Was Walz a mistake?

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Shapiro would not have made the difference. It was a decisive victory. I am a democrat woman and a fed who has been crying all morning and feel like this will irrevocably damage some of my familial relationships but truly this is as close to a mandate as one gets. The country wants him. They will have to live with him. Happy to be in a blue bubble. Deeply worried about my job. Thinking the D's need to find a way to make people hear that their message is not all about DEIA crap and more about making life better for the average american.
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Anonymous wrote:Obviously.

Shapiro would have campaigned better but the Dems miscalculated what would resonate or alienate by assuming more voters would hate the popular governor from a swing state because he’s Jewish.

Next time let’s pick dynamic candidates from swing states.


Like the Republican ticket had?
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Anonymous wrote:No. This was a choice between good and evil. All other considerations were secondary.

I'm deeply ashamed of my country today.


Keep calling other Americans “evil” and talking about how ashamed you are of their right to vote.

That’s been a winning strategy! /s


This is literally is what Trump and his supporters do, so it apparently is a winning strategy.


Apparently, insulting people and threatening to use the military against them sits well with voters.

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Anonymous wrote:It was Kamala. Kamala was the wrong pick. Michelle Obama could’ve won if she’d ran. Kamala lacks depth and personality.


I doubt Michelle would have won. She only talks about race and how everyone else is so bad that is not black or democrat. You don't win elections like that.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump didn’t win because of Vance and Harris didn’t lose because of Walz.


I absolutely think Vance helped steer independents to Trump.

I don’t. I think picking Vance was net neutral.


Were you one of the ones thinking Kamala would win too?

No. Early on, I didn’t really have a feeling one way or another. Then I was sure Trump would beat Biden. Then I thought maybe Kamala had a chance, but definitely didn’t feel confident. Then I became very concerned that Trump would win. I allowed myself a tiny bit of optimism in the final days, but am not shocked by Trump’s victory. I will admit that I’m surprised he won by the margin he did, though. I thought the popular vote would be closer. That’s the surprising part to me.
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Anonymous wrote:Shapiro would not have made the difference. It was a decisive victory. I am a democrat woman and a fed who has been crying all morning and feel like this will irrevocably damage some of my familial relationships but truly this is as close to a mandate as one gets. The country wants him. They will have to live with him. Happy to be in a blue bubble. Deeply worried about my job. Thinking the D's need to find a way to make people hear that their message is not all about DEIA crap and more about making life better for the average american.


Try about DEI crap. Kamala was a DEI pick and dems need to understand that real problems are always going to me more important than diversity crap.
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala and Tim weren't ideal candidates but against Donald and JD, they were clearly better options. Dems lost because of their policies not because of their candidates.



Agree. The majority of the country is moderate and want pragmatic common-sense solutions to the pocketbook issues they care about. They were willing to go farther right to get the latter but were not willing to go farther left.
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Walz made no difference, either good or bad. Nobody votes for VP.
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Anonymous wrote:It was Kamala. Kamala was the wrong pick. Michelle Obama could’ve won if she’d ran. Kamala lacks depth and personality.


I doubt Michelle would have won. She only talks about race and how everyone else is so bad that is not black or democrat. You don't win elections like that.


I can’t think of anyone else likeable enough. It would fall to her. Race or not. Can you name someone else who could make it work to get to the ticket? I’m thinking hard.
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Anonymous wrote:Kamala and Tim weren't ideal candidates but against Donald and JD, they were clearly better options. Dems lost because of their policies not because of their candidates.



Agree. The majority of the country is moderate and want pragmatic common-sense solutions to the pocketbook issues they care about. They were willing to go farther right to get the latter but were not willing to go farther left.


except all of the "leftist" initiatives on the ballot nationwide passed. (the ones in Florida had majorities but not their stupid 60%) - the issue isn't the policies. Most poeple, ie over 60% support

-sensible gun legislation
-sensible immigration reform
-Roe
- healthcare
- minimum wage

I could go on, but the GOP did an expert job of handing slogan far left policies on to the whole party, when in fact, the Dem party leadership is moderate/liberal, not progressive. So instead, we will have a christian nationalist authoritarian regime.
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Anonymous wrote:Folks are tired of the elites. Enough of Obamas, Clintons, Hollywood and Fake News. It’s over.


Trump , a celebrity who has cameos in several Hollywood movies, is the king of fake news.


But he doesn't lecture voters the way MSNBC, the Obamas, HRC, and The View do (just some examples). And I voted for Harris and admire the Obamas.

Trump told his voters he didn’t care if they were dying, just get to the polls. He told them as long as they voted for him, they’d never have to vote again. He pretended to be someone saying Harry, get your fat ass out of the sofa, you’re voting for Trump today. He said it would be Jews’ faults if he lost. Let’s not pretend he showed voters any respect.
Anonymous
Big winner here is shapiro. He gets to extend his governorship and set up for 2028. Sharp.

I guess we never hear from Walz again.
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Anonymous wrote:Walz made no difference, either good or bad. Nobody votes for VP.


Pence was an inspired VP pick. Vance is a terrible one and so was Waltz. Shapiro would have been an inspired pick.
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Yes
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Anonymous wrote:It was Kamala. Kamala was the wrong pick. Michelle Obama could’ve won if she’d ran. Kamala lacks depth and personality.


This!! I’ve been screaming this since August. The problem was Kamala, she wasn’t ready and was too nervous and flip flopped too much. And Walz was just….there? That’s all I can say about him.

If we had a Michele Obama and Pete Buttigieg ticket, they would’ve easily won imo.
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