infinitely best to shovel your sidewalks and salt sooner rather than later, before they get walked on, and compressed to ice.

And for the love of god, clear ALL the snow off your car - the hood, the roof, everything. Being short is not an excuse. If you can't handle taking care of your car, that's not the safety problem of everyone else around you.

Just found this thread started weeks ago

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This will be relatively light snow (as opposed to our usual concrete) so it'll be easy to shovel.

This aged like milk lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's infinitely best to shovel your sidewalks and salt sooner rather than later, before they get walked on, and compressed to ice.

And for the love of god, clear ALL the snow off your car - the hood, the roof, everything. Being short is not an excuse. If you can't handle taking care of your car, that's not the safety problem of everyone else around you.

Just found this thread started weeks ago

This thread started a year ago. Completely different storm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who don't clear snow from their car are definitely the same lazy selfish jerks who leave shopping cars in parking lots.

This. They also take parking spaces you shoveled out in front of your home or their push snow to block your driveway. They are the same people who have their dog poop in your yard and refuse to pick it up. They allow friends to park in front of your driveway when they entertain and are annoyed when you come to the door to ask their friend to move so you can leave your home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or else?! You’ll take a photo and post it on FB?

You know you can get sued, right?

You sound like someone who plays pickleball and backs into parking spaces.

I missed this fine, fine insult a year ago. Love.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who don't clear snow from their car are definitely the same lazy selfish jerks who leave shopping cars in parking lots.

This. They also take parking spaces you shoveled out in front of your home or their push snow to block your driveway. They are the same people who have their dog poop in your yard and refuse to pick it up. They allow friends to park in front of your driveway when they entertain and are annoyed when you come to the door to ask their friend to move so you can leave your home.

All of this.