Walls Counselor sharing students' college apps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While there is something wrong about that culture ("I'm not sharing, so you can't get ideas & compete"), it's not the counselor's call to decide otherwise and share such personal information. They can speak in general to where others apply ED, whatever, but not with names attached. And they sure should help foster a sense of mutual trust and "we're in this together" values. But before you accuse anyone, also consider the possibility that this information was shared among students, and someone simply blamed the counselor.

FWIW, on the substance: I do think all students will be better off if we help them see how everyone can benefit from a culture of information sharing in schools. And we parents can have those conversations, in general, at home to support them in getting to that point. Then again, I also appreciate oversharing turning into some pressure fest. Very difficult all of this, takes a lot of finesse on the part of the counselor. And while I appreciate the idea of a counselor getting to know their students as they approach that point in time over the course of 4 years, maybe that (Walls) model is just no longer the best.

Except that we know this "possibility" to be untrue. My senior at Walls saw the list, with students' names, of where people were applying early, hanging on the counselor's office wall in full view of anyone who walked in.

Did you contact administration?

Nope. As others have mentioned in this thread, seniors desperately need the counselor for their applications right now, so anything that would rock the boat seems unwise.

Perhaps once application season is over, I will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While there is something wrong about that culture ("I'm not sharing, so you can't get ideas & compete"), it's not the counselor's call to decide otherwise and share such personal information. They can speak in general to where others apply ED, whatever, but not with names attached. And they sure should help foster a sense of mutual trust and "we're in this together" values. But before you accuse anyone, also consider the possibility that this information was shared among students, and someone simply blamed the counselor.

FWIW, on the substance: I do think all students will be better off if we help them see how everyone can benefit from a culture of information sharing in schools. And we parents can have those conversations, in general, at home to support them in getting to that point. Then again, I also appreciate oversharing turning into some pressure fest. Very difficult all of this, takes a lot of finesse on the part of the counselor. And while I appreciate the idea of a counselor getting to know their students as they approach that point in time over the course of 4 years, maybe that (Walls) model is just no longer the best.

Except that we know this "possibility" to be untrue. My senior at Walls saw the list, with students' names, of where people were applying early, hanging on the counselor's office wall in full view of anyone who walked in.

+1

Did you contact administration?

Nope. As others have mentioned in this thread, seniors desperately need the counselor for their applications right now, so anything that would rock the boat seems unwise.

Perhaps once application season is over, I will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

Oh please - get a grip. You would really want to ruin someone's livelihood over this? Get a grip. No wonder Trump won - a reaction to and commentary on the excessive sensitivities of the left.

[Anonymous]

I'm curious has this happened with the previous classes. You don't know if this is the norm unless you ask. Couldn't make the coffee chat or would have asked...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

Oh please - get a grip. You would really want to ruin someone's livelihood over this? Get a grip. No wonder Trump won - a reaction to and commentary on the excessive sensitivities of the left.

Do you think she is likely to be good at her job if she can't get that basic responsibility right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While there is something wrong about that culture ("I'm not sharing, so you can't get ideas & compete"), it's not the counselor's call to decide otherwise and share such personal information. They can speak in general to where others apply ED, whatever, but not with names attached. And they sure should help foster a sense of mutual trust and "we're in this together" values. But before you accuse anyone, also consider the possibility that this information was shared among students, and someone simply blamed the counselor.

FWIW, on the substance: I do think all students will be better off if we help them see how everyone can benefit from a culture of information sharing in schools. And we parents can have those conversations, in general, at home to support them in getting to that point. Then again, I also appreciate oversharing turning into some pressure fest. Very difficult all of this, takes a lot of finesse on the part of the counselor. And while I appreciate the idea of a counselor getting to know their students as they approach that point in time over the course of 4 years, maybe that (Walls) model is just no longer the best.

Except that we know this "possibility" to be untrue. My senior at Walls saw the list, with students' names, of where people were applying early, hanging on the counselor's office wall in full view of anyone who walked in.

Did you contact administration?

Nope. As others have mentioned in this thread, seniors desperately need the counselor for their applications right now, so anything that would rock the boat seems unwise.

Perhaps once application season is over, I will.

You think that she wouldn’t continue to be professional and would hold it against the kid and not submit forms? That’s ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

Oh please - get a grip. You would really want to ruin someone's livelihood over this? Get a grip. No wonder Trump won - a reaction to and commentary on the excessive sensitivities of the left.

Do you think she is likely to be good at her job if she can't get that basic responsibility right?

I know (not think) this counselor is a dynamo (energetic and enthusiastic) - and much respected and liked. So yeah - good at the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While there is something wrong about that culture ("I'm not sharing, so you can't get ideas & compete"), it's not the counselor's call to decide otherwise and share such personal information. They can speak in general to where others apply ED, whatever, but not with names attached. And they sure should help foster a sense of mutual trust and "we're in this together" values. But before you accuse anyone, also consider the possibility that this information was shared among students, and someone simply blamed the counselor.

FWIW, on the substance: I do think all students will be better off if we help them see how everyone can benefit from a culture of information sharing in schools. And we parents can have those conversations, in general, at home to support them in getting to that point. Then again, I also appreciate oversharing turning into some pressure fest. Very difficult all of this, takes a lot of finesse on the part of the counselor. And while I appreciate the idea of a counselor getting to know their students as they approach that point in time over the course of 4 years, maybe that (Walls) model is just no longer the best.

Except that we know this "possibility" to be untrue. My senior at Walls saw the list, with students' names, of where people were applying early, hanging on the counselor's office wall in full view of anyone who walked in.

Did you contact administration?

Nope. As others have mentioned in this thread, seniors desperately need the counselor for their applications right now, so anything that would rock the boat seems unwise.

Perhaps once application season is over, I will.

You think that she wouldn’t continue to be professional and would hold it against the kid and not submit forms? That’s ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is your jumping to the conclusion that she'd hold it against the kid.
The thing I was ACTUALLY worried about is that she might get suspended or otherwise bogged down with administrative "fixes" that would take her away from the 150+ kids she needs to help get through application season.
For the record, my kid has filed early applications and so doesn't need her just now. It's not about my kid.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I misspoke--I meant "What's ridiculous is your jumping to the conclusion that I THINK she'd hold it against the kid."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

Oh please - get a grip. You would really want to ruin someone's livelihood over this? Get a grip. No wonder Trump won - a reaction to and commentary on the excessive sensitivities of the left.

Do you think she is likely to be good at her job if she can't get that basic responsibility right?

I know (not think) this counselor is a dynamo (energetic and enthusiastic) - and much respected and liked. So yeah - good at the job.

I agree. We've had a good experience with her, including when my DD was struggling in 9th grade.

[Anonymous]

It's good to hear that she is a good counselor overall. She still should not be treating students' application choices as public information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

Oh please - get a grip. You would really want to ruin someone's livelihood over this? Get a grip. No wonder Trump won - a reaction to and commentary on the excessive sensitivities of the left.

Not to mention that someone who thinks this is a fireable offense have no idea how hard it is to get fired in DCPS. And even if it were a fireable offense, it takes DCPS months to bring on board a replacement. Firing a good counselor over this would end up harming the entire senior class who would suddenly be left without a counselor at the most critical time in their academic career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While there is something wrong about that culture ("I'm not sharing, so you can't get ideas & compete"), it's not the counselor's call to decide otherwise and share such personal information. They can speak in general to where others apply ED, whatever, but not with names attached. And they sure should help foster a sense of mutual trust and "we're in this together" values. But before you accuse anyone, also consider the possibility that this information was shared among students, and someone simply blamed the counselor.

FWIW, on the substance: I do think all students will be better off if we help them see how everyone can benefit from a culture of information sharing in schools. And we parents can have those conversations, in general, at home to support them in getting to that point. Then again, I also appreciate oversharing turning into some pressure fest. Very difficult all of this, takes a lot of finesse on the part of the counselor. And while I appreciate the idea of a counselor getting to know their students as they approach that point in time over the course of 4 years, maybe that (Walls) model is just no longer the best.

Except that we know this "possibility" to be untrue. My senior at Walls saw the list, with students' names, of where people were applying early, hanging on the counselor's office wall in full view of anyone who walked in.

Did you contact administration?

Nope. As others have mentioned in this thread, seniors desperately need the counselor for their applications right now, so anything that would rock the boat seems unwise.

Perhaps once application season is over, I will.

You think that she wouldn’t continue to be professional and would hold it against the kid and not submit forms? That’s ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is your jumping to the conclusion that she'd hold it against the kid.
The thing I was ACTUALLY worried about is that she might get suspended or otherwise bogged down with administrative "fixes" that would take her away from the 150+ kids she needs to help get through application season.
For the record, my kid has filed early applications and so doesn't need her just now. It's not about my kid.

Considering you used the phrase ‘desperately need their counselor’ no I don’t think the conclusion is ridiculous. You are on this site saying your kid is upset but you aren’t willing to say anything? Maybe it was an accident and someone just needs to let the counselor know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Firing offense for sure. Not just bad judgement. Hope this is handled swiftly.

Agreed

Oh please - get a grip. You would really want to ruin someone's livelihood over this? Get a grip. No wonder Trump won - a reaction to and commentary on the excessive sensitivities of the left.

Not to mention that someone who thinks this is a fireable offense have no idea how hard it is to get fired in DCPS. And even if it were a fireable offense, it takes DCPS months to bring on board a replacement. Firing a good counselor over this would end up harming the entire senior class who would suddenly be left without a counselor at the most critical time in their academic career.

Yes it's DCPS, but even there, breaking federal law is a way to get fired. -DP