APS standards grading

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I'm not the pp but I agree with them. And I have an elementary kid. It really isn't that deep. If your child is getting mostly 2s, they are fine. It may not be perfect, large systems usually aren't. And it is still ok. The CKLA and 95 phonics workbooks do come home eventually. We've already seen one this year. if you are so worried to see them, they will come. The tests they take on their ipad, you get the scores in parentvue. And I would be shocked if you aren't getting at least a few papers home each week, we certainly do. And you have conferences in the fall. If you have specific concerns, raise them and ask for another conference which is always available but I am just unclear on what could be so anxiety producing about 2nd, 3rd etc grade. The kids are already taking crazy amount of tests, results of which you are getting at beginning, middle, and end of year that give you a pretty good view of math and reading.

What is it you're wanting to see? Look for these things: is your child's reading progressing over time? Are they understanding the beginning, middle, and end of a story? Are they starting to write more complex sentences? These are things that are pretty easy to see by reading with your child, observing what they are reading, having them write a letter to grandma, etc etc. I'm just unclear what you are hoping to get from the report card in these early grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I still have a kid in elementary school. She gets lots of papers sent home including all her tests which are on paper and her writing notebooks which she brings home because sometimes she needs to finish work at home. Ask your teacher to see more of the work. That’s your right.

I've asked and teachers have declined. They especially don't send home math grades. Those tests are all online so we don't see them. I met with the language arts teacher at the fall conference so got to see some writing examples for the fall. The spring conference will be with the math teacher so I'll see some math grades in Feb/March, but won't get any more feedback on language arts outside of these stupid report cards.

#theAPSway

What is it you want to do with all these grades and work? How would it change your behavior? Do you have a genuine concern that your child has dyslexia, dysgraphia or something that you are trying to suss out? If so, ask to have another conversation. The APS way is actually typically to be very accommodating to parent requests (I'm a parent, not a teacher), even the many requests that are probably way out of bounds. I'm unclear on why you want so much feedback/what you would do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I'm not the pp but I agree with them. And I have an elementary kid. It really isn't that deep. If your child is getting mostly 2s, they are fine. It may not be perfect, large systems usually aren't. And it is still ok. The CKLA and 95 phonics workbooks do come home eventually. We've already seen one this year. if you are so worried to see them, they will come. The tests they take on their ipad, you get the scores in parentvue. And I would be shocked if you aren't getting at least a few papers home each week, we certainly do. And you have conferences in the fall. If you have specific concerns, raise them and ask for another conference which is always available but I am just unclear on what could be so anxiety producing about 2nd, 3rd etc grade. The kids are already taking crazy amount of tests, results of which you are getting at beginning, middle, and end of year that give you a pretty good view of math and reading.

What is it you're wanting to see? Look for these things: is your child's reading progressing over time? Are they understanding the beginning, middle, and end of a story? Are they starting to write more complex sentences? These are things that are pretty easy to see by reading with your child, observing what they are reading, having them write a letter to grandma, etc etc. I'm just unclear what you are hoping to get from the report card in these early grades.

The scores are not in ParentVue. Nope. And the workbooks don't come home until June. Very very little information comes home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I still have a kid in elementary school. She gets lots of papers sent home including all her tests which are on paper and her writing notebooks which she brings home because sometimes she needs to finish work at home. Ask your teacher to see more of the work. That’s your right.

I've asked and teachers have declined. They especially don't send home math grades. Those tests are all online so we don't see them. I met with the language arts teacher at the fall conference so got to see some writing examples for the fall. The spring conference will be with the math teacher so I'll see some math grades in Feb/March, but won't get any more feedback on language arts outside of these stupid report cards.

#theAPSway

What is it you want to do with all these grades and work? How would it change your behavior? Do you have a genuine concern that your child has dyslexia, dysgraphia or something that you are trying to suss out? If so, ask to have another conversation. The APS way is actually typically to be very accommodating to parent requests (I'm a parent, not a teacher), even the many requests that are probably way out of bounds. I'm unclear on why you want so much feedback/what you would do with it.

I just like to keep an eye on how they're doing. For instance, my oldest is a really good math student but occasionally struggles with topics. When tests used to come home, I could see that she was struggling with a topic, e.g., elapsed time, and then could work on that skill at home. But now I don't see test scores or worksheets, as every thing is online and there is no digital gradebook. So I have no idea if she isn't getting a particular topic so I can't reinforce if there are gaps.

[Anonymous]

How common is it for elementary students to be taking all their tests online? Not happening in my APS elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I still have a kid in elementary school. She gets lots of papers sent home including all her tests which are on paper and her writing notebooks which she brings home because sometimes she needs to finish work at home. Ask your teacher to see more of the work. That’s your right.

I've asked and teachers have declined. They especially don't send home math grades. Those tests are all online so we don't see them. I met with the language arts teacher at the fall conference so got to see some writing examples for the fall. The spring conference will be with the math teacher so I'll see some math grades in Feb/March, but won't get any more feedback on language arts outside of these stupid report cards.

#theAPSway

What is it you want to do with all these grades and work? How would it change your behavior? Do you have a genuine concern that your child has dyslexia, dysgraphia or something that you are trying to suss out? If so, ask to have another conversation. The APS way is actually typically to be very accommodating to parent requests (I'm a parent, not a teacher), even the many requests that are probably way out of bounds. I'm unclear on why you want so much feedback/what you would do with it.

Not that PP, and I have an older kid in addition to one in ES. The frustration is that we had a perfectly adequate, clear system for reporting how kids were doing in school (report cards with A, B, C, etc), and this was scraped and replaced with a convoluted, non-sensical system. No, it’s not the end of the world, but it’s annoying.

And as others have said, my child brings home very little completed work. I never see her graded tests. No, the scores are not in parentvue for ES. She will tell me how she did on tests— otherwise, I would never know. What is the point of keeping all this information from parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I still have a kid in elementary school. She gets lots of papers sent home including all her tests which are on paper and her writing notebooks which she brings home because sometimes she needs to finish work at home. Ask your teacher to see more of the work. That’s your right.

I've asked and teachers have declined. They especially don't send home math grades. Those tests are all online so we don't see them. I met with the language arts teacher at the fall conference so got to see some writing examples for the fall. The spring conference will be with the math teacher so I'll see some math grades in Feb/March, but won't get any more feedback on language arts outside of these stupid report cards.

#theAPSway

What is it you want to do with all these grades and work? How would it change your behavior? Do you have a genuine concern that your child has dyslexia, dysgraphia or something that you are trying to suss out? If so, ask to have another conversation. The APS way is actually typically to be very accommodating to parent requests (I'm a parent, not a teacher), even the many requests that are probably way out of bounds. I'm unclear on why you want so much feedback/what you would do with it.

I just like to keep an eye on how they're doing. For instance, my oldest is a really good math student but occasionally struggles with topics. When tests used to come home, I could see that she was struggling with a topic, e.g., elapsed time, and then could work on that skill at home. But now I don't see test scores or worksheets, as every thing is online and there is no digital gradebook. So I have no idea if she isn't getting a particular topic so I can't reinforce if there are gaps.

If you have a really good math student have confidence that if she didn’t get the skill, they will review it at various points (because they do) and she will get it. The level of insight and control you want to have is not realistic.

Some of you have a lot of time on your hands. I feel bad for the teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I still have a kid in elementary school. She gets lots of papers sent home including all her tests which are on paper and her writing notebooks which she brings home because sometimes she needs to finish work at home. Ask your teacher to see more of the work. That’s your right.

I've asked and teachers have declined. They especially don't send home math grades. Those tests are all online so we don't see them. I met with the language arts teacher at the fall conference so got to see some writing examples for the fall. The spring conference will be with the math teacher so I'll see some math grades in Feb/March, but won't get any more feedback on language arts outside of these stupid report cards.

#theAPSway

What is it you want to do with all these grades and work? How would it change your behavior? Do you have a genuine concern that your child has dyslexia, dysgraphia or something that you are trying to suss out? If so, ask to have another conversation. The APS way is actually typically to be very accommodating to parent requests (I'm a parent, not a teacher), even the many requests that are probably way out of bounds. I'm unclear on why you want so much feedback/what you would do with it.

Not that PP, and I have an older kid in addition to one in ES. The frustration is that we had a perfectly adequate, clear system for reporting how kids were doing in school (report cards with A, B, C, etc), and this was scraped and replaced with a convoluted, non-sensical system. No, it’s not the end of the world, but it’s annoying.

And as others have said, my child brings home very little completed work. I never see her graded tests. No, the scores are not in parentvue for ES. She will tell me how she did on tests— otherwise, I would never know. What is the point of keeping all this information from parents?

My older one went through elementary with the letter grades and I found it needlessly stressful for kids that age. I prefer and agree with no grades until middle school. Just a heads up that not everyone agrees with you.

[Anonymous]

They now take some kind of math and reading inventory 3x a year right? And you can see the questions they missed right? (Please correct me if I’m wrong but think this is right.)

Why is this information not enough for you. This is a lot more objective than what your individual teacher decided to test on or how they decided to test. There is huge variation on how teachers test and grade which is normal and you will see as they go through middle and high school.

[Anonymous]

So my 2nd grader has all 2s, and that is okay? But if she has a 1 she’s failing??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So my 2nd grader has all 2s, and that is okay? But if she has a 1 she’s failing??

And there aren’t any comments at all on the report card?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you all have only children or first kids?

Who cares. It’s not that deep. Look at the papers they bring home every week. Monitor standardized test screeners and SOLs. And just relax until middle school.

You have to realize the changes since your kids were in elementary. Now we don't get papers sent home. Tests are on the iPad so we never see scores. (My student isn't allowed to bring her iPad home, even if I wanted to poke around and try to find scores.) For language arts, writing is done in a notebook that stays at school and CKLA and 95Phonics are done in workbooks that stay at school. Other work is submitted on the iPad. At most my student brings home a couple of worksheets for social studies or science, but even those are intermittent. Work isn't sent home like it used to be.

I still have a kid in elementary school. She gets lots of papers sent home including all her tests which are on paper and her writing notebooks which she brings home because sometimes she needs to finish work at home. Ask your teacher to see more of the work. That’s your right.

I've asked and teachers have declined. They especially don't send home math grades. Those tests are all online so we don't see them. I met with the language arts teacher at the fall conference so got to see some writing examples for the fall. The spring conference will be with the math teacher so I'll see some math grades in Feb/March, but won't get any more feedback on language arts outside of these stupid report cards.

#theAPSway

What is it you want to do with all these grades and work? How would it change your behavior? Do you have a genuine concern that your child has dyslexia, dysgraphia or something that you are trying to suss out? If so, ask to have another conversation. The APS way is actually typically to be very accommodating to parent requests (I'm a parent, not a teacher), even the many requests that are probably way out of bounds. I'm unclear on why you want so much feedback/what you would do with it.

I just like to keep an eye on how they're doing. For instance, my oldest is a really good math student but occasionally struggles with topics. When tests used to come home, I could see that she was struggling with a topic, e.g., elapsed time, and then could work on that skill at home. But now I don't see test scores or worksheets, as every thing is online and there is no digital gradebook. So I have no idea if she isn't getting a particular topic so I can't reinforce if there are gaps.

If you have a really good math student have confidence that if she didn’t get the skill, they will review it at various points (because they do) and she will get it. The level of insight and control you want to have is not realistic.

Some of you have a lot of time on your hands. I feel bad for the teachers.

I mean, I eventually found out she didn't understand elapsed time because she got it wrong on the SOL and I showed her a problem as summer review and she had no idea how to do it. So no, not all gaps are filled. I would have preferred to fill the gap when she struggled during the school year, but unit test scores aren't shared with parents.

Expecting to see graded unit tests is not unreasonable. That was standard before covid and everything moving online. It's really strange, IMO, that schools are hoarding this information while moving to less transparent report cards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How common is it for elementary students to be taking all their tests online? Not happening in my APS elementary school.

I had kids at two different APS elementary schools and both have taken all tests online since returning from covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They now take some kind of math and reading inventory 3x a year right? And you can see the questions they missed right? (Please correct me if I’m wrong but think this is right.)

Why is this information not enough for you. This is a lot more objective than what your individual teacher decided to test on or how they decided to test. There is huge variation on how teachers test and grade which is normal and you will see as they go through middle and high school.

The inventories don't match up to the subject that have been taught so you don't know if a student missed a problem because it hasn't been taught yet or because they didn't understand the material. It takes a lot of sleuthing to get specific data from them.

Unit tests should match up to the grade level standards. They show if a student understands the material that was actually taught. So if the unit test was on fractions and the student did poorly, then you know you should work on fractions at home. Even if they are doing great on long division and decimals so their math inventory score is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As always, the useful information is in the comments and parent teacher conferences.

Ha! My older kids comments were copied and pasted! They had updated one mention of her name/pronouns but not the second one— “Larla is above average. Mario has been encouraged to challenge himself with extension activities”!