use of "Starting Block" in montgomery county swimming pool

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Other than club and HS swimmers, who practice racing starts during their practices, what other swimmers using a rec pool need to be proficient in racing dives?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Once 🌹 trains with a knowledgeable coach, her dives will improve. Keep looking around, another club will take her. Try NCRAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Other than club and HS swimmers, who practice racing starts during their practices, what other swimmers using a rec pool need to be proficient in racing dives?

US masters swimming has 60,000 members. USA swimming has 380,000. So based on membership trends, 15-20% of swimmers older than HS age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hello All ,
I am going to Montgomery swimming pool and recently tried to use starting block. I was surpirsed life guards on duty didnt allow me to use it. I asked pool manager about manual and its mentioned that "The use of the starting blocks is restricted to approved swim practices, swim meets, and during instruction."

Question is if its facilitate by tax payers then why we cant use it for practice? some of you will raise safety concerns but when there is a single person in lane(which is rare considering how crowded this pools are) they should allow to use it.

how these rules were created.

Thank you

You should also demand to use the pool manager's office when they aren't isn't using it, you know, because of your tax dollars logic.

I’ve always wanted to drive an ambulance with the sirens on. I guess since my tax dollars pay for them I can just take one for a spin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Other than club and HS swimmers, who practice racing starts during their practices, what other swimmers using a rec pool need to be proficient in racing dives?

Previous professional swimmer who don’t compete but occasionally love to dive from starting block just to remember old days .. if you were ever professional swimmer you know the feeling …

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Anonymous wrote:Odd that at my summer club the 15 year-old lifeguards have no problem ensuring the safety of the safety of the 8-12 year old kids working on their starts in their own lanes.

Are other people allowed to join the lanes at random? Or are the kids lining up and taking turns? Are there also coaches managing the process?

You're talking about two totally different things.

I’m talking about the exact same thing. One child in one lane practicing starts alone in the deep end. No other people joining, no coaches.

Off the blocks or off the edge? Regardless, I bet this isn’t actually allowed outside of practices or club-sanctioned lessons. Our summer pool lifeguards would shut it down immediately.

Regularly, a child will go to the lifeguard on duty and ask if s/he can work on starts in the deep end of lane 4/5/6. Usually lane 6 because they can use the ladder to get out and not swim back to the end of the pool. The lifeguards say yes. Nobody gets hurt because it carries no additional risk.

This. There’s a good chance PPs issue is acting entitled and just getting on the block. I’d always go to the guard first and ask nicely (assuming the pools not crowded). If it’s a young guard who’s uncertain I’d offer to talk to the pool manager myself to cover the guard. My daughter has done this several times before meets and explained she has a meet coming up. It’s not like she’s doing it every lap. Just 5-10 min on starts then on to the rest of her workout. Still might not work depending on pool policy but I’d go through those steps before complaining here.

Not possible in Montgomery county .. it’s always over crowded 😂😂😂

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Other than club and HS swimmers, who practice racing starts during their practices, what other swimmers using a rec pool need to be proficient in racing dives?

US masters swimming has 60,000 members. USA swimming has 380,000. So based on membership trends, 15-20% of swimmers older than HS age.

Masters swimmers don't swim with clubs?

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Other than club and HS swimmers, who practice racing starts during their practices, what other swimmers using a rec pool need to be proficient in racing dives?

US masters swimming has 60,000 members. USA swimming has 380,000. So based on membership trends, 15-20% of swimmers older than HS age.

Masters swimmers don't swim with clubs?

They do. I swam for a Masters Club. The club has several group practices per week and attends Masters meets.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Other than club and HS swimmers, who practice racing starts during their practices, what other swimmers using a rec pool need to be proficient in racing dives?

US masters swimming has 60,000 members. USA swimming has 380,000. So based on membership trends, 15-20% of swimmers older than HS age.

Masters swimmers don't swim with clubs?

Many do, but a lot train by themselves.

Some clubs are loose affiliations- coach emails the practice to you, and you practice on your own.

The clubs with lane time typically don’t train starts for various reasons: many are old and don’t want to, many are distance/ open water swimmers that don’t waste time on starts, many don’t compete and would rather focus limited lane time on swimming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Please tell that to Katie Ledecky

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Please tell that to Katie Ledecky

https://www.si.com/olympics/2021/09/22/katie-ledecky-changes-training-base-university-of-florida-nesty

You won't see her swimming around here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Please tell that to Katie Ledecky

https://www.si.com/olympics/2021/09/22/katie-ledecky-changes-training-base-university-of-florida-nesty

You won't see her swimming around here.

Saw here her for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:Swimmers can use blocks during practices (and tryouts) because they’re supervised by trained coaches. Individuals can’t use them randomly, no matter how experienced they are. It’s frustrating for experienced swimmers, but there’s no way for lifeguards to know who’s safe or not during open swim times. (Unless MP himself walked in!)
To the RMSC tryout person - please don’t come at me with the USA Swimming manual to prove why your DD was wronged during tryouts. We’ve all seen your argument and heard about your report. I’d like to consider that DCUM matter closed.

Not really, there were a whole room full of supervised coaches that looked the other way when untrained kids were requested to go off the blocks that weren't certified and the coaches weren't using the protocol.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/teaching-racing-starts.pdf

Head coaches are supposed to keep a record of all kids under a certain age that are certified to use the racing blocks, but they don't. At least for all intents and purposes they don't care.

https://www.usaswimming.org/docs/default-source/coaching-resourcesdocuments/racing-start-certification.pdf

Please see bolded section of my comment.

I don't understand how you can think that your request carries any honor.

DP. I don't understand what you want, PP. You've called this incident to people's attention and they have read about it and can respond as they want/need to. What is your desired action item?

Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different response.

I guess swimming in Montgomery County is always going to suck especially when it comes to racing dives.

Please tell that to Katie Ledecky

https://www.si.com/olympics/2021/09/22/katie-ledecky-changes-training-base-university-of-florida-nesty

You won't see her swimming around here.

Saw here her for decades.

You aren't about to treat my daughter like she is Ledecky, are you? I mean the least you could do is pretend like she is going to win a gold. USA Swimming is notorious for only treating their stars well, it's a major criticism of their Safesport, is that it doesn't allow for non-members to file complaints.