Do women actually make more money than men in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:To PP: No, these senior male managers don’t do a great job. I require zero supervision and can do my job with a left leg. They often come with $40k expense reports from business trips in developing countries (guess why); forget plug in big numbers in multi-million budgets where it’s their responsibility and then pout like spoilt babies or try to pretend it’s not their project, when it’s brought to the attention of HR.
Just like at home - women have to pick up their dirty socks at work

In other words, you overdramatize and critique everything they do to your co-workers and, for good measure, the whole of DCUM, during working hours no less... when your job is to simply pick up the dirty socks.

In other news, I just accepted a manager position offer over the phone. I suppose that means women are earning only 60 cents to my dollar now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To PP: No, these senior male managers don’t do a great job. I require zero supervision and can do my job with a left leg. They often come with $40k expense reports from business trips in developing countries (guess why); forget plug in big numbers in multi-million budgets where it’s their responsibility and then pout like spoilt babies or try to pretend it’s not their project, when it’s brought to the attention of HR.
Just like at home - women have to pick up their dirty socks at work

In other words, you overdramatize and critique everything they do to your co-workers and, for good measure, the whole of DCUM, during working hours no less... when your job is to simply pick up the dirty socks.

In other news, I just accepted a manager position offer over the phone. I suppose that means women are earning only 60 cents to my dollar now.

You are a telling example how toxic masculinity talks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To PP: No, these senior male managers don’t do a great job. I require zero supervision and can do my job with a left leg. They often come with $40k expense reports from business trips in developing countries (guess why); forget plug in big numbers in multi-million budgets where it’s their responsibility and then pout like spoilt babies or try to pretend it’s not their project, when it’s brought to the attention of HR.
Just like at home - women have to pick up their dirty socks at work

In other words, you overdramatize and critique everything they do to your co-workers and, for good measure, the whole of DCUM, during working hours no less... when your job is to simply pick up the dirty socks.

In other news, I just accepted a manager position offer over the phone. I suppose that means women are earning only 60 cents to my dollar now.

You are a telling example how toxic masculinity talks

Point is, if Ms. Socks kept her head down and learned to adapt, rather than nitpicking everything and everyone at every step of the way, she might be higher on the corporate ladder.

I dated a girl like her before. Highly neurotic, and very similarly critical of her male bosses as the PP. She confided in me that she was scared, because she knew she couldn't advance beyond her assistant manager role at a small bank and was stagnant, no matter how many trainings she took or certifications she got. And it's true... You never see that type of person in an executive, director, or senior manager role.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To PP: No, these senior male managers don’t do a great job. I require zero supervision and can do my job with a left leg. They often come with $40k expense reports from business trips in developing countries (guess why); forget plug in big numbers in multi-million budgets where it’s their responsibility and then pout like spoilt babies or try to pretend it’s not their project, when it’s brought to the attention of HR.
Just like at home - women have to pick up their dirty socks at work

In other words, you overdramatize and critique everything they do to your co-workers and, for good measure, the whole of DCUM, during working hours no less... when your job is to simply pick up the dirty socks.

In other news, I just accepted a manager position offer over the phone. I suppose that means women are earning only 60 cents to my dollar now.

You are a telling example how toxic masculinity talks

Point is, if Ms. Socks kept her head down and learned to adapt, rather than nitpicking everything and everyone at every step of the way, she might be higher on the corporate ladder.

I dated a girl like her before. Highly neurotic, and very similarly critical of her male bosses as the PP. She confided in me that she was scared, because she knew she couldn't advance beyond her assistant manager role at a small bank and was stagnant, no matter how many trainings she took or certifications she got. And it's true... You never see that type of person in an executive, director, or senior manager role.

Wow, I can see why you're single.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To PP: No, these senior male managers don’t do a great job. I require zero supervision and can do my job with a left leg. They often come with $40k expense reports from business trips in developing countries (guess why); forget plug in big numbers in multi-million budgets where it’s their responsibility and then pout like spoilt babies or try to pretend it’s not their project, when it’s brought to the attention of HR.
Just like at home - women have to pick up their dirty socks at work

In other words, you overdramatize and critique everything they do to your co-workers and, for good measure, the whole of DCUM, during working hours no less... when your job is to simply pick up the dirty socks.

In other news, I just accepted a manager position offer over the phone. I suppose that means women are earning only 60 cents to my dollar now.

You are a telling example how toxic masculinity talks

Point is, if Ms. Socks kept her head down and learned to adapt, rather than nitpicking everything and everyone at every step of the way, she might be higher on the corporate ladder.

I dated a girl like her before. Highly neurotic, and very similarly critical of her male bosses as the PP. She confided in me that she was scared, because she knew she couldn't advance beyond her assistant manager role at a small bank and was stagnant, no matter how many trainings she took or certifications she got. And it's true... You never see that type of person in an executive, director, or senior manager role.

Wow, I can see why you're single.

Yea - that’s what men usually try to pull: switching the labels and bullying subordinates, where they should be just fired for stealing from the company for taking escorts on corporate dinners. And some of them even get promoted by similar minded males. Most corporate embezzlements are committed by men (starting from my own exH).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the age group. Younger women are making more money than men. They also have higher matriculation into white collar and corporate jobs than men.

It's interesting we send women to college but encourage men to replace roofs and fix clogged toilets. I think women should be encouraged to be roofers, plumbers, oil workers and the like as well. Women are fully capable of doing these jobs.

You're talking about jobs that require physical labor where women are at a disadvantage and not as willing to sacrifice their bodies and health doing work with a high incidence of injury or death. But there are many other jobs that women could do but they just don't. For example, pilots. The FAA reports that only 6.34% of registered pilots (of all types) are women while only 7% of commercial airline pilots are women. It's 33% women for air traffic controllers. Yet both are very welcoming fields for women. Only 14% of engineers are women in the US. These jobs do not pay women less than men for the same job and I think that's a fallacy across the board. Women often choose jobs that pay less and/or aren't as physically demanding or as demanding of their time and for good reason. So sure, on average when looking across the entire labor force and lumping in all the professions, women make less than men because of the career paths they choose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the age group. Younger women are making more money than men. They also have higher matriculation into white collar and corporate jobs than men.

It's interesting we send women to college but encourage men to replace roofs and fix clogged toilets. I think women should be encouraged to be roofers, plumbers, oil workers and the like as well. Women are fully capable of doing these jobs.

You're talking about jobs that require physical labor where women are at a disadvantage and not as willing to sacrifice their bodies and health doing work with a high incidence of injury or death. But there are many other jobs that women could do but they just don't. For example, pilots. The FAA reports that only 6.34% of registered pilots (of all types) are women while only 7% of commercial airline pilots are women. It's 33% women for air traffic controllers. Yet both are very welcoming fields for women. Only 14% of engineers are women in the US. These jobs do not pay women less than men for the same job and I think that's a fallacy across the board. Women often choose jobs that pay less and/or aren't as physically demanding or as demanding of their time and for good reason. So sure, on average when looking across the entire labor force and lumping in all the professions, women make less than men because of the career paths they choose.

My wife was valedictorian of her high school and has never made more than $60k.

Yet she’s a multimillionaire many times over (combined family net worth) and spent yesterday walking the dog, wrapping presents and going to a kids’ Christmas concert.

That lifestyle choice counterbalances like a dozen dual career couples who both work full time and the wife makes like 10% more.

There are no conspiracies to pay one group of people more or less than any other. In aggregate, it’s the result of marketable skills and personal choices.