The Atlantic covers the out of control carjacking

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Anonymous wrote:The Atlantic covers Maryland area carjackings.

How can average citizens get these laws changed that allow for catch and release?

I'm tired of hearing about the poor criminals. If their parents/guardians can't keep them off the streets/out of jail, they should be placed in an environment where they get mandatory therapy and education/vocational training and kept away from the rest of society until they can control their violent impulses. Call it juvie or give it some other name, but there need to be consequences. Catch and release doesn't protect society, doesn't teach anything, and doesn't improve any of the circumstances that led to this violent criminal thinking it's ok to go carjack people at gunpoint when they are still too young to even drive legally. It's stupid.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/11/carjacking-crime-police-dc-maryland/679951/?gift=GXWqO_oXqVH8hrv18ow_FKj1EDfWC13BDpglmi3wg9c&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Is this a joke? It is DC-area carjackings. It is principally a crime that has spilled over into Maryland due to DC’s lax on crime policies, which the article does a good job explaining.

The article focuses on the difficulty that PG County PD have in policing this crime along the DC-MD border due to jurisdictional issues.

It also does something that the progressive activists never do, centers the victims and went into some detail about how this affected a family and the limited repercussions and criminal penalties that were enforced, including in PG County courts.

The criminals are largely coming from DC Wards 7 and 8, along with “Ward 9” aka PG.

Yeah, no. There have been 334 carjackings YTD in PG County and 482 in DC. PG County has almost double the population of DC. Also, a lot of the carjackings in PG County are done by DC residents.

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This is the problem:

After every arrest, Sergeant Milburn looks up the suspect’s prior contact with the criminal-justice system. He estimates that in at least half of the unit’s juvenile cases, the suspect has had previous interactions with the police as a victim—of physical or sexual abuse, for example, or of neglect by a parent or family member. Milburn searched the 12-year-old’s history, and sure enough: He’d allegedly been physically abused at 6 years old. “Most of these kids don’t stand a chance,” Milburn told me. “I can’t tell you how many times we notify parents and they say, ‘I don’t care,’ or ‘Just send his ass to Cheltenham’ ”—the county’s juvenile detention center. “That happens more times than not.”

Absolute BS.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem:

After every arrest, Sergeant Milburn looks up the suspect’s prior contact with the criminal-justice system. He estimates that in at least half of the unit’s juvenile cases, the suspect has had previous interactions with the police as a victim—of physical or sexual abuse, for example, or of neglect by a parent or family member. Milburn searched the 12-year-old’s history, and sure enough: He’d allegedly been physically abused at 6 years old. “Most of these kids don’t stand a chance,” Milburn told me. “I can’t tell you how many times we notify parents and they say, ‘I don’t care,’ or ‘Just send his ass to Cheltenham’ ”—the county’s juvenile detention center. “That happens more times than not.”

Absolute BS.

What do we do then?

And it just repeats because the kid who was abused at 6 and caught carjacking at 12 winds up fathering multiple kids at 16/17/18. Those kids grow up with either no father (actually preferable in this case) or a father who is in and out of jail and a terrible influence/likely abusive when he is around. And then that kid winds up on the same path.

One argument in favor of putting these kids in jail is that then they don't become parents. I'm not kidding. I've met a lot of kids in DCPS who's parents were teens when the kid was born, never married, one parent in jail or on probation or just MIA, the other parent un or underemployed, sometimes with substance abuse issues. Zero parenting skills, emotionally immature. It is a TERRIBLE life to give to an innocent kid who will be broken by it. We need to stop these kids having kids.

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This is the problem:

After every arrest, Sergeant Milburn looks up the suspect’s prior contact with the criminal-justice system. He estimates that in at least half of the unit’s juvenile cases, the suspect has had previous interactions with the police as a victim—of physical or sexual abuse, for example, or of neglect by a parent or family member. Milburn searched the 12-year-old’s history, and sure enough: He’d allegedly been physically abused at 6 years old. “Most of these kids don’t stand a chance,” Milburn told me. “I can’t tell you how many times we notify parents and they say, ‘I don’t care,’ or ‘Just send his ass to Cheltenham’ ”—the county’s juvenile detention center. “That happens more times than not.”

Absolute BS.

yep. And releasing the offenders back to parents like this is an exercise in futility. We need juvenile facilities which are high structure/high nurture which are essentially going to "re-parent" these kids. But the only thing that stands a chance is removing them from the environment in which they live.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem:

After every arrest, Sergeant Milburn looks up the suspect’s prior contact with the criminal-justice system. He estimates that in at least half of the unit’s juvenile cases, the suspect has had previous interactions with the police as a victim—of physical or sexual abuse, for example, or of neglect by a parent or family member. Milburn searched the 12-year-old’s history, and sure enough: He’d allegedly been physically abused at 6 years old. “Most of these kids don’t stand a chance,” Milburn told me. “I can’t tell you how many times we notify parents and they say, ‘I don’t care,’ or ‘Just send his ass to Cheltenham’ ”—the county’s juvenile detention center. “That happens more times than not.”

Absolute BS.

What do we do then?

And it just repeats because the kid who was abused at 6 and caught carjacking at 12 winds up fathering multiple kids at 16/17/18. Those kids grow up with either no father (actually preferable in this case) or a father who is in and out of jail and a terrible influence/likely abusive when he is around. And then that kid winds up on the same path.

One argument in favor of putting these kids in jail is that then they don't become parents. I'm not kidding. I've met a lot of kids in DCPS who's parents were teens when the kid was born, never married, one parent in jail or on probation or just MIA, the other parent un or underemployed, sometimes with substance abuse issues. Zero parenting skills, emotionally immature. It is a TERRIBLE life to give to an innocent kid who will be broken by it. We need to stop these kids having kids.

Fully agree. Lock up the teen boys and encourage the girls to consider long-term slow-release contraceptives. That is the nest way to break the cycle at least for the next generation.

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Carjacking should be treated the same way as stealing a horse was in the old west. Once caught they were put on trial and if found guilty hung. that would cut down on the problem. But too much of a common sense solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats voted for this insanity. Why???

The democrats are absolutely, brain dead if they still think the majority of their usual constituents want a) criminals *not* arrested, prosecuted, and punished, and b) criminals who are not legal residents *not* kicked out of the country.

I am really so tired of hearing all these excuses. Treat adults as adults. Treat juvenile crime seriously, it’s not going to get better with age, if you don’t do anything. Arrest, prosecute every crime, involve ICE where it makes sense (that would be more often than not). As far as building rapport with the “growing local immigrant” population - guess what, they also don’t want the criminals in their communities!

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Anonymous wrote:Violent criminals need to be treated as Adults. The age needs to be lowered to 14. Those kids will not amount to anything good. Sad, but true.

Why would we treat children as adults? this doesn't make sense to me and never has. If there needs to be more stringent consequences for violent juvenile crimes, that's fine (and I do agree we shouldn't be letting offenders off). But juveniles are not adults and should not be "treated as adults." That's messed up.

Do adult crimes, get adult time.

Define "adult crime"- this is silly. Obviously a juvenile can commit any type of crime. If these crimes are not sufficiently covered under the juvenile penile system, that system needs to be reformed. It simply doesn't make sense to say a 16 year old is an adult. A 16 year old is not an adult. Should a 16 year old do "time" for car jacking? Sure. But that doesn't make him/her an adult.

Kids crimes: Shoplifting candy. Smashing mailboxes. Doing donuts in the parking lot.

Adult crimes: sticking a gun in your face and driving off with your car.

+1 I don’t want kids sentenced to years in prison for shoplifting or getting in a fist fight at school but come on. Armed carjacking? That’s an adult crime and they need adult prison sentences.

Agree. At the VERY least they should be locked away from society on the very first offense until the government considers them to be a full adult and able to think like an adult would. Which in DC is apparently 26 years old.

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Anonymous wrote:

This is the problem:

After every arrest, Sergeant Milburn looks up the suspect’s prior contact with the criminal-justice system. He estimates that in at least half of the unit’s juvenile cases, the suspect has had previous interactions with the police as a victim—of physical or sexual abuse, for example, or of neglect by a parent or family member. Milburn searched the 12-year-old’s history, and sure enough: He’d allegedly been physically abused at 6 years old. “Most of these kids don’t stand a chance,” Milburn told me. “I can’t tell you how many times we notify parents and they say, ‘I don’t care,’ or ‘Just send his ass to Cheltenham’ ”—the county’s juvenile detention center. “That happens more times than not.”

Absolute BS.

yep. And releasing the offenders back to parents like this is an exercise in futility. We need juvenile facilities which are high structure/high nurture which are essentially going to "re-parent" these kids. But the only thing that stands a chance is removing them from the environment in which they live.

Yes, this. Some sort of highly regulated environment that gives these kids a fighting chance and keeps society safe from them during this attempt at rehabilitation.

We're not talking about petty fights and shoplifting. It's sickening that these criminals experience no consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the problem:

After every arrest, Sergeant Milburn looks up the suspect’s prior contact with the criminal-justice system. He estimates that in at least half of the unit’s juvenile cases, the suspect has had previous interactions with the police as a victim—of physical or sexual abuse, for example, or of neglect by a parent or family member. Milburn searched the 12-year-old’s history, and sure enough: He’d allegedly been physically abused at 6 years old. “Most of these kids don’t stand a chance,” Milburn told me. “I can’t tell you how many times we notify parents and they say, ‘I don’t care,’ or ‘Just send his ass to Cheltenham’ ”—the county’s juvenile detention center. “That happens more times than not.”

Absolute BS.

What do we do then?

And it just repeats because the kid who was abused at 6 and caught carjacking at 12 winds up fathering multiple kids at 16/17/18. Those kids grow up with either no father (actually preferable in this case) or a father who is in and out of jail and a terrible influence/likely abusive when he is around. And then that kid winds up on the same path.

One argument in favor of putting these kids in jail is that then they don't become parents. I'm not kidding. I've met a lot of kids in DCPS who's parents were teens when the kid was born, never married, one parent in jail or on probation or just MIA, the other parent un or underemployed, sometimes with substance abuse issues. Zero parenting skills, emotionally immature. It is a TERRIBLE life to give to an innocent kid who will be broken by it. We need to stop these kids having kids.

Completely agree. It’s the only way to stop the cycle. So many people talk about stopping generational poverty and trauma. Let them put their money where their mouth is.

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Anonymous wrote:And you wonder why car insurance is out of control? My insurance has gone up almost 100% in 5-6 years. No, it's not just because of the weather and supply chain issues. They just don't want to admit it is because of Dems' dimwitted criminal justice policies.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats voted for this insanity. Why???

Good question.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats voted for this insanity. Why???

Good question.

For Trump no. Wait till the snap benefits disappear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Democrats voted for this insanity. Why???

Good question.

For Trump no. Wait till the snap benefits disappear.

SNAP isn’t going anywhere.

Should taxpayers promote Pepsi garbage products to poor people?

[Anonymous]

Even in Democratic heavy NYC they eventually capitulated and elected a Republican to make the city safe again. That will not happen in DC unfortunately because DC Democrats are a different breed. In DC being a Democrat is more an identity than a political party. That’s why federalization is the only way we get out of this death spiral.