Pitt Jolie FINALLY reach divorce settlement

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Anonymous wrote:lol 😂 finally. Someone posted a link about Giselle and I saw that they signed Christmas day

Angelina did on Christmas, and Brad on the 30th lol. Lots of people saw this coming after she won his correspondences. They'll settle the winery sooner then later so he messages don't leak

Or perhaps she finally settled hoping for an Oscar nom.

Then why wouldn't she settle months ago? That's laughable. He doesn't want his communications out.

What difference would it make? She's been trying to bring him down for years and he's as popular as ever. She probably realizes she won't win in the end. The reputational damage is all hers.

LOL he is not popular as ever. Using his words against is obviously a game changer. Wake up.

Whatever. Look at his career vs hers then come back and tell us who is thriving and who isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:lol 😂 finally. Someone posted a link about Giselle and I saw that they signed Christmas day

Angelina did on Christmas, and Brad on the 30th lol. Lots of people saw this coming after she won his correspondences. They'll settle the winery sooner then later so he messages don't leak

Or perhaps she finally settled hoping for an Oscar nom.

Then why wouldn't she settle months ago? That's laughable. He doesn't want his communications out.

What difference would it make? She's been trying to bring him down for years and he's as popular as ever. She probably realizes she won't win in the end. The reputational damage is all hers.

LOL he is not popular as ever. Using his words against is obviously a game changer. Wake up.

Whatever. Look at his career vs hers then come back and tell us who is thriving and who isn't.

It's okay to be in denial but this was always going to happen after she got the leverage she needed.

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Anonymous wrote:lol 😂 finally. Someone posted a link about Giselle and I saw that they signed Christmas day

Angelina did on Christmas, and Brad on the 30th lol. Lots of people saw this coming after she won his correspondences. They'll settle the winery sooner then later so he messages don't leak

Or perhaps she finally settled hoping for an Oscar nom.

Then why wouldn't she settle months ago? That's laughable. He doesn't want his communications out.

What difference would it make? She's been trying to bring him down for years and he's as popular as ever. She probably realizes she won't win in the end. The reputational damage is all hers.

LOL he is not popular as ever. Using his words against is obviously a game changer. Wake up.

Whatever. Look at his career vs hers then come back and tell us who is thriving and who isn't.

It's okay to be in denial but this was always going to happen after she got the leverage she needed.

Denial about what? That nobody likes or cares much about Angelina except for Angelina?

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Anonymous wrote:They still hate each other just as much and the most important piece, the winery, is ongoing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14240695/Angelina-Jolie-Brad-Pitt-stop-attacking-divorce-battle.html

As usual, I tend to think the truth is somewhere in the middle. He was an abusive drunk but successfully went into treatment and continually advocated for more time, and a stable upbringing, for the kids. Even once he was clean, she continued to punish him for his past behavior and alienated the kids. They fought bitterly over money and property, with neither fully in the right. Both should have put the children first, always. Neither did.

Just read the article. Brad doesn’t do too many interviews and I don’t think he’s ever attacked or insinuated anything negative against Jolie. Talk about a BS statement from Jolie about him to stop attacking her.

There is weekly hit articles between these two using "sources" Again get real.

And you believe in sources? And tabloids? I don’t believe it unless it comes from the celebs mouth and even then it’s usually half truths. I am talking about their individual, in person interviews. She keeps bringing up family and pain. He doesn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:They still hate each other just as much and the most important piece, the winery, is ongoing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14240695/Angelina-Jolie-Brad-Pitt-stop-attacking-divorce-battle.html

As usual, I tend to think the truth is somewhere in the middle. He was an abusive drunk but successfully went into treatment and continually advocated for more time, and a stable upbringing, for the kids. Even once he was clean, she continued to punish him for his past behavior and alienated the kids. They fought bitterly over money and property, with neither fully in the right. Both should have put the children first, always. Neither did.

Just read the article. Brad doesn’t do too many interviews and I don’t think he’s ever attacked or insinuated anything negative against Jolie. Talk about a BS statement from Jolie about him to stop attacking her.

There is weekly hit articles between these two using "sources" Again get real.

And you believe in sources? And tabloids? I don’t believe it unless it comes from the celebs mouth and even then it’s usually half truths. I am talking about their individual, in person interviews. She keeps bringing up family and pain. He doesn’t.

The information doesn't have to be true but it's obviously from them so again, hiding under sources is not an excuse. Their VF article isn't a tabloid either and has his friends interviews in it and tours of the kids old room. Hiding behind sources does nothing when everyone knows where it's coming from.

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I may have missed something but is there evidence that he was physically abusive before the plane incident?

My uneducated take on it is that they were both emotionally abusive to each other, because they were a terrible match that initially thrived on hot chemistry and drama which then evolved into just drama and resentment. She’s type A and controlling and he avoids conflict by smoking pot and drinking. (That seems to track with me on the Anniston thing, where his leaving her seemed to take her very much by surprise — the marriage wasn’t good but he was too conflict avoidant to tell her that and instead just had an affair and sort of ghosted her.)

I think he comes off a little better in the public eye because people like a conflict avoiding people pleaser better than they like a type A control freak. At the end of the day I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them but if I had to just have dinner with one of them, I’d pick him. She just seems exhausting with a bit of a mean edge.

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Anonymous wrote:I may have missed something but is there evidence that he was physically abusive before the plane incident?

My uneducated take on it is that they were both emotionally abusive to each other, because they were a terrible match that initially thrived on hot chemistry and drama which then evolved into just drama and resentment. She’s type A and controlling and he avoids conflict by smoking pot and drinking. (That seems to track with me on the Anniston thing, where his leaving her seemed to take her very much by surprise — the marriage wasn’t good but he was too conflict avoidant to tell her that and instead just had an affair and sort of ghosted her.)

I think he comes off a little better in the public eye because people like a conflict avoiding people pleaser better than they like a type A control freak. At the end of the day I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them but if I had to just have dinner with one of them, I’d pick him. She just seems exhausting with a bit of a mean edge.

She just comes off as mentally unwell and people predictably recoil. The brother kissing thing, vial of blood, baby collecting, vagabond lifestyle, drugs. He doesn't. He seems midwest normal in comparison (even if he's not), so naturally people would rather have dinner with him.

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Anonymous wrote:They still hate each other just as much and the most important piece, the winery, is ongoing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14240695/Angelina-Jolie-Brad-Pitt-stop-attacking-divorce-battle.html

As usual, I tend to think the truth is somewhere in the middle. He was an abusive drunk but successfully went into treatment and continually advocated for more time, and a stable upbringing, for the kids. Even once he was clean, she continued to punish him for his past behavior and alienated the kids. They fought bitterly over money and property, with neither fully in the right. Both should have put the children first, always. Neither did.

Just read the article. Brad doesn’t do too many interviews and I don’t think he’s ever attacked or insinuated anything negative against Jolie. Talk about a BS statement from Jolie about him to stop attacking her.

There is weekly hit articles between these two using "sources" Again get real.

And you believe in sources? And tabloids? I don’t believe it unless it comes from the celebs mouth and even then it’s usually half truths. I am talking about their individual, in person interviews. She keeps bringing up family and pain. He doesn’t.

The information doesn't have to be true but it's obviously from them so again, hiding under sources is not an excuse. Their VF article isn't a tabloid either and has his friends interviews in it and tours of the kids old room. Hiding behind sources does nothing when everyone knows where it's coming from.

Link?

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Anonymous wrote:I may have missed something but is there evidence that he was physically abusive before the plane incident?

My uneducated take on it is that they were both emotionally abusive to each other, because they were a terrible match that initially thrived on hot chemistry and drama which then evolved into just drama and resentment. She’s type A and controlling and he avoids conflict by smoking pot and drinking. (That seems to track with me on the Anniston thing, where his leaving her seemed to take her very much by surprise — the marriage wasn’t good but he was too conflict avoidant to tell her that and instead just had an affair and sort of ghosted her.)

I think he comes off a little better in the public eye because people like a conflict avoiding people pleaser better than they like a type A control freak. At the end of the day I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them but if I had to just have dinner with one of them, I’d pick him. She just seems exhausting with a bit of a mean edge.

People just hate women. See the threads on Blake and Gisele as good examples of that

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Anonymous wrote:I think he made a tactical error in not making a very generous financial settlement, very quickly. Things surely would have gone more smoothly if he had, and the chateau sale could have been part of it. It smacks of egotism and control. She's the mother of his six children and he should have been very generous. Just on principle, let alone his gross behavior on the plane.

What does wanting a big lump sum payout say about someone? Did she want money or justice?

I'm not saying she's an angel, far from it. But she was entitled to a huge sum for division of property and child support for six kids over 8 years, and it does seem like he withheld it to punish her for leaving and publicly embarrassing him. And she retaliated by withholding the kids, even when it seemed reasonable he was healthy and ready to co-parent. They both suck.

Again, only married two years.

Doesn't matter. She'll still be entitled to the movies produced during that time and the money from their properties.

If they bought the properties together but I think Brad bought all of them including the winery (he gave her half of the winery as wedding gift). So he owns them not her. Again, only married two years so she should be entitled to half of those earnings. Let’s not forget she made those Panda and Disney movies which were huge financially. So if counting the eight years together, Brad should also get some of that.

He didn't give her half the winery as a wedding gift. He gave 10% of the shares. They both paid for the winery.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he made a tactical error in not making a very generous financial settlement, very quickly. Things surely would have gone more smoothly if he had, and the chateau sale could have been part of it. It smacks of egotism and control. She's the mother of his six children and he should have been very generous. Just on principle, let alone his gross behavior on the plane.

What does wanting a big lump sum payout say about someone? Did she want money or justice?

I'm not saying she's an angel, far from it. But she was entitled to a huge sum for division of property and child support for six kids over 8 years, and it does seem like he withheld it to punish her for leaving and publicly embarrassing him. And she retaliated by withholding the kids, even when it seemed reasonable he was healthy and ready to co-parent. They both suck.

What kind of mother does this?

I'm sure she rationalized it to herself--he's an awful father and person, the kids were better off with her etc. Like most narcissists do.

I was a little shocked when she had a member of her team basically admit she's been brainwashing the kids to think they had no voice because their father has privilege and power. What? The kids worked with court-appointed therapists, who represented their perspectives in custody proceedings. Only a sadistic mother would want to put her kids through testifying in court. Four are now adults and are free to speak out at any time. At least three seem to have dropped his name, out of loyalty to their mother not because he's been a terrible father as far as we can see. There is no evidence to suggest he deserved to have his parental rights severed. She's a vindictive nutcase who absolutely cannot see the harm she's done to her family (after his initial harm, which while terrible seems to have been short-lived). It's always been about her and what she wants, not what's in the best interest of raising well-adjusted kids who have healthy relationships with both parents.

Here's the quote: “The kids have grown up seeing that some people have so much power and privilege that their voices don’t matter. Their pain doesn’t count,” a source close to the matter shares with Us Weekly.

A good mother would have helped them get past one terrible day eight years ago. Kids are resilient and would have been okay if she encouraged reunification, explaining he was sick but is better now and loved them very much. She wanted them to stew in it because it served her purposes. I can't think of much more horrible parenting than that. Unless there is somehow more to it than that, but I think Wasser would have continued to help her if she felt she was in the right.

It wasn't just one day. That has been made abundantly clear

She herself said she left him the minute he became abusive toward the kids. So that was one day. If you're talking about the alcoholism, sure, but look how well Ben Affleck's kids are doing. Why? Because of parents committed to co-parenting peacefully and putting them first.

If she talks about her/their suffering so much publicly, can you imagine how much shes does privately? Those kids never had a chance.

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Anonymous wrote:I may have missed something but is there evidence that he was physically abusive before the plane incident?

My uneducated take on it is that they were both emotionally abusive to each other, because they were a terrible match that initially thrived on hot chemistry and drama which then evolved into just drama and resentment. She’s type A and controlling and he avoids conflict by smoking pot and drinking. (That seems to track with me on the Anniston thing, where his leaving her seemed to take her very much by surprise — the marriage wasn’t good but he was too conflict avoidant to tell her that and instead just had an affair and sort of ghosted her.)

I think he comes off a little better in the public eye because people like a conflict avoiding people pleaser better than they like a type A control freak. At the end of the day I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them but if I had to just have dinner with one of them, I’d pick him. She just seems exhausting with a bit of a mean edge.

People just hate women. See the threads on Blake and Gisele as good examples of that

Nah. I don't hate women. But I strongly dislike her.

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Anonymous wrote:I may have missed something but is there evidence that he was physically abusive before the plane incident?

My uneducated take on it is that they were both emotionally abusive to each other, because they were a terrible match that initially thrived on hot chemistry and drama which then evolved into just drama and resentment. She’s type A and controlling and he avoids conflict by smoking pot and drinking. (That seems to track with me on the Anniston thing, where his leaving her seemed to take her very much by surprise — the marriage wasn’t good but he was too conflict avoidant to tell her that and instead just had an affair and sort of ghosted her.)

I think he comes off a little better in the public eye because people like a conflict avoiding people pleaser better than they like a type A control freak. At the end of the day I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them but if I had to just have dinner with one of them, I’d pick him. She just seems exhausting with a bit of a mean edge.

People just hate women. See the threads on Blake and Gisele as good examples of that

Nah. I don't hate women. But I strongly dislike her.

Sure!

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Anonymous wrote:I think he made a tactical error in not making a very generous financial settlement, very quickly. Things surely would have gone more smoothly if he had, and the chateau sale could have been part of it. It smacks of egotism and control. She's the mother of his six children and he should have been very generous. Just on principle, let alone his gross behavior on the plane.

This. Yup he’s an idiot

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Anonymous wrote:I may have missed something but is there evidence that he was physically abusive before the plane incident?

My uneducated take on it is that they were both emotionally abusive to each other, because they were a terrible match that initially thrived on hot chemistry and drama which then evolved into just drama and resentment. She’s type A and controlling and he avoids conflict by smoking pot and drinking. (That seems to track with me on the Anniston thing, where his leaving her seemed to take her very much by surprise — the marriage wasn’t good but he was too conflict avoidant to tell her that and instead just had an affair and sort of ghosted her.)

I think he comes off a little better in the public eye because people like a conflict avoiding people pleaser better than they like a type A control freak. At the end of the day I wouldn’t want to be married to either of them but if I had to just have dinner with one of them, I’d pick him. She just seems exhausting with a bit of a mean edge.

People just hate women. See the threads on Blake and Gisele as good examples of that

Nah. I don't hate women. But I strongly dislike her.

+1 her behavior screams narcissist, which is surely why she has so few female friends. And obviously lacks empathy for other women, whether Laura Dern or Jennifer Aniston. Worst of all, she showed little regard for her kids having a stable and healthy upbringing but dragged them around the world according to her whims. Very selfish person.