How hard is UNC out of state?

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went there OOS as well and I didn’t notice any intellectual difference between OOS and in state kids. The most successful guy I know from my college days, not a billionaire but close to it, was a farm boy from rural NC.
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went there OOS as well and I didn’t notice any intellectual difference between OOS and in state kids. The most successful guy I know from my college days, not a billionaire but close to it, was a farm boy from rural NC.


I think it is apples and oranges. On the one hand, give these kids credit for excelling in an environment that is, well it is not DC Urban moms-level.
On the other hand, when you have a kid taking BC Calc and AP Lit and of course, as we've established here AP Foreign Language, WHAP and APUSH, you've got that kid and also working really hard and getting a high test score...and then you have someone who, for whatever reason has only made it through Algebra II. You can understand some frustration. And Yes, that happens. But back again, is it the kids fault that his school wasn't set up to push him through Multivariable calculus? there are two ways to look at it.
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went to Purdue. OOS admit. The OOS kids had higher states and came from wealthy suburbs, vs. literal Indiana farm kids in-state. Smarter? No, but the OOS students were better academically prepared by FAR.
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went there OOS as well and I didn’t notice any intellectual difference between OOS and in state kids. The most successful guy I know from my college days, not a billionaire but close to it, was a farm boy from rural NC.


I think it is apples and oranges. On the one hand, give these kids credit for excelling in an environment that is, well it is not DC Urban moms-level.
On the other hand, when you have a kid taking BC Calc and AP Lit and of course, as we've established here AP Foreign Language, WHAP and APUSH, you've got that kid and also working really hard and getting a high test score...and then you have someone who, for whatever reason has only made it through Algebra II. You can understand some frustration. And Yes, that happens. But back again, is it the kids fault that his school wasn't set up to push him through Multivariable calculus? there are two ways to look at it.


What makes you think rural schools don’t have APs? Or that urban schools don’t have kids who only graduate with Algebra II? I just don’t get the urban schools are always smarter than rural or suburbs mindset. It is totally ignorant and so inside the Beltway (probably to make people feel better about their choices).
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went to Purdue. OOS admit. The OOS kids had higher states and came from wealthy suburbs, vs. literal Indiana farm kids in-state. Smarter? No, but the OOS students were better academically prepared by FAR.


Great, I guess but that’s not Carolina. That’s Purdue.
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went there OOS as well and I didn’t notice any intellectual difference between OOS and in state kids. The most successful guy I know from my college days, not a billionaire but close to it, was a farm boy from rural NC.


I think it is apples and oranges. On the one hand, give these kids credit for excelling in an environment that is, well it is not DC Urban moms-level.
On the other hand, when you have a kid taking BC Calc and AP Lit and of course, as we've established here AP Foreign Language, WHAP and APUSH, you've got that kid and also working really hard and getting a high test score...and then you have someone who, for whatever reason has only made it through Algebra II. You can understand some frustration. And Yes, that happens. But back again, is it the kids fault that his school wasn't set up to push him through Multivariable calculus? there are two ways to look at it.


What makes you think rural schools don’t have APs? Or that urban schools don’t have kids who only graduate with Algebra II? I just don’t get the urban schools are always smarter than rural or suburbs mindset. It is totally ignorant and so inside the Beltway (probably to make people feel better about their choices).



What makes me think? Specific stories from my daughter at UNC. Telling me how she can't believe every one didn't have Calc or even Precalc when they got to UNC. There was not one word in my post that said they weren't as smart. but it is a fact that some - not all- rural schools do not have the course selection that the cities and privates do.
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


They're stating the OOS kids are smarter and that NC in-state students are dumb. Impact is don't send your smart kid there to hang with the deplorables, they will not be challenged.


I mean, statistically the OOS kids are going to be tippy top just based on the fact that the UNC system is designed to admit mostly in-state students. It’s not a judgment but a fact. I went to UNC in-state and don’t take it personally!


So you are saying that it would not be ideal to attend a school that would take you?


Huh? What does this question even mean?
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went there OOS as well and I didn’t notice any intellectual difference between OOS and in state kids. The most successful guy I know from my college days, not a billionaire but close to it, was a farm boy from rural NC.


I think it is apples and oranges. On the one hand, give these kids credit for excelling in an environment that is, well it is not DC Urban moms-level.
On the other hand, when you have a kid taking BC Calc and AP Lit and of course, as we've established here AP Foreign Language, WHAP and APUSH, you've got that kid and also working really hard and getting a high test score...and then you have someone who, for whatever reason has only made it through Algebra II. You can understand some frustration. And Yes, that happens. But back again, is it the kids fault that his school wasn't set up to push him through Multivariable calculus? there are two ways to look at it.


What makes you think rural schools don’t have APs? Or that urban schools don’t have kids who only graduate with Algebra II? I just don’t get the urban schools are always smarter than rural or suburbs mindset. It is totally ignorant and so inside the Beltway (probably to make people feel better about their choices).



What makes me think? Specific stories from my daughter at UNC. Telling me how she can't believe every one didn't have Calc or even Precalc when they got to UNC. There was not one word in my post that said they weren't as smart. but it is a fact that some - not all- rural schools do not have the course selection that the cities and privates do.


So you didn’t go there. And you’re basing your generalization off of what your daughter said and she knows exactly where “everyone” went to school? And based on all of that rural vs urban/privates (which can also be rural so how does that work?). What snobs (both you and her) and not very Tar Heel of her at all. Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


They're stating the OOS kids are smarter and that NC in-state students are dumb. Impact is don't send your smart kid there to hang with the deplorables, they will not be challenged.


I mean, statistically the OOS kids are going to be tippy top just based on the fact that the UNC system is designed to admit mostly in-state students. It’s not a judgment but a fact. I went to UNC in-state and don’t take it personally!


So you are saying that it would not be ideal to attend a school that would take you?


Huh? What does this question even mean?


Was it you who wrote this?

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went to Purdue. OOS admit. The OOS kids had higher states and came from wealthy suburbs, vs. literal Indiana farm kids in-state. Smarter? No, but the OOS students were better academically prepared by FAR.


Great, I guess but that’s not Carolina. That’s Purdue.


Your point? It's still a state school. And schools with large swaths of rural areas - yes, even NC - do not produce great students. Maybe get out of the DMV more?
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OOS admit to UNC is more difficult than a FCPS admit to UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:OOS admit to UNC is more difficult than a FCPS admit to UVA.


UVA does not cap admittances from FCPS. Someone on our tour asked this exact question.
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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.


Can you expand on that?


NP here, but I have heard this as a negative, too. The OOS kids are tippy top stats kids. The in-state kids are just regular kids, especially from the more rural parts of NC. I know a young adult who went there and he said he was really disappointed with this aspect.


Just because a kid is from a rural part of NC (or anywhere else) doesn't mean they aren't smart or super smart. This is a really bigoted thing to write or imply. It blows my mind that people make an assumption that a kid from instate is dumber than an OOS. Why? Is NC full of dumb kids? No, it isn't. Do you say the same thing about UVA kids who are in state? WITW is wrong with you?

I went there. I didn't hear about it from someone who went there or know someone who went there or once worked with a guy who went there. The instate kids were plenty smart.


I went to Purdue. OOS admit. The OOS kids had higher states and came from wealthy suburbs, vs. literal Indiana farm kids in-state. Smarter? No, but the OOS students were better academically prepared by FAR.


Great, I guess but that’s not Carolina. That’s Purdue.


Your point? It's still a state school. And schools with large swaths of rural areas - yes, even NC - do not produce great students. Maybe get out of the DMV more?


NP- You seem to be the one that needs to get out of the DMV more. You seem like a boorish snob.
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UVA does not cap admittances from FCPS. Someone on our tour asked this exact question.


haha, no one believes that
If not a particular number, there is a long standing pattern.
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Our child is attending on a full merit scholarship from a NOVA public school, but had top stats and strong ECs. Having a great experience at UNC and Chapel Hill is an incredible college town atmosphere!
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